"Whether one is aware of it or not, the inner-worlds are there; they are powerful, and are only ignored on peril of becoming disillusioned with life." -- Gordon Onslow Ford E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Subscribe: electric-dreams-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: electric-dreams-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Subscribe Online: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electric-dreams o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Volume #10 Issue #12 December 2003 ISSN# 1089 4284 o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Download a cover for this issue: http://tinyurl.com/wpbs The Dream Magician, by Noreen Wessling o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o C O N T E N T S ++ Editor's Notes ++ News: ASD Copenhagen 2004 Registration Obituary: Gordon Onslow Ford Research requests, Web updates, and more! ++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange Lucy Gillis ++ Article: I Ching, Tarot, Star+Gate And Dreams Linda Lane Magallón ++ Column: A View from the Bridge Jean Campbell ++ Column: The Waves: 08. Psychedelic Dreaming Nick Cumbo ++ Article: Dream Blog on Dream Dreams Ian Campbell ++ Dream: Child of Darkness Stan Kulikowski II +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++ DREAM SECTION: Dreams from November, 2003 Host: Elizabeth Westlake XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX D E A D L I N E : December 17th deadline for January 2004 submissions XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Post Dreams and Comments on Dreams to: http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple Send Dreaming News and Calendar Events to: Peggy Coats Send Articles and Subscription concerns to: Richard Wilkerson: o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Editor's Notes o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Welcome to the December 2003 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams and dreaming online. If you are new to dreams and dreaming, please join us on dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the resources you need. To join send an e to dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com …or if you are interested in sharing dreams for world peace, please join the World Dreams Peace Bridge http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org Please note in the News section a note on the death of a dream inspired artist, Gordon Onslow Ford. Dreamwork owes much to the Surrealists. The Association for the Study of Dreams has many projects active right now, including a pledge drive, online auctions, preparation and registration for the international conference next year in Copenhagen and regional activity as well. We don't always cover the full range of their activities, so you may want to sign up for their free e-mail newsletter at asd-enews-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Lucy Gillis has brought Electric Dreams readers a wide variety of lucid dream experiences that have delved deeply into the topic. This month she is including an except from Lucid Dream Exchange by Katie, who will be reviewing a lucid dream related book by Olga Kharitidi, the "Master of Lucid Dreams." Is this a true encounter with a master or a tale spun in the long Slavic Winter? Be sure to read the review and find out. How can various divinatory systems be used in conjunction to explore dreams? Linda Lane Magallón, author of _Mutual Dreaming_, asks this question and explores the significance of some of the answers in "I Ching, Tarot, Star+Gate And Dreams." Jean Campbell's "The View from the Bridge"(The World Dreams Peace Bridge) is a wonderful example of how a dream sharing community can impact a nation, a world, a universe. Jean says, "For anyone who doubts that people dream together, and that possibly we are dreaming the world into existence, the collected dreams from this month on the Peace Bridge can be viewed as a study in collective consciousness. Filled with astronomical phenomena, November has been a busy month of dreams, culminating in the DaFuMu dreaming for the people of Istanbul. I have appended a collection of the Istanbul dreams at the end of this article, but at least a brief commentary on other events of the month seems important as well." Nick Cumbo newsletter and column reports on the explorations of the Sea Life community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims to bring together a circle of dreamers from around the globe, collaborating in dreaming adventures, and 'dreaming with and for the earth itself.' This moon, the people at Sea Life, completed a 'Psychedelic Dreaming' project, in which explored the possibility of taking psychedelics within a dream, and if so what effects the experience might have. In Ian Campbell's dream journal records dreams he believe are preparing him for death. What? Yes, and this links into the dreams he had before his parent's death as well. Ian has started a dream blog on this topic and invites you to join him. Read "Dream Blog on Dream Dreams." Stan Kulikowski II returns this month with a Thanksgiving dream, Child of Darkness. Our Global Dreaming News will bring you up to date on the events in dreams and dreaming. Send Peggy news items at web@dreamtree.com Our Dream Section is edited by Elizabeth Westlake. If you have dreams you want published enter them anonymously in the form at http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple Or you can put them in the dream flow directly by subscribing to: dream-flow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com -------------------- For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to stop by one of the many resources: http://www.dreamtree.com http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library Electric Dreams in PDF: (thanks to Nick Cumbo) http://www.dreamofpeace.net/community/electricdreams/ -------------------- Happy Holidays, see you next year! -Richard Wilkerson /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ***************************************************** <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S December 2003 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats, web@dreamtree.com. Visit Global Dreaming News online at http://www.dreamtree.com/ This Month's Features: NEWS -- ASD Copenhagen Conference: Registration Opens -- ASD Regional Meeting 2004 Jan: Atlanta -- Dreamwork in Taiwan – William R. Stimson -- Gordon Onslow Ford Dies -- The Primordial Dream Plane Project -- Healing Quest features work of Patricia Garfield -- New Robert Moss Video Series RESEARCH REQUESTS -- Mutual Dreaming Experiment – Bjo Ashwill -- Survey: How to apply dreamwork? Bitsy Broughton -- Computer Dream Survey – Richard Wilkerson WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES -- ASD updating Links – You can help -- Dream Inspired Art Gallery – ASD 2003 -- Bag O' Dreams – Dream Exploration Software -- Alchera designer Harry Bosma's new site <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< N E W S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>> ASD Copenhagen Conference: Registration Opens Plan to attend ASD'S 2004 CONFERENCE IN COPENHAGEN DENMARK, June 18-22, 2004 and check out the eye-pleasing 2004 conference page and learn about the conference, Copenhagen, and much more. http://asdreams.org/2004 Note: 2004 CALL FOR PAPERS DEADLINE CHANGED TO DECEMBER 31, 2003: Read and Heed the Call and Send it to Colleagues: Here is a link for the 2004 ASD CONFERENCE IN COPENHAGEN: CALL FOR SUBMISSION: http://www.asdreams.org/2004/idx_call_for_presentations.htm Please prepare your submission and please forward this notice to other colleagues. >>>> ASD ATLANTA REGIONAL MEETING: January 31, 2004 DISCOVERING THE MEANING OF YOUR DREAMS Emory University, Atlanta, GA Join experts from the International Association for the Study of Dreams to learn how dreams can inspire and improve your life--and provide answers to personal and professional problems. Awaken to the wisdom of dreams through lectures, participatory exercises, and dream sharing. Go to www. ASDreams.org for info re: S.E. Regional Conference. Bring bag lunch and your dreams!! (Drinks provided) $75 or $60 for students (with ID) or ASD members (go to www.ASdreams.org to join) Instructors: David Gordon, Ph.D., Founder of The Dream Institute, Norfolk, VA; Robert Hoss, MS, Phoenix, Arizona, President- Association for the Study of Dreams; Justina Lasley, MA, Charleston, SC, Dream consultant and group leader trainer; Tallulah Lyons, MEd, Atlanta, GA, Dream worker and author. >>>> Dreamwork in Taiwan – William R. Stimson Dr. William R. Stimson left academia and opted for a life of radical simplicity centering on meditation, martial arts, yoga, dream analysis and writing. He is the founder and former editor of the Dream Network Journal and led evening dream groups in Manhattan. For years he conducted the free all-day meditation group every Saturday at the Ch'an Meditation Center in Elmhurst, Queens. His writing has appeared in numerous journals and magazines. He currently lives in Taiwan where he is devoting himself to writing. This exciting group uses state-of-the-art methods for exploring dreams in a collective setting. Facilitated by a Ph.D. personally trained by Montague Ullman, M.D., who originated the approach in Sweden. From beginning to end, the dreamer controls the process. Department of Social Work Chaoyang University of Technology Wufeng, Taichung County EXPERIENTIAL DREAM WORKSHOP Led by Dr. William R. Stimson and Dr. Shuyuan Wang Four consecutive Saturdays - In English - Enrollment limited to 12 - No charge From the Website: Why dreams? To bring out the intelligence, feeling and sensitivity trapped inside, that you don't even know you have. To connect with your deepest genius, your highest potential, your true nature. To live a life in which you are really you and not someone others have wanted you to be. Thereby, to become a wholly-integrated person. What is an experiential workshop? This is a process of dream work developed by Dr. Montague Ullman in Sweden. In this method no outside conceptual framework, be it Freudian, Jungian or other, is imposed upon the images of a dream. Rather the concepts necessary for their interpretation are brought out from inside the dream itself by a group dynamic that is intellectually challenging but also playful, creative and fun. Expect laughter, tears, excitement and much learning about the genius of the human mind. This is the first time this work has ever been brought to Taiwan. For information on Dream workshops in Taiwan: http://www.my-hope.com/Bill/ >>>> Gordon Onslow Ford Dies A dream inspired painter, Gordon Onslow Ford, died at the age of 90 from a stroke at his home and studio in California. Ford was the last of the original Surrealists group formed around Andre Breton in Paris. His foundation, the Lucid Art Foundation, continues under the co- founder and director, Fariba Bogzaran, who is herself a long time artist and psychospiritual dream supporter, having developed many dream arts programs with the Association for the Study of Dreams and having produced the first Dream Certification program at a University (JFK). Bogzaran's online biography of Gordon Onslow Ford relates how Ford, born in England in 1912, found his way to the Paris of the 1930's and fell in with Matta and Andre Breton, who were already evolving the Surrealist Movement. Bogzaran writes: "As a Surrealist, Onslow Ford was initially interested in dreams; recording and making sketches of his own dream experiences. Early on, however, it became apparent to him that it was impossible to paint dreams and that the rendering of the dream image was merely a copy of a past event. Unlike many Surrealists who were interested in Freud's theory of dreams, Onslow Ford gravitated toward Carl Jung's idea of the Collective Unconscious and Ouspenski's theory of the Fourth Dimension. His artistic passion aimed toward expressing what lies beyond the personal in dreams." From his book _Creations_ Ford writes "The ideal way in which to express a dream would be to get it down as it happens, unfortunately, this is not possible as a dream image appears in the mind faster than it can be painted. " (pg. 35) Ford continued to valorize dreaming, not the visible dream that was taken as a representative of life, but the pre- representational dreaming, the world barely accessible to consciousness, yet upon which consciousness rests. Like his Surrealist friends, he is suspicious of given forms and seeks to break through them to world beyond. "Some dreams are messages from