E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Subscribe: electric-dreams-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: electric-dreams-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Subscribe Online: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electric-dreams o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Volume #10 Issue #2 February 2003 ISSN# 1089 4284 o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Download a cover for this issue! http://dreamgate.hypermart.net/ed-covers/ed10-2cov.jpg o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o C O N T E N T S ++ Editor's Notes ++ The Global Dreaming News Events - Updates - Reviews - More From Peggy Coats - www.DreamTree.com ++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange By Lucy Gillis ++ Article: Recording Your Dreams By Linda Lane Magallón ++ Article: A View from the Bridge Report on the World Dreams Peace Bridge By Jean Campbell ++ Article: Dreams of Expectant Mothers and Fathers Alan Siegel, Ph.D. ++ Dream: A Cosmic Novice By Stan Kulikowski II D R E A M S S E C T I O N : Volume #600 - #615 With Elizabeth Westlake and Harry Bosma D E A D L I N E : February 19th deadline for March 2003 submissions XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Post Dreams and Comments on Dreams to: http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple Send Dreaming News and Calendar Events to: Peggy Coats Send Articles and Subscription concerns to: Richard Wilkerson: o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Editor's Notes o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Welcome to the February 2003 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams and dreaming online. If you are new to dreams and dreaming, please join us on dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the resources you need. To join send an e to dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com If you have news items about dreams and dreaming for our news director, Peggy Coats, send them to her at web@dreamtree.com Lucy Gillis offers a selection from the Lucid Dream Exchange this month on people's various flying dreams. Three dreamers give three vary different experiences of flying in lucid dreams. Linda Magallón continues her excerpts from "How to Fly." Last month she looked deeply into the first part of capturing a dream, the first moments of recall. This month, the in-depth investigation is extended to the dreamer's most important tool, a dream journal. Linda gives a wide variety of suggestions on how to use the journal for recall and compares various journal methods and techniques in "Recording Your Dreams." Jean Campbell continues to be a key player in 21st Century dream activism and this month has an update from the most active online project, the World Dreams Peace Bridge. In "A View from the Bridge" Jean describes current projects and how you can participate. There is also information about the website worlddreamspeacebridge.org We are very fortunate to have with us this month Alan Siegel, Ph.D. Alan has a new book out, _Dream Wisdom: Uncovering Life's Answers in Your Dreams_. Published in January 2003 by Ten Speed/Celestial Arts Press, Berkeley, CA., Dream Wisdom offers a developmental framework for understanding dreams through the life cycle by focusing on dreams during life's important turning points and crises. In the article below you will get a peek into one of these areas where Alan discusses expectant parent's dreams. From emotional sonograms to rehearsal preparations, Alan's original research provides the oneiric tools for expectant parents and dreamworkers counseling them. I also want to call attention to Alan's new website, as he offers a wide variety of article on dreams, nightmares, dream journaling and more. www.dreamwisdom.info Readers liked having a single dream brought out of the Dream Section and presented in the articles area, so I think we will continue that throughout 2003. Various dreamers may be featured, but for now, Stan Kulikowski's dream recordings stand out and I would like to feature them. You can find previous dreams of his in past issues under his name in the Dream Section. Be sure to read his 1-25 dream: "A Cosmic Novice" Related to the dream cards, we are still trying a Cover Comments project. We didn't get responses on this last month, so I'm going to re-think how we can do this. Basically, it is a chance for you, the dreaming readers, to use the covers from Electric Dreams as Dream Cards. We can do this several ways. Send me your ideas. The first cover offered is last month's: http://dreamgate.hypermart.net/ed-covers/ed10-1cov.jpg Cover artist: Lisa Rasmussen, Title: "Moon Dance" Take a look at the cover and interpret it as if it were your dream. Send those comments to me at rcwilk@dreamgate.com The Dream Section, beautifully edited by Elizabeth Westlake [with the help of Harry Bosma's editor program], is full of dreams sent in to us over the last month. Ex-boyfriends, psychiatrists, cats, unicorns, running in other dimensions... be sure to read the dream section! If you have dreams you want published, don't send them to Elizabeth directly, but rather enter them in the form at http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple Or you can put them in the dream flow directly by subscribing to: dream-flow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com We don't send the cover with the e-zine, but you can view, download and print up a copy anytime at: http://dreamgate.hypermart.net/ed-covers/ed10-2cov.jpg -------------------- For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to stop by one of the many resources: http://www.dreamtree.com http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library -------------------- Planning to join the 2003 ASD International Dream Conference in Berkeley? Be sure to register early! http://www.asdreams.org/2003 -Richard Wilkerson /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S February 2003 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats, web@dreamtree.com. Visit Global Dreaming News online at http://www.dreamtree.com/ This Month's Features: NEWS - Online Dream Course by Gayle Delaney - New Dream Book by William Domhoff - "Dream Wisdom" by Alan Siegel - Get ready for 2003 Conference on Dreams! - Dreams on Spanish speaking TV - Dreams Exhibition - Lila Koufopoulou - Womens' Weekend Dream Retreat - Bay Area WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES - The Dreaming Eye - Book O'Dreams - Ancient Dream Book Exhibit Online - Dream Wisdom site offers articles DREAM CALENDAR for February 2003 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< N E W S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>>> All About Dreams - Online Dream course from Gayle Delaney, Ph.D. http://educate.barnesandnobleuniversity.com/educate/bn/home/catalog/overview.jsp?productId=8559&userid=2TBNDAQVX2&nhid=bn This thought-provoking course will help you learn to be a Dream Interviewer -- someone who knows how to ask the right questions rather than relying on the standard "one-size-fits-all" dream dictionary. You will liberate yourself from psychological dogmas, and learn to look before you leap to an interpretation. When you know how to look and listen carefully, your dreams will become clear statements of your deepest insights. Course Price: $19.95 Prerequisites A wild curiosity about dreams A sense of humor about the difficulties of being human The desire to tap the Sherlock Holmes within Description Every night you have several dreams; unlocking their secrets can help you to better understand your motivations, your potential, and the obstacles you place in your own way. Understanding your dreams can also help you make better decisions, form better relationships, and deal with childhood, sexual, career, and self-esteem issues. All About Dreams will help you learn to be a Dream Interviewer-someone who knows how to ask the right questions rather than relying on the standard "one-size-fits-all" dream dictionary. You will liberate yourself from psychological dogmas, and learn to look before you leap to an interpretation. When you know how to look and listen carefully, your dreams will become clear statements of your deepest insights. You will see how Dream Incubation can help you target and solve particular problems in your life. By using the steps and questions provided in the textbook and the course exercises, you will learn to take advantage of the highly personal meanings of common dream images as well as those of recurring dreams and nightmares. You can practice Dream Interviewing and Dream Incubation by yourself or you can form "dream partnerships" with other classmates. What a great opportunity to meet others who are just as fascinated by dreaming as you are! Audience: This course is for anyone who is curious about dreams. The lessons and exercises are appropriate for both novice dream interpreters and those with more experience. This course is great for artists, writers, lawyers, and scientists who would like to tap into their dream-generated inspiration to problem solve more efficiently. Therapists and dream group leaders and members who want to hone their interpretive skills are also welcome. Objectives Use dreams to make more informed decisions that affect your daily life Recall your dreams more vividly and more often Recall a dream that deals with an issue of concern to you Interview yourself about your dream Interview other dreamers and help them to understand their dreams Understand at least some of your recurring dreams Celebrate your liberation from hopelessly general dream interpretations Find the specific meanings of a good number of your dream images Course Materials All About Dreams In Your Dreams: Falling, Flying, and Other Dream Themes Course Creator(s) Gayle Delaney Gayle Delaney, Ph.D., is a pioneer in modern dream work. She is the best-known author in the field of dream interpretation and incubation. Founding president of the Association for the Study of Dreams, and co-director (with Loma K. Flowers, M.D.) of the Delaney & Flowers Dream Center in San Francisco, she is the author of many books and is a popular guest on such shows as Oprah, NBC Nightly News, Today Show, and Good Morning America. >>>>> New Dream Book by William Domhoff G. William Domhoffs new book, entitled The Scientific Study of Dreams: Neural Networks, Cognitive Development and Dream Content, has just been published by the American Psychological Association. It presents a new neurocognitive theory of dreaming by building on recent work in neuropsychology and neuroimaging, and then adding the laboratory work on the gradual development of dreaming in children and the results of dozens of content analysis studies of the dreams of adults, including adult dream journals. Information on the book and a sample chapter can be found on the American Psychological Association web site at: http://www.apa.org/books/431688A.html >>>>>Dream Wisdom - New Book by Alan Siegel, Ph.D. Dreams are a resource the mind offers every night. This book demonstrates how to use dreams and nightmares as a source of insight and practical healing during life's turning points and crises beginning in childhood and throughout the normal passages of the lifecycle and the unexpected crises and traumatic events. Our dreams and even our worst nightmares can offer a source of guidance and inner wisdom at critical times in our lives, such as after an accident, illness, loss of a family member, or a traumatic event like the attack on the World Trade Center and during normal life transitions such as forming or ending a relationship, making career changes, during pregnancy, and mid-life crises. Alan Siegel's "Dream Wisdom" explains how dreams can be a source of special insight and healing during life's transitions. Using more that 140 actual "turning point" dreams as examples, Siegel helps the reader to use dreams as a window into hidden needs, unconscious feelings and unexplored wisdom, which can enhance the ability to understand and resolve life's major challenges. "Dream Wisdom" teaches how to develop a sense of confidence and expertise in working with your own dreams. The notion that dream work requires an expert analyst is often an unnecessary barrier. Siegel teaches you to work with dreams using your own intuition and self-knowledge. Through examples, suggestions, and exercises, the reader learns how to search for emotional links between turning points she is experiencing and the people, places, activities and feeling in her dreams. This practical and highly entertaining book offers a deep source of guidance for anyone hoping to better deal with times of personal crisis or critical change. ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Alan Siegel, Ph.D. is an adult and child psychologist who practices psychotherapy and assessment and is Assistant Clinical Professor, at the University of California, Berkeley. A pioneer in dream work with 30 years of teaching and publishing on dream-related topics, he is a past president of the Association for the Study of Dreams and Editor-Emeritus of their magazine, Dream Time. He was the Creative Consultant for the award-winning HBO video, Goodnight Moon and Other Sleepy Time Tales and his commentaries on post-9-11 nightmares, children's dreams, and dreams interpretation have been featured on NBC's Today Show as well as CNN News, PBS, NPR, the Associated Press, and the Discovery Channel's The Power of Dreams series. He lives with wife and two daughters in the Bay Area. Published by Ten Speed/Celestial Arts: ISBN 1-58761-158-9 www.dreamwisdom.info >>>>> 20th Annual International Conference of the Association for the Study of Dreams June 27 - July 1, 2003 Berkeley, California Dreaming by the Bay - Over 100 events over five days, including workshops, papers, panels, symposia, art, and multimedia shows! DREAM FILM FESTIVAL: At this year's conference, ASD will offer an expanded dream film festival ( we supply the popcorn!) with nearly continuous showings of feature and documentary films. With the help of dream film gurus, Drs. Bernard Welt, Deirdre Barrett, Jim Pagel, and Kelly Bulkeley, ASD will offer commentaries, symposia, and even repeat showings of popular dream-oriented films ranging from Le Guin's, The Lathe of Heaven, to Bunuel, Hitchcock, Sayles, Dr. Suess, the Rugrats, Star Trek episodes and much more. Highly requested documentaries such as the Wise Old Dog, The Power of Dreams, and Goodnight Moon will also be included. SUNSET DREAM CRUISE ON THE BAY: As a special treat at this year's conference, ASD will offer a cruise on the San Francisco Bay. From a dock, right at the hotel, you will set sail into the sunset to savor the spectacular views, and the sights and sounds of the bay. This is a rare opportunity to share an evening with friends and colleagues from the conference. CE PROGRAM: ASD will be offering 30 Continuing Education (CE) Credits from the ASD Dream Studies Continuing Education Program which will include in-depth clinical and interpretive workshops with Deirdre Barrett, Ph.D.; Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D.; Ernest Hartmann, M.D. Alan Siegel, Ph.D.; Roger Knudson, Ph.D., Paul Lippman, Ph.D. ; Rev. Jeremy Taylor, D. Min. BOOK SALES AND AUTHOR SIGNINGS: Browse through dream-related books and obtained personalized signed copies from world-famous authors. JURIED ART EXHIBIT: The deadline for submitting work to the 2003 Dream Art Show is March 1, 2003. Artists may submit up to ten slides of their work. For more information check the ASD web site, E-mail Richard Russo, M.A. at RR@Well.Com or send a SASE to Richard Russo, 835 Peralta St. Berkeley, CA 94707. HOT OFF THE PRESS RESEARCH: The conference will include one or more "Hot-off-the-Press" sessions, during which individuals will be given five minutes to present recent research findings. 