E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Subscribe: electric-dreams-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: electric-dreams-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Subscribe Online: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electric-dreams o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Volume #11 Issue #9 September 2004 ISSN# 1089 4284 o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Download a cover for this issue: http://tinyurl.com/4o76f o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o C O N T E N T S ++ Editor's Notes ++ News – PsiberDreaming Conference 9-19 to 10-3-04 Register before September 5th, get a $5 discount! Or Join ASD as a NEW member from August 8 - October 3, 2004, and as a bonus you can attend the 2004 PsiberDreaming Conference for free! ++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange Lucy Gillis Robert Waggoner interviews Beverly D'Urso III ++ Article: The Artworker of Dreams Linda Lane Magallón ++ Column: Making Book The World Dreams Peace Bridge A View from the Bridge Jean Campbell ++ Dream: On Thin Ice Stan Kulikowski II ++ Letter from David Gordon, ASD Membership Chair ++ DREAM SECTION: Dreams from August, 2004 Host Kat Peters-Midland XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX D E A D L I N E : September 22nd deadline for October 2004 submissions XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Post Dreams and Comments on Dreams to: http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple Send Dreaming News and Calendar Events to: Peggy Coats Send Articles and Subscription concerns to: Richard Wilkerson: o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Editor's Notes o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Welcome to the September 2004 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams and dreamwork online. If you are new to dreams and dreamwork, please join us on dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the resources & groups you need. To join send an e to dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Electric Dreams is looking for a Dream News Editor. If you are interested in this position, see the details below. This is a really fun position as you get to know all the players in the field of dreams. This month in Electric Dreams: Lucy Gillis shares travels around the dream world to find the most talented and experimental lucid dreamers. This month, "DreamSpeak: An Interview with a Lucid Dreamer" continues with its third installment. In this three part series, Robert Waggoner interviews long time lucid dreamer Beverly D'Urso. Linda Magallón, author of Mutual Dreaming, discusses the interpretation of dreams and the art in playing and working with the dream maker. Be sure to read "The Artworker of Dreams." Jean Campbell, spokesperson for the World Dream Bridge updates you on the activities of their community. As usual, that creative bunch are unfolding helpful potentials across the world. This month Jean talks about how the group and its authors spontaneously feed off one another, and how you can join in as well. Be sure to read her column "A View from the Bridge." Keep in mind that the Fall PsiberDreaming Conference starts September 19th, and if you sign up before Sept 5th, you get a $5.00 discount. Even better, join ASD as a NEW member from August 8 - October 3, 2004, and as a bonus you can attend the 2004 PsiberDreaming Conference for free! For more information, read the invitation below from the Host, Ed Kellogg, Ph.D. Also, the International Association for the Study of Dreams has started a membership drive. Please read the letter from David Gordon, Membership Chair for ASD Janet Garrett has been working hard this month to bring the Electric Dreams Archives (our articles from the last ten years) up to date. This month she has added an Electric Dreams Contents Section to the list by author. You can see her work progress and view hundreds of article on dreams at: http://www.improverse.com/ed-articles/index.htm An expanding closet, a floating road, two cross dressers, and many snow white doves forming a big white cross then a large tornado… What do they have in common? They are in the Electric Dreams Dream Section. Be sure to read all of these dreams and more. If you want to send in dreams, enter them at http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple Many thanks to the Dream Section Editor, Kat Peters-Midland If you want to send in dreams, please enter them at http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple or join the dream flow at dreamflow@yahoogroups.com (dreamflow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com) -------------------- For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to stop by one of the many resources: http://www.dreamtree.com http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library Electric Dreams in PDF: (thanks to Nick Cumbo) http://electric.dreamofpeace.net/ http://www.dreamofpeace.net/community/electricdreams/ -------------------- Dreamin' up a storm, -Richard Wilkerson /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Global Dreaming News seeks new Editor – (volunteer position) If you feel you would be a good candidate to report the news that is going on in the dream world, be sure to contact Richard Wilkerson at rcwilk@dreamgte.com The GDNews editor will receive the support of the Electric Dreams staff in making contact with all the essential people in the dream world, and will be responsible for putting this information together once a month for publication. This is a really fun position and you can expand then news as you like. In the past, we have included reviews of dream books, dates for conferences, seminars, talks and other events, new websites and research news and