the depths in symbolic language, but how rare is it in dreams to catch an inkling of what the inner-worlds are really like! But I am sure that I visit the inner-worlds every night while asleep – as I recognize what appears spontaneously in my paintings and am led on with a sure sense of direction." _Creation_ (pg 63) Access to the inner-worlds is not direct, but through "involution" where awareness is based on the known, but moves towards the unknown. Ford refers to this place as "…the worlds within worlds that move from the surface between the conscious and the unconscious towards the depths of the unconscious." (_Creations_ pg 75) And Ford's work expresses these values. In his paintings the primary elements of |O· (line - circle – dot) move away from representational marks to spontaneously expressed space-matter in time. The known world seems to both speed up and slow down at the same time as it becomes rotations, intensity and speed. "|O· is a trinity in which every element, be it line, circle or dot can be made at the highest possible speed with full attention. " (Creation pg 82) These revelations developed over time. Bogzaran reports that Ford came to the America's in the 1940's, and after some time in Mexico developing post-surrealist trends, he came to the Bay area in California where he was influenced by Haridas Chaudhuri's Hinduism and Alan Watts Zen-Buddhism. These ideas particularly found expression in calligraphy. Each step brought out new ways to express the inner-world. "When the painter first glimpses the Muse in another person or in dreams, she is illusive and unattainable, but through persistent devotion, he finds ways to come closer." (Creation, pg. 64) Ford never left the Bay Area and through the decades produced a wide variety of paintings, artist's communities, texts and exhibits that testify to the profundity of his vision. The Lucid Art Foundation continues to support a direction in art that expresses the "quest of the Inner-worlds." www.lucidart.org Report by Richard Wilkerson, based upon the following materials: Bogzaran, Fariba (2003). Gordon Onslow Ford: Biography http://www.onslowford.com/biography/index.htm Ford, Gordon Onslow (1978). Creation. Rittergasse, Basel: Galerie Schreiner AG Please see the Gordon Onslow Ford show online at http://www.onslowford.com or more directly at: http://tinyurl.com/wqms --------------------------- >>>> The Primordial Project - Seeking Volunteers in DreamTime in 2004 and 2005. Dear Dreamers, Light Workers and Healers I am starting a Dreaming Project on the Dream Plane. I have finished my studies and am ready to begin. My 7-year cycle that has ended, after my awakening and self-healing begins a new 7 year cycle. I am grateful for the continuing guidance in my work by teachers, friends, relatives, studentst, God/desses and Ascended Beings. THE PROJECT AND PURPOSE: To energetically begin to remove blocked energy and clear, purify, bless and set compassion and love 'intention' of 9 specific Ancient Temples on the 'Curved' matrix line across the Earth. [Most are familiar with the 'Linear' Grid Matrix Line of the Ancient Pyramids around the globe but these are not the Temples.] This work will begin to open Portals to remove Old Systems of Duality [Pyramidal Societies] and begin to open Wholeness of the Cycular or feminine energy and the New Systems of the coming Egalitarian Societies. The list of Temples were given directly to me through the Ancient Antlantian Thoth [Djewty], as he now passes the Ancient Sword of the Sacred Masculine to the Sacred Feminine within all of us. VOLUNTEERS: I am seeking those who can work in DreamTime at night or during the day. Those who are experienced with Energetic Healing, Energetic Space Clearing in the physical realms, those working with transformational Water Healing, Sound Healers and/or those experienced with Psychopomps. If you are an advanced Dreamer without these backgrounds, you will be considered with your particular gifts of the ability to hold sacred space. These requirements above are not absolutes. Any work including Shamanism, Feng Shui, Reiki Master/Practitioner, Pranic Healing, Cranio-Sacral etc. is also helpful. The volunteer must not be associated to just one singular religion or indigenous path, but a Rainbow person who accepts and embraces all teachings and ancient teachings. Understanding of Lunar Alchemy or systems beyond basic Mayan principles and use the Lunar energy as guidance is helpful but not mandatory. Deeply Spiritual practices of Meditatation, Yoga, Prayer, Intent or Affirmation work also helpful if these are your particular path. Global Reverence of Love as the Divine Energy Foundation. PROJECT SCHEDULE: I am setting up a Schedule to visit 9 particular Temples in 2004 and 2005 on the Dream Plane in a repeated series of Healing Visits. Your work can be done at night in the Night Dream or Shamanically in the Day or in the Day Dream Awake (if you are at advanced level). Please write me personally and I will begin a list of 'dedicated' volunteers and keep in contact with you as I progress with the final schedule. If you are called to this project, I seek only dedicated, serious and committed follow through the long haul types of volunteers, who have moved into action. FACILITATORS PERSONAL NOTE: I HAVE LEARNED from my personal healing journey that: Peace on Earth begins with reaching great states of Inner Peace and self - acceptance of both personal Light and Dark Nature, and working towards wholeness with great dedication daily; Secondly awakening to personal illusion, denials, self suffering or victim consciousness; Third, into personal shadow work and integrating darkness [creation] rather than rejecting it to re-balance the chakra system for wholeness of masculine and feminine energy within and lastly Core Fear Issues that arise to push through conscious levels into the unconscious with awareness for depths of personal Clarity and Discernment. An Awakening to the Logical and Reasoning Minds Limitation. Compassion and Wisdom teachings with an integration of the Spirit of Nature within and in the physical world of Fire, Earth, Water, and Air and their Archetypes and an awakening or understanding of Mother Nature herself as she comes alive as a living and breathing spiritual energy. Energy Systems within to merge as Co-creator in the Matrix of the Unified Fields and self-connectedness to the All [Cosmic Mother Energy]. Blessings Mary Novak 13 Star Nation Shaman http://www.LilithSophia.com >>> Healing Quest features work of Patricia Garfield Patricia Garfield's work on Healing Dreams is featured in episode 13 of a new PBS series called "Healing Quest". In the San Francisco Bay Area, it's airing on KCSM, Channel 60, Sundays, 5:00 p.m. and KRCB, Channel 22, Mondays, 10:30 a.m. For more information, visit the website at: www.healingquest.tv. >>>> New Robert Moss Video Series The Way of the Dreamer, With Robert Moss www.psycheproductions.net First two titles in the new video series released: Dreaming a Life with Robert Moss The Power of Active Dreaming $19.95/each Web-offer- Both for $36.95 www.psycheproductions.net or call 203/877/9317 More Moss at mossdreams.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< R E A S E A R C H R E Q U E S T S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< >>> Mutual Dreaming Experiment – Bjo Ashwill A call for participants in a research dream project. I am looking for people who are either 1. Attended and participated in the PsiDreaming online conference, or 2. People who are NON psi dreamers or 3. People who consider themselves psi dreamers and didn't happen to be a part of the conference. The purpose of this research project (Intentionally As An Important Factor In Mutual Dreaming Similarities) is to attempt to show that having the intention of dreaming mutually will cause more frequent similarities in dream elements among the mutual dreamers. I also need people who do not do mutual dreaming as a control group. The process will be as follows: A computer program called DreamSpinner will be used to input all the dreams submitted to this project. This program uses the words in the narrative (dream report) to create frequency lists of all elements in the dream report. One data processor, Bjo Ashwill, will maintain reliable consistency in her method of linking each word in the narrative to the appropriate categories in the program. (An expanded version of the Hall/van de Castle content analysis categories.) Four different groupings of dreams will be kept in separate databases in DreamSpinner to be able to compare these different groupings with each other. First grouping will be dreams that occurred during a mutual dream contest with full intentionally in place (Dreams from 2 different contests 2002 and 2003 will be used, 9/26/02 and 9/25/03) Second grouping will be dreams from those same mutual dreamers but from dates chosen randomly in the past so no mutuality intention was present. (Assuming no precog time warp!) (April 4, 2003 and July 15, 2003.) Third is a control group of dreamers who do not necessarily consider themselves psi dreamers who will present dreams from the following nights. 9/25/03, 7/15/03, 4/4/03 and 9/26/02. You do not have to have dreams on all four nights to qualify, just send the dreams on the nights you did have dreams. The fourth group of folks didn't have dreams on those four nights, so you may send in any dreams of your choosing from 9/25/02 through now. For those of you who had dreams on one or two of those nights you may choose dreams at any date of your choosing from 9/25/03 through now in addition to the ones on the chosen dates. I would like three things from each of you willing to participate. 1. The Dreams: Your dreams for the nights of 9/25/03, 7/15/03, 4/4/03 and 9/26/02. Or if you do not have dreams on these nights, send dreams of your choosing from 9/2/02 through now. (I ask you to reexamine your dream report with complete details in mind. Fill in all those missing details we take for granted when we write our regular dream reports. Add colors, shapes, materials, structural details. The fact that I don't know you personally and I will be inputting the information into a computer program means that only the details you write in the report will be examined. Do not assume I will know the shape of your table or any other object.(square, round, oval etc.) Label the characters with age (adult, child, baby or teen), sex (male or female or blended), numbers of them (group or individual), and identity (relation? Friend? Husband or wife or child? Occupational, Famous or prominent?) Colors, shapes, sounds, feelings need to have descriptive words in the dream report for it to be counted in the DreamSpinner software. More is better. 2. A permission form (enclosed here, just copy and paste into an email to me dreambjo@comcast.net) Answer yes or no to each of the following sentences: 1. ___I give permission to use my dreams that I submit to this research project for the purpose of calculating the frequency with which images and dream elements are similar or not to the other dreams also submitted to this project. 2. ___I give permission to publish or print the results of this research project using my dreams as part of the data. 3. ___I give permission for excerpts of my dream to be published or printed with my name attached. 4. ___I give permission for excerpts of my dream to be published or printed without my name attached. 5. ___I also give permission for Bjo Ashwill to use my dream as part of a norming base for the software DreamSpinner. The information will be anonymous. (This is purely optional, I'm just trying to -- gently caress two birds with one hand) ; ) 6. ___I would like periodic updates on the info this research project comes up with. 3. Filled out question form for demographic information. (also copy and paste, and email to dreambjo@comcast.net.) Personal contact info like address and phone will be kept confidential. 1. Name: 2. Age: 3. Sex: (Male or female) 4. Marital Status: 5. Educational level achieved. 6. Snail mail address: Street Number and name, City, state or province and country. 7. Email address: 8. Phone Number. 9. Consider self a psi dreamer? ___ For how long?____ 10: Have you had experiences with Mutual dreaming before? If yes, then for how long? 11. How long have you kept journals of your dreams, assuming you keep a journal. 