2003 CONFERENCE COMPUTER CAFE The online 2003 Computer Cafe will offer quick access to many conference events and presentations, including the 2003 Dream Art Exhibit, Presentation Abstracts, Conference Program Schedules and the Annual Dream Telepathy Contest. You can access the cafe via the 2003 Conference website at http://www.asdreams.org/2003 >>>> Dreams on Spanish Speaking TV http://www.psicologiaprofunda.com/ Dr. Sven Doehner will have a weekly segment on DREAMS on the program HOY, on Televisa's channel 2, every Tuesday at 9:30 in the morning (approximately) - and you can see our web page (in Spanish) at: www.psicologiaprofunda.com >>>>> Dreams Exhibition - Lila Koufopoulou Lila Koufopoulou will soon be launching a sponsorship program concerning her website: www.lilakoufopoulou.gr Lila's artworks are based on the concept of "MIND & SPIRIT". Her most recent visual art trilogy is called "Trilogy About Soul" and its 3rd part is called "DREAMS." Her DREAMS are suitable to decorate hotels, resorts, spas, banks, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and other social or private places that want to give peace and spirit to the soul of the visitor. According to "Deepmetrix Corporation" analysis, her three galleries -which include video-art, paintings and poems-, attracted 427 visitors just the first 25 days of January 2003, and made 4,739 hits worldwide! Sponsoring categories will be: Golden Sponsors ( 2.000 euros), Silver Sponsors ( 1.500 euros) and Bronze Sponsors ( 1.000 euros). All sponsors will be given 30%-20%-10% discount for each purchase of her paintings, according to the sponsorship category, For further information and applications, please, contact Ms. Lila Koufopoulou: Hyperlink mail to: info@lilakoufopoulou.gr >>>>>>>> Men and Women's Dream Day By the Bay Lorraine Almeida, MFA Saturday, February 1, 2003 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. (bring bag lunch. Water and teas provided) 18856 Hwy One, Marshall, CA (415) 663-8622 lorraine@svn.net Lorraine Almeida, MFA leads a day of dreamwork and creative expression. It is an opportunity to make conscious the unconscious by beginning to understand the language of metaphors. Dreams speak in the ancient ways of the psyche; the archetypal, poetic images of art forms. Dreams and Art speak in a universal language that can help in the service of health and wholeness. Cost for Workshop is $50. Limited to 10 people. Call or email for reservation and directions. *************************** Women's Weekend Dream Retreat Sat. Feb 15 and Sun. Feb 16, 2003 (same structure as above) overnight accommodation provided Workshop and accommodation are $150 total. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< W E B S I T E & O N L I N E U P D A T E S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< Do you know of interesting new websites you'd like to share with others? Or do you have updates to existing pages? Help spread the word by using the Electric Dreams DREAM-LINK page www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/online97.htm. This is really a public projects board and requires that everyone keep up his or her own link URLs and information. Make a point to send changes to the links page to us >>>>The Dreaming Eye http://www.thedreamingeye.com/ The Dreaming Eye is the website for artist and writer Alice Egoyan. Since early childhood, dreams have been the source of her creativity and a search to understand other states of consciousness. Ms. Egoyan currently works as a freelance artist and her work has been featured on the cover of alternative magazine Carpe Noctem, the cover for the book 'Dreams, Nightmares and Tales of the Future' by Dogu Yücel-published in Istanbul, Turkey , a CD cover and booklet for independent musical artist Releveler, and in 1998 one of her digital artworks was presented in a special show at the Fresno Art Museum. She was also a finalist in the recent Online Symbolist Art Show entitled 'The Dreamer and the Dreamed'. >>>> Book O' Dreams by Scott McLoud http://www.dreamscott.com Explore 30 years of dreams from one man's brain. Scott's dream journal includes helpful illustrations, pictures, links, and commentary. The online version has been running since 1999. No analysis, but dreams given context. >>>>>Ancient Dream Book Exhibit Online Sigmund Freud wrote that "In later antiquity Artemidorus of Daldis was regarded as the greatest authority on dream-interpretation ..." Now you can take a look at pictures of the original books at the US National Library of Medicine website http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/greek/greek_artemidorus.html >>>>> Dream Wisdom site offers articles http://www.dreamwidsom.info The new Dream Wisdom site from Dr. Alan Siegel is partially a site to promote his new book Dream Wisdom, but also offers chapters from the book and chapters from previous books as well as other important dream documents, such as a free quick training course on dreams and PTSD. The Dream Wisdom articles are for both parents and children, and include the basics in dream recall and memory as well as how to handle nightmares. More articles will be appearing in the next few months. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< D R E A M C A L E N D A R February 2003 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< JURIED ART EXHIBIT: The deadline for submitting work to the 2003 Dream Art Show is March 1, 2003. Artists may submit up to ten slides of their work. For more information check the ASD web site, E-mail Richard Russo, M.A. at RR@Well.Com or send a SASE to Richard Russo, 835 Peralta St. Berkeley, CA 94707. Men and Women's Dream Day By the Bay Lorraine Almeida, MFA Saturday, February 1, 2003 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. (bring bag lunch. Water and teas provided) 18856 Hwy One, Marshall, CA (415) 663-8622 lorraine@svn.net End News <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange By Lucy Gillis o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o We feature all types of lucid dreams in the LDE, but we also like to set aside some room for particular dream themes. Below is a selection from readers who shared their techniques and experiences with the current theme, Flying Lucid Dreams. Robert Waggoner, Many Kinds of Flying.... August 5-6 02 (Note: There has been some research done on the sensation of rocking and its effect on the vestibular system and a subsequent increase in lucid dreaming. At the beginning of this dream, please note that the "rocking" is occurring "in" the dream and then leads to lucidity. I have noticed this in many of my lucid dreams. It may suggest that as far as our vestibular system is concerned, "mental rocking is just as good as physical rocking". So the next time you want to make another character in the dream lucid like you, then rock 'em.) Wendy and I are in a small plane -- the pilot is horrible -- we are coming in for a landing in a thunderstorm, so we swoop and swerve all over, dodging electric lines and trees! Finally we land and get out. As we begin to walk in the dusky night, I sense that the setting is just "too dreamy". Then I become convinced. I tell Wendy, "Let's fly! I'll show you how," and I grab her arm and we fly about 50'. We do this a few more times. She keeps getting better each time. I finally tell her that to fly well when lucid, you have to "see yourself where you want to be." I point to a car, and say, "see yourself there and then fly, it's easier." I joke with her and we laugh about it. We go through a gate and into a beautiful garden -- it is almost like a mini-paradise. I wonder if this scene is a reflection of my happy mood or has some other meaning. We walk into a scene of some guys setting up something by a wall. I decide to try an old trick and so I announce, "All of those who are mental forms, disappear!" But I am surprised that they don't disappear since this has worked in times past. Instead they look at me over their shoulders. I keep moving. We go farther. I tell this one guy who looks like Robin Williams that I want to know all there is about flying in dreams. He says dryly, "Not that Superman kind of flying stuff." I say, "Yes." He shakes his head and explains, "You have got to understand that there are many different kinds of flying." He pauses. "There's jungamon, hugamon, and tagamon flying and there's...." (he continues with about four more odd names). He tries to make a point that different types of lucid flying are required for different types of lucid environments, and that it is best to use the most appropriate one. Superman flying seems to be a very modest level. He goes on with more information about using thoughts, mental mentations, and flying. He has a helper who looks a bit like Craig Webb. We walk into a banquet area. I see some nice dishes and yogurt and strawberries, etc. The Craig-guy grabs some. A young wait staff woman looks at me and then says to another, "Is he the one?" The other gives her a look as if to say, "Don't spoil it." Then the Robin-looking guy says that he has some very interesting things for me - that he will reveal more than ever before. He keeps announcing his 'mystery' in different ways until I begin to wonder, if he really has any knowledge to share. (Gets a bit fuzzy here.) Somehow I fly off or begin to see a small electrical device with cords, and there are two people lying there nearby. They seem to be sleeping or unconscious. As I wonder what to do next, I can hear our cat in 'waking reality' - it keeps pushing on the door, and I begin to have a false awakening of writing this dream down - then it bangs again and I awake. Shirley Hadley Flying Dream 10-25-98 I was standing with these two women looking at this house. It was night-time and the house was dark. They were talking about wanting to go into this house. They were afraid to. So I spoke up and said, "I am not afraid, I will go in there and see what is going on." So in I went. The house was empty, except for this one room. As I approached the doorway I saw this brilliant glowing light. Hanging from the ceiling was this most amazing spiraling light form of energy. I went up to it and merged myself with it. I felt myself expanding. I grew and grew, so huge that my energy flowed out of the house and into the surrounding landscape. I spoke these words, "We all create our own realities". My voice was so loud and booming that it sent reverberating echoes out over the land. Then I withdrew from the spiraling energy form and walked back outside. I was so excited that I went over to the two ladies and picked them up in my arms and flew them all over the sky. I was singing to them and just so joyful to be able to comfort them and to be flying with such ease and playfulness. Once again there was not one particular part of the experience where I suddenly became lucid. I knew from the beginning of the dream that I was creating it. Once you grasp that full realization, that you indeed not only create your life, but also every aspect of your dreams, then you understand that there really is no part of you that is unconscious or not aware. You are always in a lucid state of "beingness". Craig Webb Vibrant Senses 2002-10-23 At home in what seems it might be my childhood home yet the window on the room I'm in is like the room where I am sleeping, yet I don't really wait around long enough to tell for sure because I spontaneously begin to go lucid. To confirm it's a dream, I lean partially out through the front wall and window, tentatively knowing that if I don't pass through the wall/window then it's not a dream, but if I do, I won't have to worry because I can fly (interesting logic). Obviously, the latter happens and it feels great to be fully lucid and flying. I swoop down to feel the grass with my hands and feet and enjoy the visual clarity of these black and red pots or pieces of cookware that are there in the green grass. I take in the colors. I even stick my face down into the grass and feel it against my cheek, and breathe in and enjoy the fresh smell of it. The scent is not super strong but I can definitely smell it. I leap up and fly again, wondering how much time before the dream ends as I fly around over the community. Then I notice a woman flying in the opposite direction and so I think that it would be great to go and meet or call in a friend or two to the dream. But first, I decide to meet whoever it is who went by. It's someone I vaguely recognize and she's a pretty young woman, maybe even with slight elements of old friend Janet R. from where I used to work in my teens. We meet and embrace a bit and there is a slight composite character element with my new friend C. Anyway, she tentatively starts to sit on my lap, and there doesn't seem to be any sexual energy. I encourage her to go ahead and sit down, and we feel a lot of joy to be hugging and hanging out together as the dream fades. ******** The Lucid Dream Exchange is a quarterly newsletter featuring lucid dreams and lucid dream related articles, poetry, interviews, and book reviews. To subscribe to The Lucid Dream Exchange send a blank email to: TheLucidDreamExchange-subscribe@yahoogroups.com or join through the Yahoo Groups website at http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheLucidDreamExchange ******** o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Recording Your Dreams (c) 2003 Linda Lane Magallón (Excerpted from "How To Fly") o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o A dream is a personal document, a letter to oneself. Calvin Hall Once you are able to recall your flying dream, what then? Will you remember your experience this evening, next week or a year from now? Perhaps your breakfast companions will help you perpetuate the memory. But if they listen with half an ear, like my family does, I wouldn't count on it. Instead it's best to make a record of the dream. There are some folks who just draw or paint their dreams. However, artistic renderings usually capture but a few symbols or a single scene and can take a lot of time. One dreamer I know acts out the dream as best she can, but this restricts memory mainly to gesture. Another dreamer I know uses a tape recorder. Unfortunately, locating a particular dream later can be a problem. Do you fast forward or rewind? Most folks find a written record to be the richest, most accessible and stable method for the long term. At first, it's best to record every dream you can remember, until it becomes a habit you can easily return to, like riding a bicycle. Here are some advantages of a written record: 1) Handwriting mimics the "flow" of the dream. Dreams are rarely just symbol snapshots; they tend to be movies, instead. Simply putting pen to paper can evoke the sequence of events that eludes us if we try to remember everything at once. 2) Writing is yet another memory review. It adds the tactile element: the movement of our hands help "fix" recall in cellular memory. We will be able to remember with our body, not just our brain. 3) The process of writing helps organize our thoughts about the dream. New insights can appear, ideas and connections will occur and these become clues to understanding the content of the dream. 