requests. o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o PsiberDreaming Conference The Association for the Study of Dreams September 19, 2004 - October 3, 2004 Virtual Conference - Online Invitation from Host, Ed Kellogg, Ph.D. E-mail: alef1@msn.com o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o http://www.asdreams.org/psi2004/ Join some of the world's foremost experts on the subject of psi- dreaming for two weeks of cutting-edge papers, discussions, workshops, contests, and chats at a bargain price. If you've ever had a precognitive dream, a lucid dream, or simply an 'unusual dream' that puzzled you, this online conference seems the place for you. Past presenters include: Charles T. Tart, Ph.D., author of Altered States of Consciousness, Robert L. Van de Castle, Ph.D. author of Our Dreaming Mind, Rosemary Ellen Guiley, Ph.D. author of The Dreamer's Way, Robert Moss, author of Dreamgates, Marcia Emery, Ph.D., author of The Intuitive Healer, Alan Siegel, Ph.D., author of Dream Wisdom, Stephen LaBerge, Ph.D. author of Lucid Dreaming, Dale E. Graff, author of Tracks in the Psychic Wilderness, Stanley Krippner, Ph.D. co-author of Extraordinary Dreams, Jeffrey Mishlove, Ph.D., host of Thinking Allowed - and many others! Previous conferences brought in rave reviews: "Bravo!", "Incredible!", "a wonderful experience," "amazing!", "topnotch", "I am really thrilled," "great conference," "please, please do this frequently," "I don't know how many accolades I can give you, too many to count, I believe. The conference was simply great!! Good presenters, topics, participants, and great energy." If you missed the first two, make sure you attend the third! Features: 1. Online Presentations, including provocative papers and workshops on popular and cutting edge topics, such as: remote viewing, precognition, dream telepathy, mutual dreaming, psychopompic dreams, lucid dreaming, visionary dreaming, prodromal dreams, dream healing, the nature of dream reality, and dreaming as a spiritual practice. Workshops will provide resource lists for those who wish to explore topics in greater depth, and practical instructions for techniques or experiments detailed enough so that conference participants can try them out at home. 2. Dedicated PsiberDreaming Discussion Boards where participants can discuss each paper and workshop in depth with authors and other participants, and can post specific questions, etc. Links to relevant threads would appear conveniently at the end of each posted presentation, updated daily to show new threads of interest. 3. Scheduled Chats each week of the conference with presenters and/or other experts on cutting edge topics. 4. Numerous PsiberDreaming Events where participants can test their skills and explore different facets of paranormal dreaming, including dream telepathy and remote viewing, precognition, and mutual dreaming. Judges will evaluate how well dreamers tune into the designated targets, or how well dreamers perform a specific dream task. And ASD will provide prizes to the winners! 5. A PsiberDreaming Gallery of Dreams and Art. One section of this gallery will feature the "best of the best", graphic images of dream art selected from the submissions to past ASD conferences, formatted into a sequential point and click cyber tour. A second section of the gallery will provide a place where participants can display their own dream art (with accompanying dream text or dream poetry), sharing them with other participants. Event Dates and Costs: The PsiberDreaming Conference runs from September 21, through October 5, 2003. Online Participation Costs for both weeks (no one week rate): General Public $38! (US Dollars) ASD Members $33! (US Dollars) Students with valid ID $23! (no additional ASD discount) Note: we've deliberately set the price of attending this conference low to open this conference to interested participants worldwide. Please take advantage! http://www.asdreams.org/psi2004/ ------------------------ END NEWS ---------------------- o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange By Lucy Gillis o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o *************** An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange By Lucy Gillis LDE is pleased to present DreamSpeak: An Interview with a Lucid Dreamer. In this three part series, Robert Waggoner interviews long time lucid dreamer Beverly D'Urso. (Please note, as with all material in LDE, the author retains copyright of his or her material. In this interview, the questions are by Robert Waggoner and the responses are copyright of Beverly D'Urso.) DREAMSPEAK AN INTERVIEW WITH BEVERLY D'URSO: A LUCID DREAMER - PART THREE (c) Beverly D'Urso Questions by Robert Waggoner Beverly D'Urso (formerly Beverly Kedzierski, and also Bev Heart) is an incredible lucid dreamer. She served as Stephen LaBerge's main lucid dream research subject in the early years of his research work, and helped provide key insights into lucid dreaming. Interviewed by magazines, national and local television, and other media, Beverly has promoted a greater understanding of lucid dreaming and "lucid living." The LDE is pleased to provide a multi-issue interview of this fascinating lucid dreamer. Robert: How did your lucid dreaming develop after the birth of your son? Beverly: My mom was feeling better during the years after my son Adrian was born. She visited us often, and we would go to Chicago to see her, as well. Adrian and she became best friends. In the year 2000, I had the biggest challenge of my life. Adrian had started kindergarten. I talked to my mom on the phone almost every day. She was still living in my childhood home, near Chicago. Six days before her planned trip to visit us in California for the holidays, she drove a friend to lunch. That night she told her neighbor that she was feeling good. I had a