12. Do you consider yourself an introvert or an extrovert in thinking style? I very much appreciate your involvement in this research project. Thanks, Bjo Ashwill, dreambjo@comcast.net >>>> Survey: How to apply dreamwork? Bitsy Broughton I am a student in the JFKU Dream Studies certificate program in Orinda, CA. I am searching for new creative ways to apply dreamwork education and experience, beyond traditional therapeutic practice or laboratory based sleep research. I believe that all of us in the field have creative new ideas and see possibilities, but have no single place to gather those ideas together and see what we can make of them. If you have any thoughts on the following few questions, I would appreciate your perspective. If you would like to know the results of my search, I will be happy to share it with you once it is complete. I anticipate that to be early December. Do you see opportunities for career work combining dreamwork and spirituality? What are they? If this work could be placed on a spectrum from highly traditional to highly non-traditional work, and work in the ministry or in churches is at the traditional end, what would be at the highly non-traditional end? Do you know of other sources you would recommend I contact, or better questions I should be asking? Thank you for your insights. Bitsy Broughton b.broughton@comcast.net >>>> Computer Dream Survey Are you dreaming of problems with your hard disk, getting connected, the wrong programs coming up, not being able to find the file you want? Does your computer turn you on, and have you found yourself mating with a digital partner or cyborg sex? Has god spoken to you through your computer in a dream? Has the computer in a dream assisted you in becoming lucid? Just as during the last turn of the century, we shifted from horse and carriage dreams to cars, trucks and jets, now we are entering a new cyber-symbolic era of networking and global interface. What dream content will remain, what will change? Take the Computer-Dream survey and help us better understand the changing night-scape of the digital culture. http://dreamgate.com/dream/computers/computerdreams.htm <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< W E B S I T E & O N L I N E U P D A T E S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< Do you know of interesting new websites you'd like to share with others? Or do you have updates to existing pages? Help spread the word by using the Electric Dreams DREAM-LINK page www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/ . This is really a public projects board and requires that everyone keep up his or her own link URLs and information. Make a point to send changes to the links page to us. >>> ASD updates Link Pages Volunteers at the Association for the Study of Dreams are updating the general resource dream links and need your help. If you have a website that is listed incorrectly, please send these corrections into Richard Wilkerson at rcwilk@dreamgate.com http://www.asdreams.org/subidxedulinks.htm >>>> Dream inspired Art Gallery – ASD 2003 http://tinyurl.com/sld9 The 2003 ASD dream art exhibition consisted of online and offline parts. The online web show is now available. The web show, including the work of 32 artists from all over the United States, as well as England and Greece, is one of our biggest shows ever. The web show was curated by Richard Russo, ASD Arts Chair, with the help of an advisory jury that included Catherine Campaigne (Creative Director, Dream Time), Betsy Davids (California College of Arts & Crafts), and Diane Rusnak (dream artist). >>>> Bag O' Dreams – Dream Exploration Software http://helen7.home.comcast.net/bag/bag.html Bag O' Dreams is an application for the exploration of dreams. Bag O' Dreams does not interpret dreams: instead it provides a way to search dreams for related themes and content using information retrieval techniques. You can enter a list of terms and phrases associated with a concept or theme and Bag O' Dreams will automatically identify the dreams that are most likely to be relevant to it. You can also start from a particular dream and find other dreams that closely match it in content or generate a list of common themes contained in the dream. Starting from the level of individual words, you can discover which other terms are commonly associated with it, how often it occurs and display it in the context of your dreams. Starting from a collection of dreams, Bag O' Dreams can automatically partition these into sets of dreams that are thematically related. Bag O' Dreams is a Java application that requires JavaTM 2 Runtime Environment 1.4 or higher to work >>>> Alchera Designer Harry Bosma's new website www.Alquinte.com is now officially Harry Bosma's new personal website. Electric Dreams: What happened to the Healing Dreams site? Harry Bosma: I needed a larger place hosted by a real webhost instead of my ISP. While working on the Alquinte website, I have also come to think of it as symbolizing the start of a new phase in my life. Healing Dreams was strongly related to my background with CFS (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome), and there are encouraging signs that I may be able to leave much of the CFS behind me soon. To tell a bit more about Alquinte: the latest addition to Alquinte is a page with dream art, made while testing Laura Atkinson's dream art class. I also have the More Lucid Dreams project at Alquinte, and the results of the Importance of Dreams survey. ED: What does Alquinte mean? HB: In my dreams, strangers sometimes have names. In one dream my uncle - a psychologist - asks me whether I've seen his daughter Alquinte. He's upset that I don't even recognize the name. Somehow that dream made a big impression on me. It sounded like Alquinte could mean something in Spanish. Although I didn't find the exact word in the dictionary, there were many interesting associations, for example to alchemy, but also to music. I liked the word very much. So, here she is: Alquinte! Have a look: http://alquinte.com/en/ ED: Are you still keeping the Dream Journal site? HB: Yes, I've always considered the Alchera dream software important enough to give it its own place. Alchera will remain online at: http://mythwell.com **************************************************** o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Cover Artist, Noreen Wessling The Dream Magician o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o TARAWAITH offers "MAGICIAN WISDOM" Tune in with Nature, fabric of the Universe, thus unbind yourself My dream cards each had their own agenda on how they wished to enter into my world and Tarawaithe, Magician of Dreams, was no exception. This androgynous character emerged with great enthusiasm, not from a night dream, but from a meditative inner dialogue session… a type of Active Imagination that Jung was so fond of. But first a little background where this meeting took place in outer reality. On Samhain, October 31, 1997, Noreen hiked down to her magnificent "Grandfather Oak Tree' deep in her 6 acre of woods. While meditating and leaning against Grandfather's immense trunk it came to her to ask for an ANCESTOR to communicate with. Tarawaithe told Noreen in a dialogue that his/her and that s/he was of Icelandic and Turkish parents. Tarawaithe said "I am the Magician of Dreams and an artisan of fine fabrics and designs. I make beautiful garments of fur, bone, precious stones and anything of nature that asks to be included. I can help you to be more daring and spontaneously YOU in your dreams and in your art if you want. You are ready to unbind some bindings. Loose them with 'drumming of purpose.'" Have in your mind before each drum time "I WANT YOU TO UNBIND ME" and let'r rip. Noreen reports "Then as I lay against the tree, I felt the strong urge to sketch this ancestory, seeing then Tarawaithe, who now feels a friend of mine forever. " http://www.creativespirit.net/noreens7artsstudio/ Noreen's Dream Treasure Cards are available for viewing & purchase online as well as a full story of how she came about them and how they were created. Or you can email her for more information at Noreen Wessling [NOREENFW@CINCI.RR.COM] o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange Lucy Gillis o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o On occasion, the LDE features book reviews of lucid dream related books. This month, Katie - an accomplished lucid dreamer herself - shares her views of Olga Kharitidi's book, "Master of Lucid Dreams": Book Review By Katie Master Of Lucid Dreams by Olga Kharitidi, MD Hampton Roads Publishing, 2001 I've been having lucid dreams all my life, so they seem wonderful but natural to me. I was astonished in my early 20's to come across one of Stephen LaBerge's books about lucid dreaming and find out that it was a recognized and studied phenomenon. I had the privilege of volunteering with the "oneironauts" for a while, trying out some of the masks, participating in the experiments. Great fun, amazing to hear other people's experience and carry their curiosity and enthusiasm into my next LD. Kharitidi's book is about as far from the sleep labs of Stanford as you can get: don't let the "MD" fool you into thinking otherwise. Khartidi is a practicing psychiatrist; the subtitle of this book is "In the heart of Asia, a Russian psychiatrist learns how to heal the spirits of trauma". Kharitidi relates the story of her guided shamanistic enlightenment about human trauma and the use of lucid dreaming to resolve it. She brings this learning back to her psychiatric practice and gives us one example of a woman already trained in trance states and psychotherapy who hears Kharatidi's story and releases herself from the psych ward to go home and have a complete healing within a couple of hours. (I work at a psychiatric facility and am "professionally" skeptical of 2 hour cures.). And yet... the book had a pretty strong impact on me. My belief about dreams is that they encompass every label ever applied to them, from the meaningless firing of neurons in the brain, to Freud's almost as meaningless day residue, to a brain function that helps build experience into memory and learning, to a kind of psychological mirror, to as far out as you want to go on the spiritual side. I've had such varied and amazing dreams in my life that I place dreams in the same category as religion: It's too profound a subject for anyone to comprehend completely, and anyone who believes they have divine truth does -- have part of it. Like the elephant and the blind men, whatever bit we're able to grasp and comprehend is true, but incomplete. So I enjoyed Khartidi's book a lot; part of it rang quite "true" to me; others I rejected. But that's just my piece of the elephant. If you're looking for a read on lucidity from a shamanistic standpoint (what Jung would call "neuroses", where energy is "stuck" by an event; the author would refer to "memory demons"), this book will interest you. If your interest in lucidity is more based in brain function, probably not. If psychological integration is what you believe lucidity can help develop, maybe, maybe not. A reference point may be the books of Robert Moss -- if you've read him and found him worthwhile you may like this book; and the opposite may hold true as well. ******************************** The Lucid Dream Exchange is a quarterly newsletter featuring lucid dreams and lucid dream related articles and interviews. To subscribe to The Lucid Dream Exchange send a blank email to: TheLucidDreamExchange-subscribe@yahoogroups.com You can also check us out at www.dreaminglucid.com o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o I Ching, Tarot, Star+Gate And Dreams © 2003 Linda Lane Magallón o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o There are a variety of tools on the market that you can use to reveal the hidden side of things, but the ones I've found most useful for dream inquiry are I Ching, the Rider-Waite Tarot and Star+Gate. The best beginner's tool is the Star+Gate card deck, by Richard H. Geer (Orinda, CA: Star+Gate Enterprises, 1984). The images are simple and easy to comprehend, plus there are helpful hints for interpretation on the reverse of each card. For instance, a picture of "The Stone" is backed by the words "Steadfastness" and "Integrity." Even though they are more popular, I don't recommend Tarot cards for the first time explorer. The images are so complex, that when you begin to work with them, you must lean heavily upon someone else to interpret the cards for you. To read the Rider-Waite deck, I use *A Feminist Tarot* by Sally Gearhart and Susan Rennie (Boston: Alyson Publications, 1981). It's a well-worn book that I've supplemented with plenty of my own notation so that I never depend on it entirely. I treat it as a source of inspiration, not a dogmatic decree. There's