4) If we wake up in the middle of the night and do not write down our dreams, we may not recollect them when we reawaken in the morning. 5) The hard copy provides the opportunity for later review, which can be invaluable for dream sharing, dream analysis and discovering psychic elements. Making A Written Record I'm amazed that some dreamers seem to be able to record all their dreams perfectly, the first time, exactly as they recall them, in a nice bound book with few additions and mistakes. Or directly onto a typewriting page or an e-mail memo. They must have much better memory and more patience than I do! Sometimes I wonder if they are recording only simple dreams...or perhaps their reports are generalizations, lacking the details? When complexity is at a minimum, when the dream progresses in coherent form, I, too, can review the whole dream, scene by scene. In that case, the dream story will flow from my pen as final copy, no corrections required. But I must admit that most of my initial dream reports are, to put it nicely, rough drafts. I like to record my dreams curled up under the covers with a legal pad balanced on my knees. I grab out of memory what I can recall and write it down. The first go-round can miss things. It tends to be quick glances and phrases rather than a complete story narrative. And I'm not the only dreamer who sometimes records the dream backwards, last scene first. Dreams On Computer Do these rough drafts get transformed into a legible record that I'm willing to share with others? Sometimes yes and sometimes no. It depends on how motivated I am and how much time I have to convert to sequential narrative. When I do make the move to computer, I'll often keep both versions, in case there's something I've overlooked in the transition. At one point I experimented with a data base dream package that set up the dream as a drama. It had location, characters, action and so forth. That was fine for my regular dreams, but when it came to the unusual, like imageless dreams and hypnogogia, it didn't fit at all. So I finally gave up trying to put my square pegs into round holes. I ignored the standard classifications and created my own. When recording methods and materials threaten to limit your dreams, make sure your dreams win the day. There is one important thing a text-based software doesn't provide: large margins for drawings and doodles. After all, signs, symbols and scenery are basically visual images. It may be that a verbal description won't capture what a quick sketch can do. Then, you might draw dream objects, dream characters or maps of dream locations. Detailing The Dream Some Basic Elements In Dream Reports 1) Scenery and props 2) Characters 3) Action (including reading) 4) Overall context (story or theme) 5) Sounds (including conversations) 5) Taste and tactile sensations 6) Feelings, moods and emotions 7) Thoughts, ideas, intuition, memories and instincts Over time, I've found that the most difficult things for me to recall are the verbal and the written. I've noticed that fellow dreamers have trouble in this area, too. Our dream reports tend to say, "The woman talks about...X" rather than using exact quotes from the woman's conversation. Since the words I read in the dream or audio statements dissipate most easily, if they are present, I'll concentrate on remembering them first. And then, when I unfreeze and begin to move around in bed, I'll grab my paper pad and write those words down. Only then do I begin recording the dream scenes. Once, a dreamer told me, "I really feel like I'm missing out on something if I just record, 'I go to the store and buy three apples and go home.'" I replied that I sometimes record a dream this way: "The man comes into the room and says 'Hello' to me." I continued telling him that at other times, I record a dream this way: "The back of the blue and white Victorian faces south. Through the arched doorway, ambles a fellow with the feeling tones of my grandfather and my current boss. At about six feet four, he looms over me, but his informal clothing make me feel at home. He wears faded blue overalls and a plaid shirt in soft earth tones. Underneath a mop of long, blonde hair, his icy blue eyes stare at me curiously. 'Hello, Linda, how are you?' he asks." It's the same essential event, but I've used two different ways to describe it. I prefer the latter, but if I went into that much detail with every single dream, I'd be writing forever. Instead, I do detail work on selected dreams, when I have the time. Especially with lucid dreaming and borderland experience, I am more aware of the subtleties of my dreams. There is more to remember and thus more to record. I think it's important to practice detailing at least some of your dreams. It's another "discipline" in observation and becoming aware of the fullness, the richness and the diversity in any dream. Try recording a dream vignette in vivid detail every once in a while. Again, freeze frame the dream and dredge up the feeling tones. As I'm pulling up the information, I sometimes get a sense of the periphery or background of the dream. For example, in the dream above, I could perceive that someone else was standing next to me. Who was it? And what was happening around us? If I try to play with the sensation of the dream, I might determine that there were more folks in the room than just the man and me. Ah, yes, there were several people - male, female, young and old. And, we were gathered for a meeting. Dream air-obics starts to stretch your awareness, and again it's a real paradox. You begin by concentrating on one thing, yet to do so, you pull energy from the corner of your mind so that it, too, comes further into the center of your awareness. While general exercise of the mind muscles is great for general health, there is a specific practical reason to pay attention to detail. It's dream analysis. Factual recording features nouns first, then action verbs. But it can miss adjectives and adverbs. Without description detail (like color), overall feeling-tone or specific emotions, important clues to unlock the meaning or source of the dream may elude you. Reading the report of an experienced recorders opened my eyes to elements I'd not been including...such as 1) What I look like or am wearing 2) Which direction I am going 3) How high or far away an object is 4) What the weather is like 5) How I react to what I am observing 6) How the other characters are acting or reacting to me Dream recording is a skill that requires both memory and ability to put down what you recall. It's a skill that can improve, as you discover story elements and details that you may have previously ignored. And remember, not all dreams are visual. You might awaken with just the sound of rushing wind, a blissful feeling or the vivid sensation of floating. I sometimes awake knowing that I have been thinking a lot. If any sort of image forms, it's of words on a page: a phrase, a sentence. Or, I seem to be moving blocks of information around, just like I do on the computer. Most likely, I've just left a non-REM sleep period. Converting the abstract to language can be a real challenge! Tensed Dreams Can you tell the difference between these two dreams? I am in Lima, Peru on the ocean with a camera. I'm trying to get a perfect shot and not drop the camera in the ocean. I ride the crest of the waves. I keep setting up the shot but the timing is off. I want to click it at the crest of the wave, but I keep missing the shot. CH, California I was swimming in the sea. The sea was blue green and deep blue in the distance, the bottom sandy, the water cool and clear, the sky clear blue. The wind was whipping up small waves. BW, Athens, Greece One dream is written in present tense; the other in past tense. In the first, the dreaming self is in the middle of the action, playing a starring role in the movie. The other is more detached. It's written from the point of view of a waking ego, trying to remember something that happened oh, so, far away and long ago. It's not designed to retrieve that distant memory and bring it to you *here.* When it comes to recording your dreams, I urge you to use the present tense. Writing a dream in present tense keeps it vibrant...not as vague understanding by the waking ego...but as the life of the dreaming self. As one of my dream characters told me, "The time is now!" Thinking and writing in present tense keeps us close to the living dream. Sometimes the dream refers back to what happened before the current scene. In that case, I use the past tense to indicate my dreaming self's good memory of things that I, as a waking ego, may not be aware. Day Notes I always use past tense when I write what happened the previous day. To differentiate my waking ego voice from the "voice" of my dreaming self, I try to place most notes below the dream proper. I once had a dream about leaping a fence. After recording it, I wrote my quick associations: (Note: Yesterday I was hiking in the woods, when I saw a similar fence. I was thinking about an article I'm going to write about the upcoming conference.) If I insert comments within the dream text, I'll use parentheses and the past tense to alert me that this item didn't occur until after the dream ended. For instance, it wasn't until *after* I woke that I decided the man in my dream looked like my friend Bob: The man (reminded me of Bob Trowbridge) walks with me to the fence. If you try to understand a dream long after it occurred, lack of day notes may mean you are unable to relate your dream elements to your waking life. This can be a block to either symbolic interpretation or literal recall. Titling A Dream Right after you finish recording your dream, you know the main symbols, the action and your immediate associations. Fine. Simply bring your pen back up to the top of the page and write them down. Voila! You've got a title. For example, I might call the above dream, "Bobbing and Leaping the Fence." Titling dreams is important for many reasons. At first, it provides a sense of completion. It's as if you have finished a chapter in a book and can now go on to the next story. Later, reading a well-crafted title will trigger memory of the full dream. It's a lot easier to find a titled dream a year, a month or even a week later. Titling is a very creative act, a kind of dream Haiku, where you take the essence of the dream and focus on it in the few words that form the title. Gleaning the essence can unlock the dream for interpretation. Sometimes, writing out the title releases the puns within. 1) Give Me a Brake (I'm going too fast, in danger of breaking up a relationship) 2) Pulling Dreamworkers Out of the Soup (I'm acting like a Mom with my dream group, trying to rescue them from troubled dreams) 3) Putting the U into Study (I put the subjective "You" into the objective "It," the study of dreams. I'm making dream study personal.) Timing The Dream In the past, dreamers would request my help in interpreting a dream. I'd ask them, "Well, when did you have that dream?" And they'd say, "I don't know. Maybe two or three weeks ago." Or, "A couple of years ago." Then I'd ask, "What was going on in your life when you had the dream?" Too often, they don't remember. If you want to crack the dream code, dates are often crucial. After recording your dream, I simply turn my head and look at the calendar that I have tacked to my bedroom wall. I could also look at my wristwatch. You don't have a calendar in view? Get one. I may not always have day notes within my dream record. But if I know the date, I can go to my personal engagement calendar (written or electronic) to discover what I was doing during waking life in the neighborhood of the dream date. Is the "dream date" the day you go to bed or the day you wake up? Some people use one, some the other. I use the day before, because that's when my preparation begins. The least confusing method can be to use both dates, such as "October 3-4." Dating the dream can be useful to indicate special occasions. Some folks keep track of moon phases and Astrological signs, too. Did you know that "The Day of Airborne Dreamers" is June 29th? So, have you ever had flying dreams on that night? You'll not be able answer to that question unless you've already put dates on your past dream reports. If you have a clock on your night stand, you can put down the time as well. Recording the time helped me determine the variance in types of dreams, like when I usually had nightmares and when I was most likely to have a lucid dream. Numbering the dreams let me know which type came first, which came afterwards, in any given night. If I record the dream backwards or most important scene first, numbering the paragraphs is crucial. There are many other things you might write with your dream report, but this is the bare minimum. 1. Title and date (and number, if more than one) 2. The text of the dream report 3. Day notes (if you have a quick idea about the dream) When You Wake Without A Dream What if you can't remember a full dream? Write down key words. The outline of the dream. The picture fragments. And if you can't recall any fragments? The thoughts, feelings or sensations just before you woke. And if you are a total blank? Initially, while you are developing the dream record habit, it's best to write down something every morning. You can... 1) Record how you slept. 2) Record the first feelings of the day. 3) Write down why you want to recall dreams. 4) Create an affirmation for dream recall. 