dream that night, which I shared with Chris and Adrian during breakfast. In the dream, I went to help a woman I loved, who was hanging on her house by her fingertips. Soon, I was hanging by my fingertips, as well. Chris told us that he dreamed we were going on a trip, and I was quickly getting ready. That morning, in Chicago, my mother didn't answer her door, so her neighbor came in. She found my mom on the floor, next to her bed, unconscious. The doctors called me to say that my mom had had a sudden, massive stroke, and all four quadrants of her brain were instantly destroyed. She would only exist in a vegetative state. I needed to take her off life-support, as she requested in her living will. Chris, Adrian, and I flew to Chicago immediately. Needless to say, the next twelve days before Christmas were a very difficult and emotional time. Robert: I remember the year before my father passed away, I had a number of lucid and apparently precognitive dreams giving me information - but on one level, nothing can prepare you for it. How did you deal with this? Beverly: First, I needed to give the okay to remove her ventilator. Everyone thought that she would die at this point. The night before this was scheduled, I had a dream that my husband and I were at the edge of the beach. A tidal wave was coming. In the distance, we saw angels flying toward us in a "V" formation. We thought the tidal wave would demolish us, but instead, the angels flew right over our heads and protected us. This dream told me that I would be able to survive this ordeal. Coincidentally, the ventilator was removed at the exact time that her plane to California was scheduled to take off. However, she still lived, and we had more decisions to make. Do we give her an IV? Is glucose considered food? We did not want to prolong her life in this state. One time, I stayed up all night with her in the hospital. When I finally did go to bed, I had a dream of her. She said to me, "Get some sleep, I'll take care of the body." Finally, it was Christmas Eve. My mom and I had been together almost every year of my life at midnight Mass on Christmas Eve, in my hometown church. Christmas Eve was her favorite day of the year. She always said, "If we are ever lost, let's meet on this night at our church, in our regular seats". My mother died right at midnight, officially Christmas Day morning. After her funeral, I stayed alone in my childhood home for another few weeks, to go through fifty years of stuff that had been collected. I made the decision to rent out the house. Robert: That must have been an extremely difficult and emotional time. Did dreaming help, or was that painful too? Beverly: My life, as well as my dreams, was quite a struggle after this. In my dreams, I hated to see my mom, only to remember that she had died, which would happen when I was lucid. This was too much to handle. I didn't want to be reminded, once again, in the sleep state, that my mother had died. It was enough to deal with it while awake. I decided not to have lucid dreams for a while. I had a strong intent and a physical need for this to happen. I did have regular, non-lucid dreams of her. At each stage of my grief, these non-lucid dreams of my mother evolved. First, I dreamed of her and I doing our usual activities. I could have enjoyed these dreams, if I didn't have to feel such shock when I woke up and remembered that she had indeed died. Next, I started dreaming that my mother did not die after all. Then, I had dreams in which she had died, but mysteriously came back to life. I didn't question this in the dreams. I had many dreams of my childhood home during this time, as well. I did not get lucid, even with great clues, such as when house was changed in impossible ways. Things were very bizarre. Other people were living there, as was now the case with the renters, in reality. I felt angry and confused. I went to grief therapy for over a year. Using peer counseling and group sharing, I demonstrated more and more acceptance of my mother's death. Little by little, I took the knowledge of her death into my dreams and began to explain it to other dream characters. Finally, after explaining my mother's death to my "father" in a dream, I was able to interact with my "mother," and actually discuss her death. At this point, I had a significant degree of lucidity, and my dreams felt more comfortable, and sometimes enlightening. Robert: I recall that a month after my father's death, I became lucid and insisted on seeing my father. Amazingly, the dream characters told me that "no, it is too soon". So instead, I had a fascinating conversation with them. After that my dream characters in lucid dreams were quite supportive and caring, and I did go on to have lucid conversations with my deceased father. How did your lucid dreaming progress? Beverly: In the spring of the year 2002, a year and a half after my mother's death, the lease was up on my childhood home. I needed to sell the house. But could I? Spontaneously, I dreamed that I found the witches in my childhood home. I surrendered to them, and they pulled me under the closet door, where they came from. I merged with the witches. The biggest fears of my childhood were resolved. In my dreams, my fear was to go with the witches. In life, my fear was my mother's death. At last, I could sell the house easily, and I felt that I had healed quite a bit. In the last dream I had of my childhood home, I flew out the picture window like a powerful witch. After this, I would bring my mother into my dreams. We would embrace and I'd say, "I love you and I miss you, mom." Sometimes, in my dreams, I am still convincing her that she really died. This tells me that some level of grief still exists. One time, in a dream, I said to my mom, "You are safe now, you are in heaven!" I heard the message for