also plenty of room to write notes in R. L. Wing's *The I Ching Workbook* (Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1979). In fact, Wing encourages it. The more you work with each tool, and compare written notes accumulated over time, the more you come to understand your own unique dream language. I Ching "What did soaring mean in my dream?" I wondered, throwing 3 pennies and recording whether they fell as heads or tails. I was consulting the I Ching to ask about my first high flying dream. The results formed the hexagram "Repair." Following the instructions, I changed the hexagram to "Potential Energy." My dream had been a joyful flight, with the colors of the blue sky, green fields and pink buildings below bright and clear. Acting in the traditional Super Hero role, I had flown a young boy to a hospital. As a high flyer, I was an agent of change and repair. According to the I Ching, the emphasis was on the potential energy of flying being rising from a healing pursuit. High flying is healthy, it seemed to say. "Why couldn't I attain greater height?" I asked the workbook a year later, about a dream in which I was slow and low to the ground. The I Ching advised, "It is best now to develop a continuous caution and inner strength...Through intense awareness you gain in security and need not fear difficulties." I read this as a call to develop lucid dreaming in order to overcome the drag in dream flight. I heeded that advice. Star+Gate I switched to Star+Gate when I had a dream about a group of people in a stadium. I had the feeling that I had to support them; they couldn't fly on their own. I grabbed a couple of men by the buttocks and flew them over to the stands where the audience burst into applause. Evidently the dream was a pun. The Star+Gate cards said the issue for me was the "condition of resting on one's laurels; being afraid to go forward." The resolution or new focus was being "courageous and adventurous." I don't limit my inquires to regular picture dreams. Once I asked about a phrase that I'd heard a voice say in the hypnogogic state. The Star+Gate suggested that my new focus was "redirecting energy to bring change" and "the challenge of decision making." The energy of change, I'd known from previous dreams, but the emphasis on decision making was new. Later that year, I had a dream in which I climbed a wire mesh fence, but in such an agile manner that I actually levitated a couple of inches above each foothold. As I laid out the Star+Gate cards in the manner that had been recommended, I wrote down each of their meanings. Finally, I found myself writing "Reach a conclusion, then follow it until you form a new conclusion. Follow the trail. Trust your instinct as to which path to choose." Then I sketched this "trail" of suggestions. The path on the paper looked just like a decision matrix! So I figured the dream was saying, that reaching decisions helps me climb the path to greater and greater heights, whereas letting go of worries and concerns means I can levitate. Note that the path of decision making is the path of free will choices, not a fated card layout. Because I wrote down my responses and put them in a binder, I could discover such recurring themes. Change and decision making, skill building and repair were common associations with the symbol of flight. Tarot Getting airborne is never guaranteed, no matter how long I've been flying in my dreams. Try as I might, there are times when I experience lulls and lack of lift. I want to know why: to find out what's deterring me and seek suggestions for release. For this inquiry, I selected 4 Tarot cards to represent reasons why I couldn't fly. Then I selected 4 more cards to resolve the issues at hand. Symbolically, the number "4" refers to the 4 elements or 4 directions. Practically speaking, I wanted a balance view of the situation. For me, flying is about keeping the balance between seeming polarities. It's a sort of mental discipline, a kind of "dream air-obics." * The Issues (and elements) 1. Page of Wands, reversed (Air) Lack of verbal power. Frustration at having important ideas, but being unable to articulate them. 2. 6 of Pentacles, reversed (Earth) Lack of cultural support, having to beg to be nurtured. No ready audience for my verbal or written expression. Lack of encouragement from the dream community. 3. 9 of Swords (Water) Nightmares, fear and doubt. Recurring depression and angst clouding the fair skies needed for clear take-off and easy navigation. 4. Knight of Swords (Fire) Fierce heroic action without staying power. My fatigue factor: running out of energy before the end of the day, a chronic problem. * The Resolutions (and eventual actions) 1. 9 of Pentacles Solitary creativity in a safe universe. Concentrating on personal expression in my own backyard. (I directed focus away from presenting at conferences and towards creating a web site for flying dreams.) 2. The Tower Overthrowing false consciousness. (I've been using cognitive therapy to change beliefs that hinder or are no longer appropriate for my current life.) 3. Ace of Wands The beginning of adventure. Giving up the passive feminine in favor of the active female. Treating the subject as a hero's journey. (After seeking models in old myths, I returned to science fiction and comic books. The idea of an active flying female is extremely rare, in historical terms. It's a future-forward perspective of human potential.) 4. 7 of Wands Taking a stand. Victory through sustained effort. (The struggle for balance in my dream life doesn't end, but I manage to get the upper hand by developing better control of negative forces.) Tarot and Star+Gate At another time when I was feeling especially discouraged, I wondered why I should bother expending so much effort trying to fly. What was my motivation for continuing the struggle? I went to both the Tarot and to the Star+Gate cards for answers. >From the Tarot deck I selected only one card. This time, it wasn't a game of chance. I turned the cards over so I could see the pictures. Then shuffled through them until I came upon an image that seemed to speak to the issue. This practice shifts the focus of inquiry from happenstance to directed will power. It's an affirmation of the opportunities for decision making. * The Magician ** Creative will power. (Quite appropriate for this sort of approach.) ** A synthesis of polarities. Bringing the inside out and the outside in. (Reciprocal energy flow. I help the dream; the dream helps me.) ** The connectiveness of the 4 elements. (Achieving balance in waking and sleeping life.) ** Advocate for the future. (The real fruits may lie ahead.) Then I went to the Star+Gate to select a card for comparison. + The Token (The overall issue. A repeat of the theme of reciprocity: I get a gift; I give a gift.) Since the single Star+Gate card had brought my attention back to the 4 elements, I decided to look at the gifts of flight from all of those perspectives. I selected 2 cards each. 1) Fire The Candle and The Butterfly. (Enlightened fascination and the birth of new consciousness. Flying dreams are often peak experiences in and of themselves.) 2) Water The Child and The Star of Laugh. (Discovering new potentials, inner attributes and externalizing them. Especial emphasis on humor and play. Unlike many other dreams topics, flying dreams are usually fun and upbeat, a decided advantage while sleeping and upon awakening.) 3) Earth The Mud and The Harp. (Creative products and ideas plus musical harmony. Flying dreams have provided inspiration for my creative dream journals and picture collages. I sometimes use music to incubate flying dreams and, even if I don't fly, I might get musical dreams, which are also quite uplifting.) 4) Air The Eye and The Star of Discovery. (Seeing and exploring, like Alice in Wonderland. A reminder that flying dreams often lead to lucidity. But even if they don't, my dreaming self is far more active and superheroic in her magical world, when she knows she can fly.) Seen together, I was reminded that flying is very beneficial, from a number of points of view! The Dream's Opinion of Inquiry Tools One night, after playing with the Tarot deck, I had a dream in which I was flying above a valley. I knew the people below could see me and thought that they might think I was some kind of witch. Tree branches began to appear, suspended in the sky. They were barren except for a few leaves each. I grabbed a couple of the branches and extended both hands so it would appear to those below that I was using the branches as wings. But I knew I could really fly without them. I've discovered that it's important to check your dreams to find out when to *stop* using a particular method. I recognized the tree branches as the suit of Wands: straight, staff-like branches with just a few leaves each. The dream was telling me that, yes, I could use the Tarot deck as a technique to interpret dreams, but I really didn't need it. Do you know the best method to interpret your dreams? Your dreams! Who else knows what they really mean? So I suggest that if you think you understand, ask for another dream to comment on your waking state conclusion. You might be surprised to know what your dreaming self has to say. Inquiry tools can be great fun. But, in the end, the dream comes first. http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html (Dream Flights) o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o A VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE Jean Campbell o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o This month's View from the Bridge is a connected series of reports from various members of the Peace Bridge group. A VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE November 2003 Jean Campbell For anyone who doubts that people dream together, and that possibly we are dreaming the world into existence, the collected dreams from this month on the Peace Bridge can be viewed as a study in collective consciousness. Filled with astronomical phenomena, November has been a busy month of dreams, culminating in the DaFuMu dreaming for the people of Istanbul. I have appended a collection of the Istanbul dreams at the end of this article, but at least a brief commentary on other events of the month seems important as well. November 8, 2003 Because this was the day of the Harmonic Convergence and a full moon full lunar eclipse, it was the day selected for the annual ASD Dream In and a kickoff to the yearly Pledge Campaign. Many members of the Peace Bridge were prepared to participate in the Dream In (which was also Chayim's birthday). On the day before this event, Ilkin sent a message to the Bridge discussion group: "Pray for Moonlight." As it turned out, Moonlight is the English translation of the name of a young Turkish woman who had been unable to see clearly from birth. With Ilkin's assistance, she received surgery, and with the healing prayers of the group, she has now recovered full sightedness. In a dream three days before this, Ilkin reported that she had seen a car go by with a woman handcuffed in it, being held by two men. "I am trying to speak and persuade the men to free the woman," Ilkin wrote. "I am giving them whatever I have valuable on me to free the woman." Moonlight also dreamed the night before the surgery. She assured Ilkin that she knew everything would be okay because she saw in her dream that she was climbing a hill and reaching the top. This event prompted Victoria to suggest that World Dreams people create art for Moonlight to see, and also prompted the quote from Mary, "One less act of violence against a woman on Earth is one step closer to peace." November 15, 2003 In Victoria, Australia, Nick and Victoria continued a series of Peace Train Workshops they have been doing with young people there. Victoria wrote that on the train, returning from the workshop, she and her children, Emily and Blake, met a Chinese grandmother with her two grandchildren. "The children ended up having lots of fun on the way," Victoria wrote, "because I still had extra bottles of bubbles to blow. There were many 'no' signs - 'no feet on seats' 'no fare evasion' 'no this'; 'no that' but nothing that said 'no bubble blowing.'" Victoria also created a page of workshop photos on her website, which can be viewed at http://www.alphalink.com.au/~mermaid/pipsters_oct03.html Nick has also been hard at work, with the assistance of other Peace Bridge members on the new Peacetraining web site, www.peacetraining.org which will allow people a much fuller access to some of the many ideas for creating Peace Trains. The Peace Train Project grew