5) Sketch a thought. But please don't record "No dreams." This is a self-defeating prophecy. Later, these pump-priming activities give way to the outflow of actual dreams. References Dee, N. The Dreamer's Workbook. (New York: Sterling Publishing, 1990). Garfield, P. Creative Dreaming. (New York: Ballantine Books, 1974). Koch-Sheras, P., E.A. Hollier, B. Jones. Dream On/A Dream Interpretation and Exploration Guide for Women. (Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey: Prentice-Hall, 1983). Magallón, L. L. Psychic-Creative Dreaming. (Internet course, 1997). Moss, R. Conscious Dreaming. (New York: Crown Trade Paperbacks, 1996). Roberts, J. How to Develop Your ESP Power. (New York: Frederick Fell Publishers, 1974). Wilkerson, R. C. "An Introduction to Dreamwork/Guidelines and Journal Keeping." (On-line document, 1998). http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html (Dream Flights) o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o A View from the Bridge Report on the World Dreams Peace Bridge Dreaming for Peace through the New Year Jean Campbell o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/monthyupdates.htm During the last days of 2002 and the first days of 2003, members of the World Dreams Peace Bridge journaled a huge lot of peace dreams. As the world's only ongoing group dreaming experiment, the Peace Bridge is also the most expressive long-term journaling group as well. I can hardly do justice here to the breadth and scope of over thirty dreamers, recording dreams over a three week period, from countries as far flung as Australia, Korea, the United States and German, but I will try. Because I suspect that these dreams may be the clearest expression we have of the World Dream, or the dreams for peace of people around the world. The cycle of year-end dreams began appropriately enough, with a dream from Victoria in Australia, who dreamed of a sweet little girl ghost who, she said, made her wonder if the Zeitgeist of the current time is not this child. Victoria's dream took place just before the December 21, 2002, Solstice, celebrated by Peace Bridge members joining others from around the world in the annual Planetary Dream, sponsored by Roger Ripert at Oneiros.com. The theme of the Planetary Dream in 2002 was World Peace, and dreams can be found at http://www.onieros.fr/dreams02.html For myself, the year-end dreams have contained a number of jokes, surprises, and verbal puns, something which seems to have been shared by others as well. In my own Solstice dream, I dreamed of a news reporter, who is depressed and frustrated because the newspaper he works for won't report the "good news." Then he realizes that he can publish a column on the Internet entitled "World Peace Is Free." When I reported this dream to dreamchatters, so Roger could put it online, I actually had a couple of people write back volunteering to write columns for this venture. Who knows what might happen? That same night, from Sweden, Juhani wrote: "I remember just a short snippet. My dream was something about two arguing Norwegians. I remember just that short snippet. The case was solved somehow in a peaceful way." Richard, in California, had a dream he called "Three Ways to Take Flight." Take a look at the last line for a possible planetary message. Maybe we need to learn a little more about flying. I'm at an ocean beach and it a delightful day, partially foggy. Many people are at the beach, but its not crowded. I have just come out of a hotel and am making my way down to the beach with some friends when we come across a group of people about to go para-sailing. A motor boat speeds along the shoreline a the flyer rises high up above the beach in a beautiful blue/purple sail. It looks less like a parasail than it does the kind of parachutes used by precision jumpers, more rectangular with puffy ridges. We learn that they are experimenting with various ways to fly. The group tries a second method , more like using the natural wind from the beach, like a hang-glider. The flyer runs along the beach until the wind catches the kite like sail and takes him up into the air. Soon a third experiment is in progress. This time a little rocket is attached to the back of a man and he holds a very stiff set of wings. We are all a bit concerned that the rocket will blow up or shoot him too fast across the beach, but soon he is flying just fine, and at this point I am the rocket man, flying across the beach with all the people getting smaller below me. Its quite exhilarating, though I wonder if these little stiff wings can carry me once the rocket fuel is out. end. But then came the most surprising Planetary Dream of all. Peace Bridge member, Nick, from Australia, reported on an ongoing lucid dream experiment, which has been taking place through his web site, Dream of Peace. Rather than interpret what he had to say, I'll give it to you in his own words: Planetary Team Dream For the last seven months I've been part of a group of dreamers, sharing dreams on a rather regular basis. We initially used email to communicate, and were spread around the world. This team is more than just a group for dream interpretation. The aim is to get people involved in the arts of active dreaming. The use of dreams, as a source of creativity, healing, to undertake group journeys and to recover previously unknown information. I am especially excited by the idea of teams of dreams working together with a common goal. Recently a second group was formed, with members from a dreaming forum known as Lucid Dreaming 4 All (ld4all.com). Some of the members mentioned in this story, are Explora (myself) from Melbourne, Australia; Pilot from the USA; Aydira from Michigan, USA; and Atheist from Canberra, Australia. A group normally has between 6-10 people, and involves contributing to discussion about 2-3 times a week. Anyone interested in joining a dream team can visit this page (www.spektral.com.au/dreamofpeace.net/dreamteams/) I am also a member of the World Dreams Peace Bridge (www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org), a much larger group discussing dreams and their role in bringing peace to the world. Here, I found mention of a project known as the Planetary dream (www.oniros.fr/PD02.html). The 2002 planetary dream 'is part of a new set of dreams related to the construction of the new age', and was to take place on the nights of the winter solstice in the northern hemisphere) I posted noticed this project of the forum, and although we had interesting dreams during these nights, it was not until Christmas Day (for Pilot and Aydira), and Boxing Day (for Explora) that we had these dreams. Looking at the content of the dreams though, there is no doubt that they had some relevance to the Planetary Dreams project. Pilots Dream: I was doing my homework in math in a small room in an apartment, and I received an email from LD4ALL which was a long article on the peace project for today. It was broken down into categories each lasting a few hours. For the first part we were supposed to imagine reality (what a missed dream sign!) and I found it strange and I didn't understand what I should be thinking of. The next part was to think of peace or something like that, and I was skeptical about its effectiveness yet determined to do it either way. Aydiras Dream: In the dream within the dream I was in that living room except there was no decorations. There was somesort of thing on the floor that i can't really describe. I, explora and Atheist were there and i think Pilot was also. the thing was like a um train somehow?... hmm well I'l have to try to explain it later when more coherent. I'm at a loss for words. We were sitting around it and we crawled around it, turning it with us, it reminded me of the earth sort of. I felt full of love. It had pictures on the inner circle of people in different countries including us on this team. I sat at the place for my part of the world and the others sat at theirs and we turned it. A bit later: I went over to the computer and then I was chatting with explora in a blue chat room. I was telling him about my Lucid Dream and i remember these words also one line after another: Hold (as in embracing someone.) Love. and then the word Acceptance (to explain the first word better) -- Now those are the words that make me thing of that weird train thing that i couldn't describe... Response from Pilot: I tend to think of the groups' dream sharing as a ball of light while visualizing everybody sitting around it, and energy flowing in and out of this energy ball and between each other. I also think of you guys in relation to your names and where you live as you sit in the circle. I'm not sure if this is the right thing to do but at least it gives me a way to focusing my intent to share dreams. Sounds very similar to a few things you've described in your dream. Explora's Dream I am talking to Aydira. I am speaking about using magic to will something to happen. How we can set our sights on a goal, and watch as gradually the way towards that goal is made. -- Explora http://www.dreamofpeace.net/ As if these wonderful Solstice dreams were not enough, I had to make the suggestion for a year-end Dream In to the World Dreams Peace Bridge. Kathy, from Australia, came through with the following suggestion: "And as for a Dream In, I'd love that. I was thinking yesterday about a Dream In I'd like to do. I'd like to dream support for all those people I consider create difficulties in the world (especially in relation to the war on Iraq). "Why? 1. I feel that all people have compassion within them 2. I feel that we can most easily find that compassion by being supported in being just who we are. "I know it is a bit difficult to give support to those I fear/dislike/am wary of, etc. And yet I really can't think of any better thing I can do now. They all will act whatever I do. How they act will depend upon all that has gone on before in their life, on their character, on their context, etc. To give them support (real support--no strings attached as to how I think they should act) is to allow them to expand beyond their habitual responses. This seems one possible approach to using dreams as a peace tool.... So what about a DREAM FOR PEACE: support for those we see as our enemies." The date was set for New Years, and the dreams poured in. What I will give you here is a sampling of them: Those of you who have read the paper "The World Dreams Peace Bridge as a Long-Term Group Journaling Project", which I presented at the ASD Conference in Boston in 2002 (available at The World Dreams Peace Bridge site World Dreams Peace Bridge - History ) might recall one of the initial dreams about the Peace Bridge, Jody's dream of growing the New Era Seeds. A new Peace Bridge member, Kat, seems to have carried through on the theme: I am planting seeds in my garden outside, digging lines in the soil, putting seeds in the ground and covering them up. I go inside my house. I am in my bedroom sitting on the bed. I look outside through my circular bubble window, and I can see the plants have grown, and they look like they have grown into the beginning of a Medicine Wheel. I see three statues in the center of the Medicine Wheel, and one of them is a Buddha statue facing me. I see it very clearly and I am fascinated by it. I get up from the bed and start putting little statues in every pot of potted plants in my room. Sharon, also from the United States, had a series of three or four dreams. Even though she had not read the message about the Dream In, she said, all of these dreams related to peace and conflict resolution. "I think the dreams had a specific message for me, and maybe a greater one for the world," she wrote to the Peace Bridge. "Ever since September 11th, I have had a hard time not becoming cynical, especially with the U.S. government. I am in tears when I take a moment to think how many bombs I have paid for with my taxes. I hate the thought of all the U.S. military actions being done in the names of U.S. citizens that have no interest in killing others. "So, for me, the dreams gave me hope. While on the surface, things may look very grim and bleak, something else, some sort of healing that I'm not aware of, may be going on under the surface. I just need to continue whatever I can do to take care of the world...whatever my small piece is. And, eventually, the healing will come to light. "Thank you for suggesting these dreamings. Now that I have a glimmer of hope, my intention this evening for peace and goodness and compassion for all will be a much stronger beacon." From Austria, Johanna wrote: I am in the court of a small house. It is the house of a dog breeder, an elderly strange woman. The garden is paved and there are kennels for the dogs. I go inside and walk upstairs to talk to the breeder. I tell her that she does not treat the dogs well! I am very angry at her. Not very peaceful, hmmm? Kathy herself recorded her second dream of the month taking place in "Aladdin's Cave". She writes: The Two Gifts Two gifts came to "me". They floated down from heaven and "I" reached up and received them. "I'm" on the island (of my Aladdin's Cave dream; but here it is covered in greenery and not in a cave but in the ocean). The first gift is a white slab wrapped in celophane. "I" spread it over the island and loveliness results. The second gift is a black slab. "I'm" surprised I can use it. "I" break it up into small squares (like chocolate) and also distribute it over the island. Again loveliness results. I'm aware after the dream that the "I" in my dream is hardly me at all - just a certain centre of awareness ???? which i aligned myself with??? (vague). Also I felt, after the dream, that the first gift was something like ozmocote (spelling?? a slow release fertilizer!!) and the second gift was really close to peat moss. I awoke three times in the night - found I'd forgotten the dream, remembered it again fell back to sleep and so on. What I did forget by the morning was the particular way in which loveliness appeared - I suspect the forgetting was itself part of the dream - perhaps because it occurs in so many different forms - and I have to find the particular form for me. And finally, May, who is originally from China, had what could be called the yin and yang of all dreams: OH! I suddenly become aware that this boy, about 14 or 15, has been in the neighborhood for quite some time. I've heard people saying how industrious he is, that he is working to save up money to go to college. I'm impressed. What he does is between a paper route and selling magazine subscriptions. I buy two "subscriptions" from him, one for myself and one for this middle aged wm whom I also suddenly realize has been a neighbor for a long time. The second part has only one image. I see a colorful round object like a roulette but lies flat on the table like a piece of cardboard. In the middle there is another circle. I notice there are two words "WISH", "WASH" alternately appearing in the center circle. EOD Later, May commented, "I thought the WISH/WASH meant, if we are not positive in WISHING something good, it'll be a WASH! The "it" here is life? the world? So finally we came to the end of the year, with only one set of dreams to go. Even though Jeremy was not consciously participating in any of these activities, since he was vacationing in New Zealand at the time, when it came time for the January 10th ASD Dream Activists' monthly "Awakened Heart" dreaming, Jeremy sent in the following dream: THE DYING PROFESSOR I could to the entrance of a huge court, inside a low wall. Perhaps - it is up slope. I am told by people I am with of a professor who lives there who is interested in the study of Asian women. I ask if he is a certain person I'd seen with his hair pushed up. No, this is someone else, and I hear that I can meet him. The court is wide and long (somewhat larger than a tennis court) and covered with a thin layer of sparkling blue water with grass at the sides. We go in and at the far end meet the professor. I feel insecure, but hear he is dying, so must see him now. I gather my courage. He is lying down. I say I am interested in his work on History. I say this in Korean. I can't remember the word for History and ask one of the others with me. One said. "Yuksa." The professor is wearing and greenish-purplish Hanbok. Then I say, "I am interested in women."This might sound strange, so I say "Sim Sa Im Dang, Taegyo (She was the mother of prenatal education. - Taegyo)" He, lying on his side) ignores me. Then I say, also "Tae-mong (birth dreams). I wrote books on these." He looks away. Then I take his hand and ask, "Are you cold?" He nods, "Yes." Is it "Apa (does it hurt)?"He nods. "Mani apa (much hurt)?" He nods and is happy. I have returned to the reality of the moment. Then he gets up and goes to the wide curving top of a rock connected to the palace. He begins to dance gracefully. It is wonderfully free style Korean dance, slow and graceful. Soon someone in our group says, "We must go. There is a line of people waiting to come in and see this area. They heard he was here." I can see the line behind us, led by Buddhist monks. But I protest. "He is dancing for us, for me, not for them! He wants me to see!" But I go with them, all the while looking back at his figure dancing, as he grows smaller, not wanting to miss a movement. EOD "The dream has to do w being oneself in the moment and caring for others as they are, regardless of our accomplishments or theirs. On simply being human and true, not a false ghost of the past," Jeremy noted. "The palace comes from the Peace Palace in India where the Peace & Children conference will be held. The professor is not me - with the hair brushed up (opposite of mine) but rather a younger Korean man about 50, perhaps rep Professor Wan a retired Philosophy professor I was talking to my wife about last night, a dear man we haven't seen in years. History comes from the book on Chinese History I was perusing last night. The water court comes from the wet bowling green I saw in Nelson, N.Z. Green and purple are complimentary colors. I am afraid Professor Wan who is about 90 will die before we meet him again. I realize it is artificial to speak of my accomplishments to try to get someone's attention or impress him. (once I did this when meeting a great Korean political cartoonist at his retirement exhibition - he had no interest in that I wrote poetry). Once I return to simple humanity, I can reach him or anyone. Simply asking how someone is - anyone, no matter of what status, and showing genuine concern for their condition brings forth gratitude, and I must focus on this during my interactions with others. Coming back to Korea I am faced with much work of various kinds and feel a bit insecure, even about my appearance. I must focus on the essentials of being alive and human and this will succor me. Before sleeping last night I was very weary. Then I did a dance in the dark of the livingroom - a graceful (to my mind) tribute to the four directions and this revived me some. The monks at the front of the line imply a death coming - the professor was dying and they had come to show their respects. But due to my concern for him, he ha revived. Last night too I called an old American friend of mine, who told me about a program on Korean dance which he had wanted me to attend a few days ago. Hence the dancing in the dream. "This issue of humanity is very important. When I was traveling in N.Z. and became close to others, I noticed when I mentioned the Peace Train, the color of our conversation changed - there was something artificial - business-like, or out of rhythm there, and for a few moments until I changed the subject something human was lost - even when enthusiasm was received - I didn't want it felt that I was befriending them simply because of that, so once the statement & or request was out, I moved on to something else - more personal. I had become a movement, a cause, a salesman. And yet, there must be someway to balance the two, for the Peace Train or any Peace Movement is about humanity and preserving humanity. Jean, you and Victoria, May and others I reckon have plenty of experience at this. Our dream group in itself is a good example of a very human balance." Liz, responded with what she called an "end of the world dream" Unfortunately did not write it down.. but it was an 'end of world' dream -- I was talking to an older male, looked something like Hagrid in Harry Potter movies, who told me, when we were talking about the world and what is going to happen, that he received a tarot reading. It was implied in the dream that it was about the state of the world (as opposed to the reading being about him personally). In the particular spread that was layed out (unlike the celtic spread) all tarot cards but three are used... I can only remember him saying that the "justice" card was one of the ones *not* pulled (though he did specifically state all three and I can't remember the other two!) I told him that my son had dreams of end of world too (and in real life this is true). "'End of world" seems like a bleak message," Liz said, "and is certainly not a dream of peace, but thought I'd share it anyway." And finally, there was my own dream of January 10th, which again reflects some of the many themes presented in earlier Peace Bridge dreams, and again involves humor. "Now we come to the dream from last night," I wrote to the Peace Bridge. This message, which is straight from my dream journal, is written in the voice of my "Self" or the automatic writing I use for journaling. "Generally, you do not record this type of dream, which is very personal, as a group dream or a world dream. It was only because of the conversation in the car on the way to Virginia Beach that you remembered the dream at all. Yet this dream does have a message at both the personal and the global level. And we want you to recall later that this dream resonates with Jeremy's last night dream of the dancing professor. The dream itself is quite simple. You and Anne are in a house, one similar to the house you live in now, but larger, with larger rooms. The dogs, Daisy and Song, are out in a fenced back yard. Similar to the fence in your waking yard, this fence has three gates. A man comes into the house, someone who lives there, someone with whom you feel very comfortable. You simultaneously think of the dogs, and wonder where this man has parked. You realize that, in parking his car, he has left one of the gates open, and the dogs have probably escaped. You rush out and call the dogs. They appear to you. They have gone into a neighboring yard, where there are children and some other dogs. Daisy comes to you, but Song is on a screened porch with the neighbors boxer (dog). As you watch, the boxer takes Song's paw into his mouth. Oh no! you think, Song will be aggressive with this. He'll have to fight, and that big boxer will kill him. You begin to run toward the porch, "Stop them," you yell to a woman on the porch. Then the boxer simply lets go of Song's paw. You rush to pick Song up and take him home. From under your arm, he telepaths to you in the laughing voice of a delighted kid. "He didn't think I was a tasty morsel," he says. EOD Now you and Anne already got to an understanding of "thinking out of the box-er", which is certainly one meaning of the dream. We will focus on the more public meanings, since they are the ones you will share. At a personal level, there are meanings concerning various aspects of yourself attempting to communicate, and you might well meditate on these aspects (even in a body work sort of way.) However, at the public level, you have been dealing, as has Jeremy, with the subject of fame and aggression, with questions about making a public statement, taking a position of leadership, and how to do that. The answer, as Jeremy learned, is not to put oneself forward in the usual ways, which have to do with defensiveness and posturing, but rather to "think out of the box(er)" or to escape the confines of the ordinary. The fact is that you were all and are all communicating regularly. We mean this not in the sense of just people on the Bridge, but all the other dreamers as well. And further, you are dreaming with all the creatures in the world, as your communication with the dogs allowed. What happens say both dreams, yours and Jeremy's, when we allow ourselves to operate from our hearts and to enjoy the moment, is what happened in each dream. In Jeremy's dream, the dying man began to dance. And in your dream, a potentially dangerous situation was defused. "I was only having fun with him," Song says. "I didn't want to fight, and neither did he. Animals know when to be aggressive and when not to be aggressive." These dreams, both of them, are part of an entire series of dreams which have been leading you since December. And they are part of a series of dreams which will continue to lead you. As May's dream pointed out so precisely, wish and wash are side by side at any moment, like yin and yang. It is the decision of each moment that creates the world you know." With hopes for the new year, let us all continue to dream. ------------------- The World Dreams Peace Bridge is a group that uses personal dreams for public world peace. You can find out more about the WDPB at http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/ ------------------- o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Dreams of Expectant Mothers and Fathers Alan Siegel, Ph.D. o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Adapted from Dream Wisdom: Uncovering Life's Answers in Your Dreams by Alan Siegel, Ph.D. Published in January 2003 by Ten Speed/Celestial Arts Press, Berkeley, CA www.dreamwisdom.info Dream Wisdom offers a developmental framework for understanding dreams through the life cycle by focusing on dreams during life's important turning points and crises. During these critical moments, our dreams are more vivid and unique and dramatic themes are associated with life transitions. Dream Wisdom features chapters on patterns in dreams from childhood through old age. The following excerpt is from the chapter on expectant parents dreams and features references to Alan Siegel's original research on the dreams of expectant fathers. DREAMS OF EXPECTANT MOTHERS AND FATHERS With joy and trepidation we dream our children into existence. From the moment of conception, expectant parents dream of many aspects of their unborn child. In our pregnant dreams, we envision our child's face, their name, the feeling of their skin. We burst with pride when our dream child talks precociously. As expectant parents, we dream we risk life and limb to protect our children from danger. Anxious about whether we will become good parents, and we dream we blow it, neglecting or losing our dream children, forgetting to feed them and causing them injury. Many pregnancy dreams are filled with anxieties about the well-being of our child and doubts about our competency as parents. It is very distressing to see every fear and worst-case scenario played out in our pregnancy dreams. However, there is an amazing paradox in these vivid worrisome pregnancy dreams. Despite how distressing these nightmares are, they are actually helping us to prepare for the indispensable role we must play as parent to our helpless newborn child. A crucial function of pregnancy dreams is to rehearse and develop our parenting skills and form an inner relationship with our unborn child. The following two dreams were collected from women in the final stage of their first pregnancies. Although a century apart, both have elements that are common to the dreams of late pregnancy: the presence of water and the arrival of furry mammals. The first dream is taken from Sigmund Freud's The Interpretation of Dreams and was probably the dream of a Viennese woman near the end of the Nineteenth Century. The Trapdoor Seal A subterranean channel led directly into the water from a place in the floor of her room. She raised a trapdoor in the floor and a creature dressed in brown fur, very much resembling a seal, presently appeared. In the briefly reported associations to this dream, Freud noted that the "creature turned out to be her younger brother to whom she had always been like a mother." Freud did not elaborate at length on this dream, except to note also that the subterranean channel and the water represented the birth canal and the amniotic fluid. The second dream, from the end of the Twentieth Century, is Jennifer's, a San Francisco nurse in her eighth month of pregnancy. The Smooth Skin of the Otter I'm in labor and I am lying on a beach. The tide is coming in and big waves are washing up onto shore. I keep calling for my husband. I know he's there, but I can't see him. The waves are getting bigger and more dangerous. Just when the waves seem like they are going to drown me, I see a little sea otter next to me. I know it was supposed to be my baby, but I am confused that it looks like an otter. I touch its skin and it is incredibly smooth. Jennifer worried that her dream might signify something abnormal about her baby; perhaps a premonition of some malformation. But as she told her dream at one of my workshops for nurses and childbirth educators, there were many looks of recognition on the faces of the other women in the class. They quickly volunteered that they, too, had frightening dreams during their pregnancies. As Jennifer listened to the other women discuss the details of their anxiety dreams, she was reassured. She saw the dream as representing not danger, but joyful expectation of holding her baby and touching its wonderful soft skin. Jennifer's dream contains a number of other themes common to women in their last trimester of pregnancy. The imminence of labor is often represented by waves, earth tremors, other powerful movements, and a feeling of losing control. During the second and third trimester of pregnancy, many women also have heightened fears about the well-being of their spouse. In Jennifer's dream, her husband's presence is sensed, but he is unable to arrive soon enough to protect her from the dangerous waves of labor. Pregnancy dreams may focus on anxieties that haunt both men and women even during a healthy pregnancy. These include themes that exaggerate the dangers of labor and delivery, and fears about birth defects. Dreams also express marital tensions, feelings of rejection, and fears about being an incompetent parent. As horrifying as they may feel, anxiety dreams and nightmares during pregnancy provide us with an early warning system that alerts us to the fears and concerns that we need to work out. You may feel reassured to know that women who have more frequent dreams involving anxiety or threat had shorter labors and healthier deliveries with fewer complications. A study of seventy women, by researchers Carolyn Winget and Frederic Kapp at the University of Cincinnati, concluded that troubling dreams may be evidence of important conflicts that were being resolved. When fewer distressing dreams were remembered, women tended to have longer labors and more complications. Those women who recalled more troubling dreams had shorter labors with fewer complications. Their dreams appeared to have helped them work out the normal anxieties that accompany the final stage of pregnancy. Medical breakthroughs have given us the technology to diagnose and treat risk factors during pregnancy and delivery. With electronic sensing and imaging we can listen to our baby's heartbeat and actually look into the womb to see our baby very early in the pregnancy. Technological advances, however, are not the only resources we have for understanding what's going on with us during pregnancy. We can also use our dreams as an emotional ultrasound. They provide a way to look into the unconscious and see how we're responding to the changes in our identity, our marriage, our relationships with family and friends, and our newly forming attachment to our unborn child. Exploring dreams can help expectant parents to: Understand and enhance the powerful prenatal attachment to the unborn child Recognize unique patterns in dreams during the three stages of pregnancy and become aware of how they relate to the emotional stages of becoming a parent Understand the similarities and differences between men=s and women's psychological conflicts and fulfillment Generate mutual understanding and empathy for emotional reactions to pregnancy and rekindle communication on issues that often create tension and confusion Explore patterns in the erotic dream adventures and misadventures of expectant parents, and to use these dreams to help resolve confusion and misunderstandings that may arise in the couple=s sexual relationship Recognize how identity changes and new roles linked to parenthood will cause the parents to experience themselves in new and unaccustomed ways with family and friends DREAMS AND THE SECRET LIFE OF THE EXPECTANT FATHER The strength of men's emotional experience of pregnancy has only recently come to