from a dream which Jeremy Seligson dreamed in Korea last year, and since that time Peace Trains have been spreading around the world. November 16, 2003 Since October, at the suggestion of Ilkin, Kathy from Australia, and others, members of the Peace Bridge discussion group had been planning to participate in the Day of Tolerance promoted by UNESCO. The group had agreed to dream together and to invite others to dream with us, as well as to light candles for peace. On that Day, in Cincinnati, Jody and her husband Terry had invited many people to join in a friendship walk at the International Friendship Park by the Riverwalk on the Ohio River. Before the day was out, however, a tragedy occurred in Istanbul. Terrorists bombed two synagogues there, killing and maiming many people. From Germany, Ralf immediately sent his condolences to Ilkin and others on the Bridge, prompting from Chayim a post with the subject line, "Just Another Bombing/Pass the Popcorn". These events elicited a busy round of discussion about the meaning of peace and the meaning of tolerance. The International Day of Tolerance brought up far more than anyone expected. Nonetheless, when Jody wrote of the Riverwalk event, she said: "About 35-40 people gathered, black, white, brown, Asian. Many people discovered connections to others there even though they learned about the event from different avenues. My most riveting image of the afternoon, a gray misty one by the river which was glassy and silver looking, great barges slowly moving by was this: two young Vietnamese children came with their American mother, one of them was Zoe, 6 years old with missing front teeth and an earth shaking smile. Zoe was dressed in a bright red velvet shirt with her name Zoe embroidered across the front. She jumped and skipped and then with profound seriousness asked to know what tolerance means. She also got down on her knees on the circles in the paved walk where symbols of pairs of open hands joined and made a symbolic ring of friendship. She sailed three seed pod boats in the little pools of rain water that had collected in these circles, sailing her boats between Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Native American, African, Chinese, Japanese, and other symbols in these circles." And Ilkin pointed out that the victims of the tragedy in Istanbul- -Muslims, Christians, Jews--were all being buried as martyrs, and that the city, where people of different faiths have long lived in peace, would build a monument to Tolerance. November 20, 2003 Finally, on Thursday, November 20, I woke very early, before 5a.m. my time. As usual, I went to my computer to see read the emails that might have come in overnight from the Peace Bridge. Because the group spans the world, someone is always awake. I immediately found a message from Ilkin, saying that bombs were exploding again. Four terrorist bombs were exploded that day in populated areas of the city of Istanbul. Ilkin's twin sons lost a friend of theirs, a young girl who died in the hospital near midnight. Many others were killed and hundreds wounded. What could we do? Early on Thursday, I sent a message to the Bridge and to other dream groups online, asking that we do a DaFuMu Dreaming that night for the people of Istanbul. The night happened to be the Muslim festival of Quadr, when angels are said to come to earth. Here are the collected dreams from that night: Dear DaFuMu Dreamers, I would like to share with you a most extraordinary series of dreams, which I have compiled from the dreams sent to The World Dreams Peace Bridge, the ASD psi dreaming group, and the ASD dream activism group since my request on Thursday for a DaFuMu dreaming for the people of Istanbul. Because these dreams were sent to many different venues, I wanted to collect them all in one place. I have also sent the dreams to some others (in some cases, people who appeared in the dreams), because I thought they would be interested. I know that this is a long document, but I hope that you will read it through to the end. Thank you, and DaFuMu! Jean Dear Dreamers, I wanted to share the dream I had last night. Yesterday, when I was sending out requests for the DaFuMu dreaming, I sent a message to Yvonne Baez in Mexico City, because even though she has not been active on the Bridge lately, I knew she would want to be involved in this. So here's my dream. An Angel Over Istanbul When the dream begins, I am sitting in the dining room of a big house where ASD is having a workshop. Yvonne and I are sitting cross legged on the floor, facing one another. I am explaining to her about permeable and impermeable boundaries in dreams. That is, what I'm talking about with her is the idea that, even though we are dreaming, there are certain personal boundaries that we would not want to cross, those having to do with our deepest feelings. Then, just like we are having a slumber party, all of the people in the house lie down on the floor to go to sleep. We are wakened not long after that by Alan Siegel and Bob Hoss coming in the front door. They begin stumbling over people, so they turn on the lights, including the lights that are right over my head. I say, "Turn out the lights!" But they pay no attention to me, and soon everyone is awake and up again. In the next scene in the dream, we are flying in a helicopter that Bob is piloting. We are flying across a bay with a beautiful bridge spanning it (the Bosporus Bridge) and gaining altitude. I say to Bob, "I thought you put this away" (meaning the helicopter), but he nods and looks out the wrap around glass at the front of the helicopter. I look to my right. We are still gaining altitude, and ahead of us there is a convoy of six or eight helicopters, flying way ahead of us. I am worried that they are US helicopters getting ready to bomb someone. Then I look to my left, and see a winged figure backwinging to alight on the land below. At first I think it is an eagle, the US eagle, and I'm afraid again. But then I realize that it is an angel. Bob smiles. EOD I guess there is no need for me to interpret this one, huh? My Self said, when I was writing this dream in my journal this morning, "There are angels watching over all of you." Love to all of you World Dreamers. Yvonne, I'm glad you joined us :)) I hope that the angels descend en masse on Istanbul for Quadr. Jean Jean, I did have an unusual dream last night after wishing to have a helpful dream for Turkey as I was falling asleep. The dream: We had a special painting on the wall created by Gordon Michael Scallion (best known for his predictions of earth changes), and Gordon was arriving to visit. As I was going to meet him I looked out the back patio door and a huge wind was blowing the large tree outside. A great part of the tree broke off into the neighbor's yard. Thank goodness it did not hurt their house. Then the second part of the tree went down frontways between our two houses, again avoiding damage to either one. I could now see the sky in a way I had not been able to before, when the tree was in the way. I went outside to examine the part of the trunk which had landed between the two houses. It got up and STARTED WALKING like roughly the shape of a deer but still in the form of tree trunks (hard to describe). I looked at the end of one of the "legs" and saw a brown leg inside of the tree wood. Then it followed me in the house in the form of a large dog. I was so happy and excited that it was alive I could hardly talk. I called it "Magic." I couldn't decide whether to try to peel the bark off or leave it the way it was and woke up with a "numinous" feel. I have not had a dream of transformation or a dream with this sort of magical feel in a very long time. What I derive from it, since the intention was to dream of Turkey and peace in the region, is that while there is some destruction, it doesn't cause as much harm as it could have caused and some unusual form of new life emerges from the destruction - a kind of death/rebirth scenario. It is not something I could have consciously made up or imagined and I do feel it was a message. In Peace, Val Bigelow I wasn't planning to share this dream from last night since it, too, didn't seem to have much to do with the situation in Turkey, but after Val's dream I do have to share it! My wife and I are driving north to Vermont, where we will camp out near Mt. Mansfield (the highest mountain in the state). By the time we cross the border into New Hampshire it is late afternoon, and we still have a long way to go. My wife complains that we will not make it to the campsite by nightfall and suggests that we turn back. However, I insist on continuing on. When we arrive, it is 10:00 at night. We set up camp behind a log cabin structure. Others there are prepared to help me construct a small log cabin of our own. Just then, a huge white birch tree, maybe 1 foot in diameter, keels over and crashes to the ground, diagonal to where I was planning to put the log cabin. No one was in the way, so there are no injuries. I consider using the birch wood, but I find that it is punky and rotten. I will use other logs instead. The image I had in mind before going to bed was of the Blue Mosque of Istanbul (formerly Hagia Sophia), with its minarets. The birch tree did resemble a minaret. Perhaps there is something here about the need for the fundamentalist branches of the major religions (Muslim, Christian, Jewish, whatever) to fall because they are rotten to the core, before a new and suitable structure can be built for humankind (man's field) to live in? Curt Wow, Curtis, another fallen tree!! Now I'm sure we are getting a message. The tree fall but no one is hurt - that happens in both the dreams. One tree is rotten, the other has "magic" new life inside it. I think overall we are receiving very hopeful images in spite of what looks like destruction. Val Jean I don't have clear recall about the setting of my dreaming last night, but I feel sure that they included discussions of boundaries.. and the need to understand and express them before becoming angry. Victoria Dear Dreamers, I am immensely impressed by the quality of the dreamwork evident in your postings! Your interpretations would seem to be very well informed by your familiarity with the symbolic language. Allow me to bring a dream of similar theme to your attention. I was in a movie theater watching a film about terrible inhuman acts taking place during a contemporary war of destabilization and domination conducted by the U.S. via proxy terrorists. Suddenly the same proxy army in the film began entering the theater from behind the audience and started shooting us. It was then that I realized the dramatic or "movie-like" nature of what we call reality; i.e., we are involved in a small game which is part of a larger game we have forgotten about. I knew I was given this dream by entities who cared enough to attempt to ease my anguish for the fates of those who suffer at the hands of unconscious humanity. This does not mean we should blithely accept injustice because it is "merely" a movie in which the dead players arise at the end of the production and go on with the "bigger" game. The pain is very real. I believe we must participate in the creation of a better structure, the "temple not made with hands", even as we witness the tearing down of the old structures to make room for the new. It is a labor most literally of love. Blessings on your important work, Geoff I hope to hear from Ilkin. I thought I didn't dream much that was helpful, but on reflection I suppose this is a dream of peace and of DaFuMu perhaps as well. I dreamed I found myself (with no preparation) teaching a session called "The Art of Quiet." Evidently it was meant to be "art" in the sense of visual arts, as the participants were sitting on the floor with drawing supplies, looking at me expectantly. First I tossed them all the pillows from my bed to sit on (I have a lot of pillows), then I suggested they each in turn call out whatever visual image of "quiet" came to their minds: "A snowy field." "A sleeping child." "The inside of a church, by candlelight." Then after two or three times around the room, I planned to suggest that they each take two or more images of their choosing - their own or anyone else's - and juxtapose them collage-like in a single drawing. Perhaps Jean would be so kind as to forward this to the WorldDreamers, and if any WorldDreamers contributed to this DaFuMu I hope you will forward your dreams to the PsiDreamers for us to see. Love, Joy I had a dream last night I was going on a cruise to Mexico. Me and a few girls, one of whom was pregnant and due any time, were going to go. We set a date, but then changed it to a few weeks earlier because the price went down and because it didn't coincide with the due date. Time to leave we were in a van to be driven to the docks. Steve Smith in the front passenger seat. The driver was driving fast down this curvy hill. I had to close my eyes and just not think about tipping over. Steve said 'yes that is better'. We got there. Some man announced 'and guess what, you are getting on the boat named Dream'. We got in and we had inner cabins (some of the ladies were complaining about this, I was just glad I was going). We sat in these very comfortable chairs. EOD Dear Jean and all dreamers who dreamed for us and peace for all the world.... Jean what a beautiful dream for us. Although people are acting as they don't affected and go on to normal life psychologists and other experts are warning on TV's etc that we may have a social post traumatic syndrome. They even opened some university's psychology departments for free and a phone call line. I personally realized that I want to sleep all day and thought it may be because of trying to find a way not to think. Tonight there was candles on many windows and at 18.00pm everybody turned on and of their lights for a time as a common signal. Tomarrow there will be a "Sound of silence against the sound of violance" protest all over the county. People will gather in all cities and walk in silence. The NGO's and all kind of labour and professional organisations will lead the protests with the slogan of "We don't have bombs, guns or bullets; we have our hearts". One side of me gets furious time to time and one side of me gets proud of my people's behavior. This is not the first time we are witnessing terrorism but maybe the most ......(I can't find the word). During the last 10-15 years more than 30.000 people died in this country but at least there was a braveness in those deaths, there was a fight. The most disgusting part of this last events is it's cowardice. Murdering and wounding hudreds of people in such a coward way is another thing which we can not understand easily in our culture. Even in our villages where there are blood feud (vendetta) to fire somebody from his /her back is accepted as cowardice and such people can never find respect in their lifes. In fact these stupid, nihilist, radical, terrorists (i can coun't thousands of words) are not aware that they have turned their gun to themselfs by these bombings. They can't even call themselfs as muslim in this country anymore after killing so many in this way and this sacred time. Today the newspapers head lines was as "El Katil". "Katil" means "murderer" in Turkish and for Turkey, "El Quayda" or any of these groups name is "El Katil" after now. Dear Jean, Kathy, Ralf, Victoria, Joy and all who prayed and dreamed for us, thank you all. It is believed in Islam that tonight is the sacred night which God sends all His angels to the world, listen all the prayers and forgive the sins. I was outside a little while ago. It was really as a somehow different, mystic, magical night. There was a mist (fog?) on the ground as white clouds has landed on the earth. It was hard to see the houses around but the sky was so clear and full of stars. I watched the mist on the ground and the stars at the sky for a long time and think about the universe. I thought how little we are, how unimportant what we lived, how far away to those stars but still how close we are. And for a minute I had a strange feeling thinking if that mist can be to hide the angels around. Maybe you were also there Jean, with your angel. After so long years of atheism, I was just begining to believe that there must be a great creator and these bombings made me question that creator again. Maybe I mus not question but these are tests we have to take. Well, in short thank you all for thinking us. Oh, my dream...I can remember only one dream from the last 5-6 days and I wish it doesn't mean there is a hindred years of loneliness waiting us but peace; "I am staying in a one roomed ground floor place with my husband and children. It is up a hill facing the Asia part of the city and the sea. It up to the site of houses I am living now. There is a recluse old man living in the room near us. He is making spiced nuts and ruffles in his style and sell them. He is the grand son of Gabriel Garcia Marquez (or himself). He is reading me poems and I am telling him he is as successful as his grandfather (and thinking he is too old to be the grandson) and he must publish his work instead of making these spiced nuts etc. He is answering me it is so hard to get in front of "A hundred years of Solitude". He is helping me too much and I am happy having him as a neighbor. There are many shops around. I am seeing that they are selling very qualified stuff in spite of the poor neighborhood. Beginning just in front of my house there is a luxury site of houses as mine. I am thinking I can sell mine and can move to one of these houses. At a corner of the neighborhood there is a place where they put their rubbish. While I am looking at the rubbish one of the daughters of the woman who is working for me is bringing me a weird bouquet of flowers. It is very much embodied with colorful laces and the flowers are sitting in the middle of an old silver vase. I am telling the girl to pull the flowers so I can see the vase. She is pulling the flowers but throwing them into the rubbish before I can say anything. I am telling her that flowers are as valuable as the vase and I am going to put them back in the vase after having a look. She is trying to get them out of the rubbish but we are seeing that the flowers are not fresh but dried. I am taking the flowers anyway. We are meeting with her mother, where she came to visit me in the one roomed place. I am telling her about my moving plans and we are walking towards my real house. When I am coming to the house I am seeing that my neighbors are there to visit me. We are at a floor dawn the top. One of them says she have to go to bathroom and I am telling her to go to the one 2 floors dawn. The woman working for me is warning me that she didn't clean there yet I am calling behind my neighbor to go to the one at the top floor but she is not hearing me. I am getting very angry to the woman working in the house, saying she had been lazy when I was away and didn't keep the house clean. She gets ashamed and says she was having problems. My neighbor is coming out of the bathroom disgusted and I am apologizing from her, saying I had called after her to use the one at the top floor. She is answering me that not only the bathroom but all the rooms she passed was in a mess. I am thinking that this neighbor is not worth to speak or to explain that some times a house can be a mess because of some reasons, she is too material and I prefer old Marquez reading me poems as a neighbor and living in a one roomed little house." Well; I think no need to interpret but believe Jean's angel will help to overcome the mess we are in and accept to be in a mess for now. And anyway, what a wonderful thing to have a neighbor as Marquez, reading you poems; what can I want more.... Love you all- Ilkin This is amazing Victoria; You must be all reaching to us. I am feeling myself so happy and lucky having you dreamers. You already knew we will have a " Sound of silence against the sound of violance" protest tomarrow. I am sure you will be walking with us in Istanbul and all over the Turkey tomarrow. I will think you all in my silence. Love and hugs- Ilkin Jean I don't have clear recall about the setting of my dreaming last night, but I feel sure that the included discussions of boundaries.. and the need to understand and express them before becoming angry. Victoria Joy and Victoria and all; And this is one of the two poems I wrote to World Dreams Peace Bridge 2 days before; third the line is "Silence All over the earth". There was no protest plan yet when I wrote this poem. - Ilkin GRAVE QUESTION The west wind soared high as the mountains Spreading Silence All over the earth Why say the dead shiver? Have you ever slept the sleep of death? In the forest syllable by syllable Leaves gave you the mighty darkness. Your body stood Night by night beyond beauty. Why say dreams are white? Have you ever slept the sleep of death? Shadows grew into the winds. Brooks And birds scuttled through your land. Desolate lay the village road. Why say your loved ones are gone? Have you ever slept the sleep of death? (F.H.Daglarca) Dear Dreamers, This is Yvonne, from Mexico. It's been a while... but the Istambul bombing brought me back to pray -and dream- for peace. (Thanks Jean). First of all, Ilkin, I send you and your family all my love, from the other side of the world. When Jean invited me to participate in this Da Fu Mu dreaming, I gladly accepted. But when I went to bed, though, my husband was watching "Gladiator" that was showing on the TV, and I fell asleep, without noticing it, nor making my intention for the DaFuMu dreaming. Two hours later, my husband was asleep, too and suddenly "something" woke me up, and felt Jean's presence right in front of me, and thought "Oh my God! I totally forgot about it! Right away I concentrated, put my thinking into Peace and Love to percieve that energy, and get "connected" to send it all around the world. The only thing I remember seeing before I fell asleep again was a HUGE 5 point star covering the sky. A while ago, when I was able to turn on my computer, and read the messages... clearly realized how Jean had come to my dreaming boundaries to remind me about the dreaming... The wierdest thing was that five minutes after I read Jean´s dream, a helicopter passed over my home roof... That has never happened this late at night! Call it synchronicity, if you want, or was it Jean's angel who came to visit? I would like to share another dream I had no long ago (November 7), that has to do with BELIEVING and making out of this world, what we wish -or dream- about: I am in a swimming pool with a friend . (Her name is Mali, and has been very spiritual all her life. But lately, she has had a lot of doubts and disbeliefs with all that is taking place in the world. I must confess I have been through this misbelief myself lately). In the dream, though, I ask her how couldn´t she believe, when we are having so many proofs around us. Before I finish saying that, many dolphins start swimming around us, touching us, etc… I am even able to hug a little one. My friend, though, who is just next to me, can´t see them. Then, I turn up to see the sky. It is very, very cloudy, with this enormous Cumulus type clouds. But suddenly, the clouds start taking shapes of big Angels all around! I tell my friend "Look up to the sky! There are many angels above us!!!!" She looks up, but sees nothing! EOD I came up to the conclusion that what we BELIEVE is what matters the most! If we believe in a world of Peace, sooner or later so it be. If we get "hooked" to the war, terrorists and hatred, so our world be... Well, fellow dreamers, that is all for now. Better go to bed... I will have a pretty busy weekend. Hope to be back in touch on Monday. Dreaming you, Yvonne View the World Dreams Peace Bridge web site at http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org Subscribe to the Peace Bridge discussion group by sending an e- mail to worlddreams-subscribe@yahoogroups.com |+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o The Waves: 08. Psychedelic Dreaming Electric Moon (September 20 to October 17, 2003) © 2003 Nick Cumbo o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o The Waves is a newsletter reporting on the explorations of the Sea Life community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims to bring together a circle of dreamers from around the globe, collaborating in mutual dreaming adventures, and 'dreaming with and for the earth itself' Link: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife This moon, the people at Sea Life, completed a 'Psychedelic Dreaming' project, in which we aimed to learn about whether or not it were possible to take psychedelics within a dream, and if so what effects the experience might have. We focused our interest on three of earth's natural bounty of psychoactive plants; namely peyote (mescaline), psilocybian mushrooms (magic mushrooms), and Salvia Divinorum (diviner's sage). Taking psychedelics within a dream obviously has some interesting advantages. For one thing, it gives us the opportunity to experiment freely without the concern of breaking the law or causing serious health damage. For another, it demonstrates the true power of the mind and it's potential to experience altered states of consciousness without the need for sacraments. An interesting avenue of exploration involved determining whether or not these experiences were based purely on subconscious expectations, or if it were possible to interact with the spirit of psychoactive plants directly through the dream state. Some of the dreamers at the forum, were concerned about the idea of actually intoxicating themselves with the plant through eating it in a dream, but were more comfortable with the idea of speaking to it directly, to learn about it's role and significance to the earth. Jeff, a friend from the Netherlands, had for 10 years been researching and using extensively all sorts of psychedelics in combination with meditation practises and an EEG machine (used to monitor brainwaves). He turned us on to some really amazing experiences. One involved the use of peyote, the common name for a hallucinogenic cactus, of which Mescaline is the active principal agent. A native to Mexico and the southwestern United States, it has been used for centuries by Native Americans in religious ceremonies. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- A PEYOTE SHAMAN "Mescaline I found very special! In one dream I met a shaman, all dressed in plant clothes, who gave me mescaline and every time I took a sip of the peyote drink I saw a part of my subconscious getting unlocked. I saw explanations about why things happened the way they had happened in my life. It was awesome! At the end of that dream I heard such beautiful music.. it was great! I felt so bad when I woke. I didn't want it to end. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- In another dream, earlier in the year, I had come across a massive collection or list of various animals and plants, with healing/positive energies or uses. Plants have been used by human society for healing and other purposes over hundreds and thousands of years, so this came as no real surprise. However, what made this all the more relevant, is that one of the plants listed was 'Salvia', of which one particular species, Salvia divinorum is psychoactive. "The main property of salvia divinorum is to induce flashes of REM activity during waking but without concomittant blockade of motor efferents. This leads to non-voluntary experiences of conscious dreaming or pre-conscious dreaming." http://www.shaman-australis.com/~claude/salvia2.html Once again, Jeff had some relevant stories of his own to share with us. "Many people including myself had a salvia trip where you indentified yourself with what you saw in front of you. I looked with my right eye in a dream and didn't see the world. I thought I was a fence around a garden and with my left eye I saw the normal world and the dream and I laughed that my other brain part was under narcosis. The funny thing thing is I proved with this (through the use of the EEG machine) that you can dream with just one brain hemisphere and not two as we do in normal REM sleep." Finally, Z managed to pull of a piece of magnificent dreaming, which gave us a whole new perspective on the link between psychedelics and sea life: ------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- PSYCHEDELIC OYSTERS I am walking on a beach and enjoying the vast expanses of water as well as the sand and the rocks that surround me. I find this shell on the ground which I pierce open with a knife. It's some sort of oyster. I eat it and immediately my body begins to feel awkward. I feel as if what I have just eaten must have had some alkaloids in it because my vision changes. I see the ocean now with dazzling specs of light touching every inch of water. It also seems as if the water is moving much faster than moments earlier. As if it's in fast forward. I continue to walk and find this grass path which seems to be manicured and thus probably man made. I walk down it and everything is so vibrant and glowing with energy. The track ends at this garden which has many weeping willows in it and old grecian statues. There are rays of light filtering through the trees as well as droplets of water falling from the leaves, as if it has just rained. The scene is magical, as if everything speaks to me. In this drug induced state everything is quite overwhelming. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- A beautiful experience! I couldn't help wondering if Z had just stumbled upon something otherwise undiscovered. Wouldn't it be interesting if these psychedelic oysters actually existed! The funny thing was only days later a fun-loving new member by the name of 'threecaster' joined us, sharing his thoughts on a band called 'Blue Oyster Cult'. "I was originally told years ago (maybe I read it on the album) that the name was based on a group of islanders who were found by spanish sailors. These islanders had priests who would eat the local Blue Oysters for psychedelic divinations." I'll leave with you the words of Morpheus, which I think help provide a bridge between exploration of the drug-induced realities, and the world of dreaming. "I believe the usage of these plants can help us to evolve unto greater potential. The only danger comes from the plants becoming crutches upon which we build that Evolutionary process rather than training wheels. My thinking is that they should help us along the path to a higher self, but like all 'tools' they are not meant to be carried on our backs once we have 'crossed the river', so to speak." ------------------------------------------------------------------ Stay tuned next moon for the results of our project, 'Dreaming with DNA'. We welcome new dreamers to join us in our adventures. Email: explora@dreamofpeace.net Forum: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife |+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Dream Blog on Dream Dreams Ian Campbell |+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o http://homepage.mac.com/ian20/iblog/C669912779 My journal records dreams I believe are preparing me for death. It also links to dreams I had before the deaths of my parents; and to a page for dream interpretation. "I am not a person who has 'psychic' dreams. I started to record my dreams in 1988, after a therapist told me they were meaningful. I was immediately fascinated, and shortly began to study dreams for myself and practise my interpretations. It was in 1995 that I had the first dream which seemed to me to predict a future event, and that the death of one of my parents. It was very worrying. I thought it would occur during a flight abroad they were due to take, and consulted with certain friends and family whether to say anything. I said nothing and they returned safely. My father died 3 months after that dream, but I had already started a sequence of about 30 dreams prefiguring the death of my mother 7 years later from cancer. I really didn't know what I could do with these dreams other than be perpetually alert and breathe a sigh of relief each time a few weeks passed by without consequence. For some reason, and if not utter stupidity I suppose it must be denial, it never really occurred to me to suspect some stealthy underlying illness like cancer, which was only diagnosed after she suddenly collapsed one day, 6 months before she died. After Mum's death I collected together the dreams and studied them as a group. What could they tell me about my mother? And then what could I learn about death dreams themselves? From the beginning the dreams made references to a life after death. It might be birds migrating, my waiting father, a wedding, birthday, journey, a Voice from above. This was comforting, but also interesting. Then I noticed some of the symbols used for the spirit like bird, cat, lion, fire, tree, flower. What was the significance of these different forms? And then I was asking myself, How might I have known when the end was coming? How did the dreams change from 7 years before to 10 days before? What does it all mean? I collected my dreams and thoughts into a book I called 'The Lark Ascending', which has still to find a publisher. It had already occurred to me that one or two of my thirty dreams had possible references to my own death. Then in February 2002, I had severe chest pain. Hospital tests said I was fine, most likely a stress reaction, and after a while I felt completely better. Needless to say, I looked closer at my own 'death dreams' after this, one of which had occurred just 2 days before the chest pain began. There was nothing more to be done. Doctor said I was fine, so just get on. Nevertheless I had a faith in my dreams and decided to see if I could get any more information about timing from first the IChing and then a psychic. I added the results in an appendix to my book. I got on with learning how to use a computer and then building a website to accompany The Lark Ascending. As that drew to a close I was getting dreams about not being ready for death, and so I looked around for unfinished business. One thing I hadn't done was collect together the dreams relating to my own death, which were all mixed in with other dreams in my dream book. At this time Apple offered its users a free weblog, and this seemed the perfect way to present the dreams on the web. So that is what I'm doing. It is quite bizarre in a way to be calmly plotting the dreams which seem to point to my death. But any number of people with mortal illnesses or advancing years must equally prepare themselves for the moment in their own ways. And as timing is not a strong point of dreams of this type, I might happily be noting down my death dreams well into old age! I don't think I will be, but who knows? And that is the wider point of my weblog. Whether I should die early or late, here is a piece of live data, which will provide some useful evidence on the subject." Join Ian on his adventure at: http://homepage.mac.com/ian20/iblog/C669912779 o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Stan Kulikowski II Dream: Child of Darkness o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o DATE : 28 nov 2003 11:05 DREAM : child of darkness =( yesterday was thanksgiving. my friend julius came over for dinner, while i prepared the traditional turkey. he left around 21:30 and i put the first episode of _upstairs downstairs_ on the video for mother to watch. it is now our tradition to begin watching her favorite series on thanksgiving. we usually get through the 57 episodes just after new years. i felt sleepy after eating some much turkey, so i went to bed around 23:30 and got to sleep within an hour. i did wake several times in the morning, but went back to sleep since today, friday is also a holiday and i could sleep late, hoping for a good dream for my dream journal. i have gotten a few dreams in the last few weeks, but none very interesting. )= something has gone wrong with the ritual and the adept is beginning to perspire heavily. he dare not wipe his face and much more sweat might wash away one of the protective sigils painted upon his face. then he would be vulnerable to the forces he has evoked but could no longer control. the little one at his side in the circle with him turns toward him. its smile is filled with pointed teeth. this small child is a mulatto: a child of the night who was instead born into the light. it had just arrived here from one of the prisoner of war camps from the outer regions. during the long progress of battle it sometimes happens that a major demon is captured. even injured these creatures are a threat and difficult to kill outright. mobile magical squads are required to handle such cases. usually they set up cabalistic circle around the wounded demon to perform the last rites of containment and cremation. the holy light of the heavens is evoked to incinerate the disabled demon and put it out of its misery. only then can the battle front move on with some sense of security behind its lines. but once in a while this process encounters a difficulty. if the wounded demon is pregnant, the usual rituals can not be used to extinguish two lives because the unborn is not guilty of the sins of its parent. in such a case, the circle of containment is established and a surgical unit is called in to extract the unborn fetus. sometimes these MASH facilities must wait for weeks or months until the delivery can be accomplished. this is very tiring on the magical team which must maintain the containment field constantly. sometimes the demon and its unborn may die of its injuries, but just as often it may recover which amplifies the requirements of containment. this child had been