light. Beginning with the confirmation of pregnancy, powerful feelings and dreams emerge. Some of these responses are similar to those of women. Others are unique to men. Awareness and discussion of these dreams can help transform what frequently is a sense of alienation for expectant fathers. Dreams are a resource for helping men to feel more secure about their role in pregnancy and to forge a closer bond with both wife and child. In 1981, I began the first systematic study of the patterns in expectant fathers' dreams. Using a Two-Week Dream journal procedure (described in the book Dream Wisdom), I compared expectant fathers' dreams with the dreams of a matched group of married men who were not fathers and not expecting. Using content analysis to compare the dreams of the two groups, I found striking differences. From the earliest days of the pregnancy, the expectant fathers' dreams were replete with vivid imagery of pregnancy, birth, and babies. Dreams of rejection and exclusion were especially prominent throughout pregnancy, as well as many graphic sexual and homosexual encounters and dreams of wild celebratory birthday parties. This finding challenges the notion that the expectant father faces no significant emotional upheaval until later in the pregnancy or after the birth. In reality, throughout the pregnancy a father's dreams are intimately related to his role as a father, his changing relationship with his wife, and his newly forming relationship with his child-to-be. Left-out Dreams: One of the most common issues in expectant fathers' dreams is the theme of feeling left out, misunderstood, deprived, or threatened in other ways. These dreams reveal old wounds and sensitivities to rejection that are reopened by fears about being displaced by the arrival of the baby. Joel had increased his hours at work to try to make more money to pay for the expenses of his child. When Joel's wife was five months pregnant, he had a troubling dream that took place during a baseball game at Candlestick Park in San Francisco. Banished to the Back of the Stadium In the middle of the game, I get up to get some beer. When I return, I can't find my seat. I look around for a new one, but many of the women in the stands are pregnant, and they are taking up two seats. I have to go to the back of the stadium and stand. I am very annoyed. Joel was upset and puzzled by this dream. He wasn't much of a sports fan, and he generally avoided alcohol because his father had a drinking problem. "The feeling I have in this dream is that of being left out. There is no room for me with all these huge pregnant women." Joel was able to laugh at the absurdity of a stadium full of pregnant women crowding him out. Even in the generally male domain of beer and baseball, he felt like an outcast, rejected and forced to the back of the stadium. Exploring this dream helped Joel to understand that he was having a strong emotional reaction to his wife=s pregnancy. Despite his positive conscious reaction to becoming a father, he was feeling excluded by his wife, which is a painful phase of pregnancy that many men suffer through. The message of the dream was not about baseball; it was about Joel's sense of exclusion and his need to find more ways to be involved in the pregnancy and planning for the baby. After discussing this dream, Joel was able to express his left-out feelings more directly with his wife. They decided that he would cut back on overtime hours at work so that he could spend more time with her and be more involved in preparations for the baby's arrival. Celebration Dreams. A dramatic feature of expectant fathers' dreams throughout pregnancy is the appearance of parties, celebrations, and what appear to be initiation ceremonies related to pregnancy and childbirth. Over half the expectant fathers in my study had a Party and Celebration dream, contrasted with only one incidence of this kind of dream in my comparison group. These were slightly more common earlier in the pregnancy. An especially notable feature of Party and Celebration dreams is that many of the feature birthday parties. These dreams also depicted elaborate food preparation, eating and drinking, water imagery, and relationships with masculine or macho figures. Some of these dreams were associated with the completion of a creative project, such as a man who dreamed about a big party to celebrate a writing project he had just completed. The lack of adequate roles and rituals to confirm their inclusion and importance causes expectant fathers to feel anxious about where they fit in. Parties are associated with important turning points such as birthdays, graduations, weddings, and accomplishments. They usually involve a sense of specialness or sacredness apart from mundane routines. The preponderance of Party and Celebration dreams reflects an unconscious awareness of the specialness and importance of becoming a father. In their Party and Celebration dreams, most men create unconscious rites of passage to express the excitement of becoming a father. HOW TO USE PREGNANCY DREAMS Dreams exaggerate our anxieties about harm coming to a spouse, child, and ourselves during pregnancy. Sharing and exploring anxiety dreams (such as Deformed and Endangered Baby dreams, Forgetting the Baby dreams, and Losing Valuables dreams) helps to make us more aware of our fears. When we can articulate what we fear, we have a chance to understand how appropriate and necessary our fears are. When we can share what troubles us with our spouse, family, and friends, we have the chance to feel reassured, to understand and resolve our changing emotional needs. Awareness of dreams also can help men to convert their unconscious emotional reactions and fears of being excluded into an energetic involvement with the events of the pregnancy and the preparations for nurturing the baby. It is especially important that men be encouraged to participate in prenatal classes, obstetric visits, genetic counseling and amniocentesis, shopping for the baby's needs, and baby showers and other celebratory events. An invisible drama unfolds in the dreams of expectant parents. When we make this drama visible, by remembering and sharing dreams together, we can nurture the marital relationship and prepare for our new role as parents. Just as proper nutrition and medical care will enhance the physical growth of the fetus, extra communication and emotional support enhance the parents' psychological readiness. Using our dreams to explore hidden conflicts, feelings, anxieties, and joys can be of tremendous value to couples as they prepare to make the crucial adjustment to parenthood. Alan Siegel, Ph.D., is an adult and child psychologist and a pioneer in dream work with 30 years of teaching and publishing on dream-related topics. He is a former president of the international Association for the Study of Dreams and Editor-Emeritus of their magazine, Dream Time. His commentaries on post-9-11 nightmares, children's dreams, and dreams interpretation have been featured on NBC's Today Show as well as CNN News, PBS, NPR, the Discovery Channel's The Power of Dreams series, and NBC's prime time special, The Secret World of Dreams He was the Creative Consultant for the award-winning HBO video, Goodnight Moon and Other Sleepy Time Tales. His research and teachings on dreams have been featured in dozens of publications as diverse as Readers Digest, USA Today, The Los Angeles Times, Bottom Line Personal, McCall's, Self, Redbook, Good Housekeeping, Working Woman, Parenting, Family Circle, Glamour, Mademoiselle, and Johns Hopkins Magazine. You can read more about Alan Siegel, Ph.D. and find out more about the book Dream Wisdom at http://www.dreamwisdom.info o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Stan Kulikowski II Dream: A Cosmic Novice o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o DATE : 25 jan 08:46 =( last night was friday. i postponed my usual binge celebration. i havebeen doing this for a couple weeks now for no particular reason. i have been a little depressed lately, but i do not think there is any causal connection between my rituals and this sentiment. several people i know have complained of mild depression too, so it may be just something in the stars rather than our souls. i spent much of the afternoon submitting my income tax through my computer then did some course preparations during the evening while watching video with mother. it has been cold enough here that my hot water pipes were slightly frozen yesterday morning, so i let them drip all night as i went to sleep around 02:00 without much trouble. )= "do you want to play a game of cosmic wimpout?" i ask the two students with me. abegail jane smiles and immediately shakes her head yes. she begins to search through her handbag for her favorite marker. the other student, jim, is a japanese american graduate student. he pauses for a moment with a look of consternation. i have not played a game of cosmic wimpout with anyone in several months so the opportunity of my offer is something he obviously will not want to pass up, but he perceives some other obligation in conflict with a twenty minute game of three people. he thinks for a bit with his timing, then assents to the game. i note his discomfort and struggle even before the game has begun and wonder how it will affect his play. we are in a cafeteria room of a school somewhere. there are long bench seat tables with maybe fifteen other people in the room, eating brown bag lunches or a hot meal from a serving line in the next larger room for the general student population. this is apparently a staff lunch room. i have brought my students, abby and jim, in as my guests. i shuffle around in my shoulder bag to find my wimpout felt and dice. the felt is easy to find, so i unroll it on the table area between our lunch trays. abegail in on my left while jim is on the end of the table to my right. it is a little harder to sort out the five cosmic dice. there are a couple handfuls of small pieces in the bottom of my bag. i wonder why i do not have the usual leather travel bag just for cosmic dice, but they seem to be mixed in with the loose pieces. i sort out a couple regular cubic dice, some iridescent green polygon dice for some role playing game, and some chess men. gradually i find the five cosmic dice. they are large cold clear crystal cubes, a little irregular and sharp on the edges like they were grown rather than carved. when i get the set of all five in my fist, my hand shines out with a white glow and its tissue becomes transparent so we can see my bones inside. this effect is painless and vanishes as soon as i toss the five dice onto the playing felt. i take off my unicorn ring for my marker and place it on the zero line of the felt next to abby's earring. jim is not ready to play yet. he has gone over in the corner of the room with his cell phone while he calls someone and mutters his apologies. abegail and i smile at each other as we patiently wait for him to conclude his business. cosmic wimpout is a game that fosters patience and civility among its skilled players. we have enjoyed the occasional game and each other for years now. jim finally concludes his phone contact and comes back to the table. he fishes a nickel out of his pocket and puts it on the zero line, ready to begin. we each take up one cosmic die and roll it on the felt to determine first player. abegail wins the first toss. i notice our hands did not glow transparent when rolling a single die, but her hand does shine through when she takes up all five. "whose turn is it to eat?" i ask to the room in general. "mine." speaks up bill griffin over in the far corner of the lunch room. he takes a bite of tray meal and chews with a grumpy growling noise. after bill is chewing whatever breaded meat he has taken, there is a pause. "who is after bill?" i ask. "oh, i am." paul frederick is in the other corner of the room at the far end of the table we are sitting at. he takes his bite of food, then the next person takes a bite, and so on down the line to abegail. i wonder why bill and paul are sitting as far apart as the room will let them. usually they are almost joined at the hip. abegail takes a bite of her breaded meat square, and tosses the cosmic dice onto the felt. two tens and a five. she rerolls the two other nonscoring dice to get a ten. a perfect thirty five for her first turn. she moves her earring off the zero to the 35 line. i noticed how delicate are her bones compared to mine when her hand was clear. i take a bite off my tray and take up the dice. the usual first rule is thirty five or better to start, but i am facing forty or better since abby is occupying the 35 line. my hand flashes transparent as i roll a train wreck: all five dice thrown and nothing scores. i note that my karma is strong, whether it is good remains to be seen. jim takes a bite of his sandwich and takes up the dice. he throws two fives and a ten on the first roll, then wimps out rolling the other two dice. the order of eating passes on to the next table. a few people also growl like bill did when taking their bites. the growling seems to indicate some unhappiness with the waiting. if we weren't playing our game between bites, everyone else could sequence their bites almost simultaneously after each other. but our game sets a tempo between bites that the others are expected to pace themselves. we wait for the sequence of bites to come around again. "why do we have to eat like this, one bite at a time?" asks jim in obvious irritation. "you are impatient with the order of society." i reply. "how long have you been playing wimpout?" "about a year and a half." "a year and a half, and you still do not understand the reason we play this game." i tell him. "it took me three games to get most of the rules." jim shakes his head. "but i still have trouble knowing how to win." i look at him with compassion. "a win is 500 exactly-- either by total count or in any one roll." i tell him this, knowing that he knows this rule already. his question is not so much 'how to win' but 'when to win' which is most often a matter of intentional choice and some chance rather than game mechanics. skilled wimpout players play with each other as much as the game. it is one of hardest things for novices to learn. "the rules of this game are incomplete." he complains. "it is life and the universe that are incomplete." i explain to him. "the cosmic rules of wimpout are such that every game played so far has come to a reasonable completion even though many of the rules are mathematically infinite." i know this probably will not help him but i say it again anyway. some people never seem to get beyond the novice stage no matter how long they try. =( i wake at 08:30. abegail jane was a woman that i loved and lost. it was good to see her in friendly circumstances again. bill griffin and paul frederick were colleague faculty when i worked in educational research here in pensacola. the japanese student, jim, is unknown to me in waking life. cosmic wimpout is a real game, for many years my favorite since its rule structure is so elegant that even frequent players may not be skilled in the karma of play. it was searchable on the internet the last time i checked. the five dice, however, do not cause your hand to become transparent; and the sequenced eating in the lunchroom is not part of the game. )= ---------------------------------------- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< Where is the Global Dreaming News? Now at the beginning of Electric Dreams! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ New Series begins with dream-flow@egroup.com Digest #1 09/29/2000 This issue includes volume #600- #615 Hello and welcome to the DREAM SECTION of Electric Dreams. This section is edited by Elizabeth Westlake and the DreamEditor, a software creation of Harry Bosma, author of the Dream interpretation and journaling software "Alchera". (homepage: http://mythwell.com) Please note that we print these dreams as they come to us and that means we do not correct the spelling. Some dreamworkers find these spelling mistakes a great window on the dream and dreamer. The Electric Dreams DREAM SECTION includes dreams and comments from the DREAM FLOW, a project to circulate dreams in Cyberspace. 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An Archive of dream-flow is available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/dream-flow@egroups.com/ Pre-November 2000: http://www.mail-archive.com/dream-flow@lists.best.com/ Pre-November 1998 http://www.mail-archive.com/ed-core@lists.best.com/ Pre-April 1990 Use Electric Dreams Backissues http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-backissues __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Message: 600-001 Subject: Back To School dream_title: Back To School dream_date: 9 December 2002 dreamer_name: Sweet Sapphire dream_text: My dream is really hazy but certain areas stand out. I do remember being back in school (which i left 2 years ago) and dancing in front of a lot of people, also there was one of my ex-boyfriends there who i havent seen for about a year. I also remember being stripped down to my underwear but i was fine about it and i was laughing and joking!!? The part that stands out to me is in my dream i saw my self crying in the arms of my ex-boyfriend but he left so i went to comfort myself. I find this really strange and I am confused about what this means! I would really love to know. dream_comments: I really want to know what that part about me comforting myself means, does it mean i feel alone or are dreams contradictory? comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 600-002 Subject: the stranger dream_title: the stranger dreamer_name: anonymous dream_text: I was walking down the street when I noticed that a man was following me. I didn't recognize him. I couldn't see his face but he was wearing all black. He was following me until I ended up at my grandmal house. I was at the front porch when that man that was following me grabbed me and tried rapping me but I put on a struggle. Then I woke up. dream_comments: What does my dream mean? Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 600-003 Subject: the meat world dream_title: the meat world dream_date: September 9, 2001 dreamer_name: j0equ1nn dream_text: I'm in an unfamiliar office, talking to my psychiatrist about something. I'm holding a ticket. "Runnin' down a dream" by Tom Petty is playing on a radio. I start bending the ticket in my hand back and forth. As I do this, I notice that it's changing the way the song sounds. I find this really freaky. Once the psychiatrists sees I have noticed the connection, she stops talking and stares at me. I stare back at her and her face changes colors, then melts. Then everything melts. There is an overpowering, shivering nightmare feeling that borders somehow on euphoria. I'm in my room lying on my bed. I can't see anything except black with little gray slivers in it, but I can somehow feel where everything is. The phone rings. I hear my mom answer it and come to my door. I think to myself "I wonder if she'll disturb me even though I'm in the meat world." She opens the door and that same feeling starts. It keeps intensifying through the rest of the dream. She throws the phone on my bed. I say "hello." It's my friend Kat. She sounds very cheerful and says something nonsensical that I don't remember. comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 601-001 Subject: Two cat dreams on the same night. Hi all, About a week ago I had two dreams about my cats on the same night. I'm not sure why. The first one was very disturbing, the second one was funny... In the first dream, Jemima, the youngest and most timid of all my pet cats, is climbing out of a window on the top floor of my house. Only the top part of the window is open, so she has to jump and scramble up the glass to reach it. She makes it to the open part, pauses balanced there, then jumps out. I've been watching her, thinking she's just been playing around, but this... this is serious. I run over to the window. Calm down, cats always land on their feet, don't they? No. Her body's lying there on the path below. The way it's twisted, she must be dead. Jemima's killed herself, suicide, but why? Why? And why didn't I stop her? After waking up in a panic, I settled down fell asleep again and had a much nicer dream, about Oi-Kit-Kat who used to belong to my brother. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The dice are already in the glass, so I balance it on the edge of the table near where Oi is standing. He bends down and pushes the glass with his head. It falls off, and the dice roll out. I look at the numbers, and move Oi's counter for him on the Monopoly board. By now Oi is lying on the floor beside the board. I can tell from his body language and the way he mews at me that he's saying "Don't I get another go?" I look back at the dice. He's right, there's a double. Well, sort of. There are now four dice instead of two, and two of them have been deliberately glued together so they always show the same number. Still, it *is* a double and he is technically entitled to another go. I put the dice back in the glass, which has changed into an old jam jar, give it a quick shake for luck, and balance it on the table edge again. While Oi pushes it, his sister Shelly wanders into the room. She gives a snort of loving disdain. She's a much smarter cat than Oi and considers games like Monopoly to be a bit silly. Besides, she's just jealous that Oi's beating me at it. It's not my fault he's winning. Everything keeps changing. Not just the dice but the pieces too. They keep changing shape and colour so I can't remember which is which. And there's the board. Look at that Community Chest square. It's just turned into an entire snakes-and-ladders grid. You have to win that before you can move on to the next square in the main game! I'd better look in the rules to see what they say about this. Except the rules turn into satirist Ian Hislop's review of the computer game MegaHal. I just start to read it, and then I wake up... Any ideas what it all means? I don't even like Monopoly in real life... Pi. comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 602-001 Subject: unicorns Hi, My name is Johnnie, and I'm looking for someone to help me understand a dream I had. I dreamed I was walking along a dirt road with someone who I do not remember. As we were walking along this road, suddenly out of the sky came this loud rumbling noise, a noise that said without a doubt that it's time to get on your knee's and ask for forgiveness for everything you've done or thought about doing. We immediately got on our knees and started praying. About this time, out of the sky came three pure white unicorns. The each came in a downward flight one after the other, and return to the sky as fast as they appeared. Afterward I woke up so scared I couldn't sleep the rest of the night. I've asked many people and no one seems to know or have heard anything similar. Can you help me.....? comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 602-002 Subject: (unknown) Hello,Group. My name is Elaine. I have dreams every night. I have all kinds of dreams: frightful dreams (murder, hunted by horrible aninmals), beautiful dreams(spring, flowers, flying and golden stars all over the sky) and dreams with sexual nature. I'd like to share with you my thoughts about dreams. 1. Interpret your dreams physically not just mentally. As dreams are the activities of the brain, both physical and mental stimutli can affect the brain's dream creation activities. Brain is connected to the nerves of your whole body, when you don't feel well, for instance you have stomachache, the pain will be transmitted to your brain and your brain will transform the pain into some bad images, fragments and things you saw before, then you have bad dreams. Your brain processes the images-disassemble and reconstruct, so you might see something very weird that you've never seen before in your dreams. 2. Do dreams augur? Yes, but only sometimes. Actually very rarely. ( to be continued ) comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 602-003 [ed.note: post deleted - off topic] ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 603-001 [ed.note: post deleted - off topic] ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 603-002 [ed.note: post deleted - off topic] ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 604-001 Subject: Re: unicorns Your dream was fascinating.... This is truly a dream of changes to happen in your life... You've been blessed with 'angel dust' That is what I call it... So many wonderful changes are about to happen in your life... all for the good.. Just be sure to share some of this with people that are in need... It will come back to you over and over again... This dream tells of good fortune and warns you to be kind and share your good luck with those less fortunate... 123 I saw those numbers while reading your dream............... My analogy is more than unconventional to most, but it is usually right on target............................. I am hoping I am right with this one.... :-) ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 605-001 Subject: Running in another Dimension I'm standing in a yard with a friendly crowd of people, But I am standing away from the group. A phsychic walks up and she is holding a flyer. She is facing the crowd and has her back to me. Even though I can not read the words, I know what it says: "New York Phsychic Love Fair". She holds the paper up and ask, "Who wants to go?" The crowd is enthusiastic and everyone holds their hands in the air. She leads them away and leaves me standing alone. She leads them to a rail road track crossing a long, narrow, paved road. The track runs on a small hill and has crossing guards. She stops on this side of the tracks. She holds the flyer above her head and it turns into a huge calender-- bill board size on the other side of the tracks. She holds up a pointer and says, "These are the dates." She points to the 3rd and 4th of the month. I'm not sure of the month. The calender becomes clear like glass. The cross the tracks as she leads the group through it and up the road. I'm still standing in the yard watching and I have a strong urge to follow. I begin to run and I cross the tracks. But the Window is receeding like a tide. I run faster to catch it and finally enter. Inside I hear my own heartbeat, but it's not coming from inside me but all around me. I can also feel my heart vibrate, resonating through my body. I keep running to catch the others and I hear a voice call from behind me. "Hey wait for me, I want to go too." A young man runs up next to me and he is wearing blue jeans, sneakers and a gray sweat jacket. But he has a dark gray shroud over his face. And I'm thinking how can this guy see where he is going. We stop an sitting in a vacant field is an abandoned house. The house sitting on piers, has a porch that goes across the entire front of the house. The house was white at one time but had faded and the wood silvered through the years. The field was very well kept but did not have any other vegatation on it besides grass. The house was sitting very close to the road. The man looked at me and asked, "How long do you think we can stay here?" I looked at him and I noticed that the shroud had three bars of silver horizontal and vertical much like a tic tac toe pattern. The bars weren't solid but small square segments. As I was looking at him I was thinking that I really didn't want to leave. Suddenly I was physically lifted up, pulled back through gray emptiness and back into my body. I woke up. This happened during meditation. I just wanted to share this and welcome all your comments. Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 606-001 Subject: Re: Running in another Dimension spend time away from the yard preferably away to the right for there's no reason to be friendly till your next dream ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 606-002 Subject: Re: Running in another Dimension Thanks, but why do you say that??? I got the impression that I was suppose to follow my heart and listen to it...feel it. What do you think???? Charlie ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 606-003 Subject: Ex Boyfriend The past two nights I have had dreams with my ex boyfriend in them, he is desperatly trying to win me over. Is this because he broke my heart? Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 606-004 Subject: Re: Ex Boyfriend The little bit that I've heard, I would have to say yes. It's wishful thinking... a vent dream. I don't know how close you too were, but I do know that when souls meet they have a connection. And I can understand a broken heart. I beleive that most of us that have been in very serious relationships that ended have had our hearts broken. Sometimes dreams act as a relief valve for something that is bothering us. But know this... from everything bad that happens something good in equal measure comes back. One of the laws of the universe. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 606-005 Subject: I too dreamt about my ex HI there, I am fairly new to this board and have been having really weird dreams. Maybe someone can help me out. I noticed someone posted about dreaming of an ex and last night i had one hell of a weird dream which included my ex and then some. In reality we dated for about 5 months, 5 years ago and had a good time together, the breakup ended on an ok note and I have seen him once in a while on the street since then and we are both curteous to make small talk. This entire year he has been in my dreams where I can smell him very strongly and all the dreams have been of us being together. Unfortunatly I last saw him at a mutual friends funeral but he didn't see me so we didn't speak. ! Last night I dreamt that he and I were in what seemed like a huge department store shopping for XMAS presents, specifically for my sister and his nephew and we were being all lovey dovey. We spent quite a bit of time shopping and then we left the store and the dream changed and i was talking to a friend of mine in front of my house who in reality i haven't seen in 2 yrs and who also happens to be married with a child but in the dream he was gay and was admitting to liking a male friend of mine! Does anyone know what the hell this means. Since i know that our dreams are part of our conscious thoughts I would like to say that I haven't thought about these two people (my ex and my friend) in quite a while so who knows what they mean and what there signifigance are. Thanks so much Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 607-001 Subject: Invisible woman dream This is a dream I had last weekend. There are bits of it I can't remember clearly, almost as if I'm not letting myself remember... There's a large window on one side of the corridor. It looks out onto a small square or courtyard, bounded on all sides by the modern college buildings. It's night outside but the corridor is brightly lit. I've arrived at the building, and I'm walking along a corridor to the seminar room. But I'm *not* myself. Instead of being the ugly, androgynous man that I am in real life, I'm a glamorous woman. And I'm also invisible. My clothes, however, do remain visible. I can see them reflected in the window, wrapped around the space where I would have been. A figure-hugging, black dress with a large, white collar curving down to become the lapels of the plunging neckline. It's sleeveless, but I'm wearing long, white gloves. The whole outfit is very elegant in a late-fifties or early-sixties haute couture sort of way. As I enter the seminar, I'm glad I'm this beautiful, invisible woman instead of myself. This time the other people there won't hate me. I sit down at the long, wooden table and the meeting begins. (Unfortunately I can't remember anything about the meeting or seminar or whatever it was. Maybe my dream just went fast-forward through this bit, but I've a feeling it did happen and they were all discussing unpleasant things about my real self, never guessing that I was the mysterious woman in the room with them.) We take a break, and I wander out into the corridor. The seminar's chairwoman comes up to me and begins a conversation, still not knowing who I really am... until I say something that gives my identity away. She immediately becomes angry with me because I've deceived her, deceived everyone there, pretending to be someone I'm not. After she's gone, leaving me standing in the open doorway leading out to the courtyard, something strange happens. The invisible woman steps out of me, leaving me as a naked *visible* man. She knows it's me they're really angry with, not her. She's still popular, even if I'm not. I try to go back to the meeting anyway, hoping that if I bluff enough maybe they won't notice I'm not the invisible woman any more. But as soon as I enter the room, I know it hasn't worked. The chairwoman has told everyone about me, and now they're all staring at me. They know who I am. They hate me. I wake up. Lying in bed I feel shaken and disturbed by the ending of the dream. I know it's true how much everyone hates me. Notes: * The building seems to be a cross between two colleges were I attend evening classes. The corridor comes from one building and the seminar room from the other. * This was my fourth dream about being an invisible woman. The three in the past have all been very positive and enjoyable. This one was very depressing because of all the emotional baggage and low self-esteem which I'd brought into it from real life. Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 607-002 Subject: Electrical appliances and fresh fried penis Yesterday afternoon I felt tired, and I dozed off around 6pm with a little nap on the sofa. I had two dreams there, but I only remember one of them. Warning: this is a bit gross, so if your squeamish or easily disgusted, you might not want to read it... My mother can't understand the remote control for the new television. That's not surprising, she had enough trouble with the old one. But this new one is so complicated that even I'm having trouble using it. I should be able to get picture-in-picture by pressing two or three *very* tiny buttons, each only a couple of millimetres across. But instead it just switches the TV to the Discovery: Garage Music channel and locks it there until I turn reset it in frustration. At least the new, light fitting works better. It's a large, diamond-shaped sandwich of bare metal sheets with the lightbulb poking out from one end. As it hangs from the ceiling it looks very hi-tech in a 1980s-retro style. And of course, I'll be able to user the remote control on it too, to turn the light on and off from my bed. This is only a small one-or-two room apartment with a roof garden. I go out to the garden to inspect the new burglar alarm sensors mounted on the green patio doors. They look in order so I come back indoors to get breakfast. My mother and her boyfriend are visiting, and she is frying him three sausages. One of them looks as if it might have been his penis. By a strange coincidence, I'm also going to fry my penis for breakfast. I'd already plucked it off ready to cook. It came off cleanly, with no blood or pain. The end where it had been attached is just plain, featureless, pink scar tissue. I know without looking that the corresponding area of my groin is identical scar tissue. My penis is now lying on the work surface beside the cooker. I pick it up and put it in a second frying pan with pieces of potato. I fry them on the cooker next to my mother's sausages. Soon the penis is done, a lovely crisp dark colour on the outside, yet I know it will be tender and juicy inside. I put it on a plate, and walk over to the table. It's only now that my mother asks me "You're not going to eat that are you?" She's right. There's nothing strange about removing my own penis and cooking it, but to actually *eat* it... That's going too far. I stare at it wondering what to do. Then the phone rang and woke me up... Notes: * Although I live in a large house in real life, my dream home was a tiny apartment. It was a mixture of various rooms in my real house. The roof garden was total imagination. * The strangest thing about the dream was that it *wasn't* my real penis. The one in the dream was uncircumcised and a different shape: rounder and fatter. I don't understand that at all. Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 608-001 Subject: Re: Invisible woman dream you start this dream description late as if there is something about the corridor you are not telling us. so i would say spend some time to the right of the corridor where you can be peacefully less like it ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 609-001 Subject: Re: Invisible woman dream On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Heratheta@aol.com said > you start this dream description late as if there is something about > the > corridor you are not telling us. No, I just had to start the description there because I don't remember the beginning of the dream. Or maybe it was one of those that started halfway through... ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 610-001 [ed.note: post deleted - off topic] ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 611-001 Subject: motorycle dreamer_name: princess dream_text: well my friend her dad has a motorycle my freind name is catherine and her dad is bear. ok well my dream is i wasat school and i was in second hour and i was by the door wating for the bell to ring so i could go to my next class accross the hall. well someone comes in and i get a note saying catherine and bear are in the hosptial cuz they recked on the motorcycle.and i did not read it till i got to the middle of the hallway and i like allmost faint and this boy i like bobby cought me so i would not fall cuz i was so shocked. dream_comments: this was a few days after ctherines other borther died on a motorcylce. comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 611-002 Subject: Chase dream_date: 12/11/02 dreamer_name: angel dream_text: I was alone on this hill type mountain thing and all of a sudden poeple came run after me and I could not get away and if they caught me they would rape me and then they would throw me off the hill type moutain then I would wake up...... dream_comments: when i fell it felt like i was really falling comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 611-003 Subject: black blob dream_title: black blob dream_date: recurring dreamer_name: anonymous dream_text: a black blob that just sits there and randomly moves closer dream_comments: i want to know what it means comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 611-004 Subject: Making choices in life dream_title: Making choices in life dreamer_name: anonymous dream_text: I am with my current partner and we seem to have limited contact with our respective wider families. We have no money/wealth but seem happy in each other's company. Holding hands, we try to make contact with my partner's father but although we can see him, he does not seem able to see us. And we watch him happily going about his daily routine. Then we have a visit from a spirit who appears from the sewers. She sees our predicament and offers us two choices. a) we can stay in our current position, close to each other but apart from our families. b) or we can be transported to a new world where we are comfortable, rich and viewed as wise and respected. But we will be hideously ugly. We choose the second option. We arrive at the destination but it is not what we expected. The place is crowded with people and we have little space. We feel cheated and are so ugly that we no longer find each other attractive. And so the dream ends. comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 611-005 Subject: The Murder dream_title: The Murder dream_date: 12/11/02 dreamer_name: Charli dream_text: My 3 friends and I had this dream, But we each had a part of it and where one stopped the other one began. so here's the dream. Jen: Her boyfriend and her were in church and he had his arm around her then he took off running outside and so did two other members of the church. The members of the church pounded him to the ground and beat him. end of 1. Charli: I'm in front of church trying to read speach for the boyfriend cuz jen couldn't come, and the word were all in blocks and different shapes, so I wisper to the pastor that I can't read it and he tells me to just make up something, so I did and the funerals over and were all walking out crying. end of 2. Catie: We're walking out of the church crying and we get in her mom's van and she goes to say something. end of 3. Tori: everyone's still crying Catie yells why does this alway have to happen, and she starts crying too. end of 4. dream_comments: So what does this dream mean? We all woke up feeling like it was real, and all of us felt like we had been crying, ( I was crying when I woke up) Please help!!!!! comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 611-006 Subject: a devil appeared at my bedside wearing a silver crownand had ears that looked like cat ears dream_title: a devil appeared at my bedside wearing a silver crownand had ears that looked like cat ears dream_date: 12/8/2002 dreamer_name: anonymous dream_text: i dreamed of the devil beside my bed wearing a crown of silver and having ears like a cat comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 611-007 Subject: Little green men dream_title: Little green men dream_date: 1955 dreamer_name: solarangel dream_text: When I was young I used to have this recurring dream and I have had a couple of similar dreams relatively currently. In my dream I realized there was no one left on the earth that I was aware of but me. Then I saw some little frog like creatures. They talked to me and told me they could not take me with them even though I wanted them to. I did not want to be left alone. But in my dream they always flew off without me. Recently I had a similar dream but I traveled with the creatures. Then suddenly I was back on earth again. Another type of recurring dream I have is a chase dream. In my dream there is always someone or something chasing me. dream_comments: I see the chase dream as being my problems and trying to run from them though I have not really figured out what the other one signifies. comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 612-001 Subject: goats and horses dream_title: goats and horses dream_date: about a year ago dreamer_name: weenerfoetus dream_text: The dream was quite long- but I can only remember this part of it... I'm sitting in a train looking out of the window. I see a typical kiddie-drawing house (4 windows, triangular roof, rectangulr door, happy-looking, etc). It has a white picket fence around it, and behind it are lots of very tall fir trees. Taller than the house, in fact. I can't remember what the sky looked like- it's possible I couldn't see it. The house was on a hill. On the left hand side of it, inside the fence, horses are giving birth. They are strapped down on their fronts on tables with their legs splayed. Men take their young as they give birth and put them in a neat little row behind the horses. They all look really cute and perfect. Someone is making little notes about them. On the right hand side of the house, also inside the fence, goats are giving birth. No one is helping them- they give birth on their own. Some of them stick their rear ends out through the fence as they give birth so that, as their young are born, they fall down the hill and land on a concrete road. Others that have already given birth pick up their young in their mouths and drop them out through the fence. Most of the baby goats die when they hit the concrete but some survive and run away down the road. dream_comments: I have no idea what it means, but I guess I should give you some basic details about myself... I am a goth... I am bisexual. I am terrified of love and commitment, and have decided that I will have an abortion if I ever become pregnant. I was also sexually abused as a child. I'm a self-harmer, but I don't take any drugs except the occassional drink. Im currently at university studying astrophysics. I'd like to know what my dream means, since it's stuck in my mind and I'm guessing that means it must have some significance. comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 612-002 Subject: You have a green SKINK on your back dream_title: You have a green SKINK on your back dream_date: Dec 12' 02 dreamer_name: Aikido Student dream_text: I heard that someone(girl) spoke softly beside my ears that "you have a green skink on your back, you have a green skink on your back..." until I felt it and then I saw it in my dream it's a Green one, it didn't move just stay be cool. I scare, so I was trying to wake up or tried to take it out by softly -_-" and I looked to the clock it was about 5am something. So I was trying to close my eyes to sleep. dream_comments: - Skink, it's look like chameleon but in my dream she was called Skink.- and Skink is never have green one before. comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 612-003 [ed.note: post deleted - off topic] ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 613-001 [ed.note: post deleted - off topic] ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 613-002 [ed.note: post deleted - off topic] ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 614-001 [ed.note: post deleted - off topic] ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 615-001 Subject: The stripped down computer lab (Is this the correct place to send a dream?) Tom and Mike (actual people in my life) are getting ready to redo the computer lab at the local college. They are responsible for upgrading and maintaining the computers (in real life). I come in to use the computer lab and the whole room is stripped of everything; not only the computers, but also the furniture, carpeting, fixtures, etc. etc. The room was stripped down to bare concrete with squiggles on the wall left by the tools used for smoothing down concrete. Outside the room are piles of carpeting, tools, wires, construction mess, broken furniture (it looks like a construction site). People are coming in to use the computer lab and I tell each one..."This lab is not open today". Any comments? Thanks! 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