near term and did not require a lengthy gestation period before it could be delivered by caesarian section. once extracted, the incineration of the dying mother was not too difficult. the mobile surgical unit always has many dying soldiers, and their passage to the other side makes it comparatively easy to deflect some of the divine light onto the demon. front lines right after a battle also have this dimensional thinness because a large number of dying soldiers in a small area have pierced the veil often. using the front lines or the MASH units is thought to be a more humane method of collecting the light of heaven than outright ritual sacrifice. there is a problem of what to do with the still innocent infant of demonic parentage. because of its heritage from the fallen, any darkness will develop its natural tendencies to evil, so it is the responsibility of the prisoner of war camps to see that these misbegotten offspring are kept constantly in light and in isolation from others of its kind. sunlight by day and artificial light by night: thus a mulatto demon is raised and educated for beneficial purposes. such children are never comfortable in the constant light because their souls never come into focus, needing the darkness to solidify their true essence. a mulatto is still an unnatural child and a source of power misdirected from its heritage. the white skin of the mulatto which has only known light can be painted with pigments on one side to simulate shadow. even this artificial darkness can stir the forces contained within the child which allows a magician to contrast and control the negative energies. this adept, however, is having trouble. too much dark energy is flowing within his circle. the small amount of shadow painted on this mulatto should not have generated even half this surge of power. how was he to know that the guards in the outland POW camp did not understand the need of complete light and had allowed the child of darkness a natural night? saliva drips from the pointed teeth with anticipation of freedom and a meal of human flesh. =( awake at 10:54. it does not take me long to fire up my bedside computer and begin typing this dream into the files. this was not an easy dream to write up, harder than i thought when i began. this is a third person dream in which i am not personally there, just watching. and there is not much action, just the adept waving his arms in various incantations while the white skinned mulatto child turns toward him and grins its crooked smile with black makeup smeared on one side of its face. all the rest of the background material of how the wicked child had been created from a caesarian section on a wounded mother was known to me without actually being experienced directly. even knowing this, oddly i do not know the gender of the mulatto child. i suspect that demonkind may not have sexes as we understand them. )= Stan Kulikowski II stankuli@etherways.com . === the arts which help all mankind | | cannot help their master --- -- john dowland (1604) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________ ______ Message: 691-001 Subject: depressing I have a long conversation with someones mother over the phone. the whole time i think it is my friends mom. i tell her about my life and that its depressing and tell her about loss. she cries and cries. later, i go to work and am going to clock in. my manager stops me and i realize at that moment i was talking to her mother on the phone, not my friends. she fires me. i tell her, i didnt know, i wouldnt have said that stuff if i knew it was her. i am now in a sort of suv. i am in the back seat and all my managers are in the car, driving me away. i lose it, i tell them they dont appreciate how hard i have worked and i have done all of this for them and they dont care about me at all etc etc and vent about how unfair this is, that i have sacrificed my life to make them happy and have worked extra hard, and i feel so cheated in life at that moment. i get out of the vehicle in a parking garage and i go to a telephone and call over to my friends house. i leave a multitude of messages because i get the answering machine. later i am at my friends house. i find out he moved out a year ago and is living in another state, and i think, oh yeah, thats right, he did move out. i go down to the basement and it is cluttered with some of his stuff. i decide it is best to sleep there, since it is so late. i see a phone and its blinking, i press the button and i hear myself, the messages i left, and they are nothing but depressing sounding, like 'hi. this is me. i just wanted to say hi. i really need to talk to somebody right now, i wish you were there.' i cant even remember them at this point. Comments: __________________________________________________________________ ______ Message:691-002 Subject: my reoccuring dreams some reoccuring dreams: it's dark outside. i'm in a place that is a combination of cities and places i've been in life and been in dreams. i have no idea where to go or how to get there. usually i am on a bus and it makes stops all over and then i'm on a ferry boat over water and have to jump to a small little boat that is passing, and make it just in time or fall into turbulent waters. i end up somewhere at the end of a long bridge. i wait for a bus and it doesnt come so i end up walking and walking. past a forever long train, this is where other people appear and they are all foreign or its me that is foreign. sometimes i'm in the train, but when i am, it is either in outer space or underground. lots of small hills and sloping streets. when i go inside a complex, it is huge, bigger than any indoor complex on earth. also houses in dreams are forever big and i get lost inside them and usually cant find my way back out, at least the same way i got in. and when that happens i feel i have lost something important about myself, such as originality or control over my life. i wake up flustered and depressed because of this. Other places: Places I have lived. Apartments, that I go back and revisit (which are places I've never actually been before in my waking life). there are a few different ones. Some are way far back, and the lights dont work. Though I find old clothes that I believe belong to me, though I can't remember. - I have a few theories as to these apartment dreams but i still am unsure of what they are all about. apartments are in: remote places. cold or seemingly lost environments, strange parts of a town that in reality would not normally exist. one apartment, i can only get in through the window. another one: dreams of a friend of mine from childhood. this is the most frequent, and each one is more intense then the last. its got to the point that in the dream i tell him, "I had a dream that I ran into you just last night! And in that dream I had ANOTHER ream that I ran into you! And now finally I actually am seeing you for real!" Its driving me crazy. Comments: __________________________________________________________________ ______ Message: 692-001 [ed.note: post removed – non-dream content] __________________________________________________________________ _____ Message: 695-001 Subject: Re: MAKE YOURSELF HAPPY DON'T FOLLOW IN ANOTHERS FOOTSTEPS you had such a long dream that there's a lot to take in. so i came up with a few more conclusions and better ones. the control panel in your dream: u want desperately to have control over your life but u don't feel it's within your grasp. u feel u don't have enough time and there's too many distractions. u want help but don't know where to find it. u feel lost. who's blood is on the stairs? who's footsteps r u following in? dead relative??? who r u trying to make happy rather than making yourself happy?? u have to ask yourself questions to gain further knowledge of dreams. dreams r just symbols that interpret something we already know but r afraid to acknowledge or it gets us to ask ourselves questions we wouldn't otherwise think of to ask ourselves. dreams don't lie! __________________________________________________________________ ______ Message: 695-002 Subject: Re HI THIS IS MY SLIGHTLY WOEFULL INTERPRETATION OF DREAM U SENT ME hi i got your dream and usually when people drink that much water is means their on a diet and i don't know i think the unknown enemy might be u. i think there r certain areas of your life that u think r stagnating and the diet is only one of the things u wanna change about your life. they say the body is your temple. which means that the house could represent your body. or did u say ship i can't go back and then finish this letter. i'm sorry. i'm just happy that everyone is writing me. u also watch too many horror and action movies dear. feel free to send me any other dream u want and i will try my best to help u even if i am inadequate at doing so. i don't know i'm trying to help. i figured that's the reason u sent it to me. __________________________________________________________________ ______ Message: 696-001 Subject: in the dark 11/12/03 I am in a house that is my parents house. The surrounding environment is a loop of sorts, that i can only call a tour-of- subconscious. i can only compare it, to a giant park with exhibits here and there, and a road with a tour bus that goes around. at night there isnt supposed to be anyone outside (like the movie westworld). there is maintenance done at night, which i notice at a point when i am trapped outside, lost somewhere. at this point i observe people spraying leaves or dirt on an area, to make it look authentic. i remember wandering around, searching, in the dark, because there is no light. A vehicle with people encounters me, and takes me back to the house I was in before. It is so dark. There is an upstairs area, where I am trying to get the lights working. I recall trying different things to get them to work (not sure what they were anymore). I get them to work, but they are so dim it isnt even close to being good enough. I go down the stairs, and I find my parents. I ask them, (because they were out all this time, and they just got back) how do I turn the lights on? They tell me I can't because (I forgot why). The answer they give me is very indirect, I recall. I am only going to be comfortable when the lights turn on. And they never do. notes: I am leaving some major things out because I cant remember them. I've had numerous dreams with lights that dont work and being trapped in houses with lights that wont work. This was one of the more extensive dreams of this sort. Comments: __________________________________________________________________ ______ Message: 697-001 [ed.note: post removed – non-dream post] __________________________________________________________________ ______ Message: 698-001 Subject: Dreams I joined another group before realizing it was completely dead. I copied this from the other post - Currently I don't have a lot of time to keep a detailed journal, so this is something from an era when I had more time. I also belong to a lucid dream group, but I sometimes have to doubt the sincerity of some of the people there. The posts here seem more like real dreams. At least more like the kind of dreams I have (Maybe you should all be worried??). Anyway, here's one nights worth of insanity, from a while back... I was in the woods near where I live. The trees were strange – They were huge, the bark was grey and smooth, but knotted in many places. The trunks were really thick, and the branches were interwound. I went up a hill, and on top of the hill there was a cluster of big rocks - they were brown, and cube-like (like salt crystals, only brown, and the edges of the squares were rounded). I looked out from the top of the hill and I was in a large forest - there were trees (green) as far as I could see, and far away a large fairly smooth like a glacier. There was somebody else with me. I did not know him. We wanted to get to the rock to investigate it, but it was too far away. I started walking through the bushes, but soon there was ice everywhere. All the leaves had fallen and turned brown. The ice was like slush/ wet snow. I broke through it to my ankles then my knees, until I was wading through it. It was not cold, but we could not make it to the rock formation. -break- I was reading a book about psychology/behavior. It was a simple book, like something that might have been on a supermarket shelf. Not really worth paying attention too, I thought. There was a story in it about a woman, I think. Somebody had written, 'if you cared you would stop' - by someone who meant something. 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