myself, as I see my mother as part of my higher self, the Dreamer of life. I presented my grief dreams in a paper at ASD2003 called, "Witches, the House, and Grief: Developing and Avoiding Lucid Dreaming." I was now in a place to get on with discussing my work on "lucid living!" Robert: Yes, please tell us about lucid living. Beverly: Before I discuss lucid living, I need to define a few more terms. When discussing a non-lucid dream while awake, I refer to my dream self as "me" or "I," (as in: "I was flying") and I refer to my physical self (or part of my physical self's "mind") as the one who creates the dream, whom I call the dreamer. By definition then, I can not call my dream self the dreamer, although I recognize that some people do. Note, that I do not feel my physical self's brain contains my physical self's mind. I also assume that a "mind" is not physical. In a lucid dream, although I also refer to my dream self as "I", I can sense my connection to the dreamer, and I feel like a "larger, expanded self." Sometimes I even feel connected to what I'll later describe as the "Dreamer of life." Robert: So in a regular dream, you consider the dream creator as apart from the dream actor. But in a lucid dream, you are aware that the dream creator is also a portion of the dream actor, and in that sense, the awareness is expanded. Right? Beverly: Yes, but I'd clarify that in a regular, non-lucid dream, from the "perspective" of the dream actor, the dream creator seems to be separate or actually never even considered. Although I usually say that my dream exists in my physical self's mind, it usually feels as though my dream self, whom you have called the dream actor, and my physical self exist in separate dimensions, and when I "wake up", I change dimensions (or perspectives.) Most importantly, when I become lucid, I feel that my thoughts definitely do not come from my dream self's mind or brain, but from my physical self's mind. For example, my dream self will often have a different life, history, motivations, and goals than my physical self. So, to summarize, in a lucid dream I usually experience myself in a 3-dimensional, vivid world that I believe my physical self's mind has created. Therefore, I feel safe because I feel I exist in my physical self's mind and not in physical reality (where my physical body resides). Because I see the dream as being created by my physical self's mind, I also know that anything I (the dreamer) can imagine can happen. By believing that everyone and everything around me in the dream, including my dream self and other dream characters, exists in my physical self's mind, I experience everyone as "one", or "made of the same substance" and all "parts of a whole." Robert: Okay, I think I am following you. How does this relate to lucid living? Beverly: When I view my waking life as a dream, a dream in which I know I am dreaming (to various degrees, of course), I call this lucid living. Waking life may feel 'real' and unlike a 'dream,' merely because I lack lucidity, just as non-lucid dreams can feel like physical reality, until I become lucid. I try to view life as an "actual dream" and not to merely use lucid living as a therapy or philosophy. The assumptions that come from viewing life as a dream can be very powerful and can expand what we feel is possible in life. If I look at waking life as a dream, then I can also use lucid dreaming techniques that I learned from my sleeping dream experiences, to more easily become lucid in my waking life. When lucid in waking life, I can become more "free", have fun, accomplish goals, feel connected, and maybe even experience magic in my waking life, as I have in my sleeping lucid dreams. Robert: So you try to transpose the lessons and experiences of achieving results in lucid dreaming, to the world of waking reality. In so doing, you have used this knowledge and perception to support your experience of lucid living. Beverly: In lucid living, I think of our physical selves as dream selves in a dream called "waking life." I also imagine a Dreamer who is dreaming our lives. Note the capital "D" to distinguish from the use of dreamer as part of a physical self's mind. Sometimes, I view this Dreamer as some "Being" asleep in a bed in another dimension. Other times, I view the Dreamer as a nonphysical "God" or an all-encompassing, collective "Mind." I guess there could be levels of Dreamers as well. Either way, when I am lucid in waking life, I sense a connection to this Dreamer, whom I sometimes call my Higher-Self. I begin to respond to things from the perspective of this Dreamer. As in a lucid sleeping dream, I feel "safe," I believe in "limitless possibilities", and I see everyone in waking life as "one" or "parts of a whole." Robert: So how do you suggest one go about achieving this state, and living waking life lucidly? Beverly: Throughout my life, I have developed techniques for becoming lucid in my sleeping dreams, and I have found there are many uses for lucid dreaming. Some of these uses include: psychological development, trying new behaviors, healing, and more. I've found that all of my techniques, below, can apply, whether we find ourselves asleep or awake, i.e., in sleeping dreams or in waking life. To become lucid in my sleeping dreams, or in my waking life, I often look for unusual or impossible situations. In my sleeping dreams, I will often see someone who has died and that will clue me that I am dreaming. At times, in my waking life, especially during tense situations, I look for the unusual and wonder if I am dreaming. Without knowing for sure, I begin to find more evidence, my reactions turn powerful, and I began to relax. Robert: In other words, you use odd actions or events as a notice to step back from the event and become more broadly aware, just as we all do in lucid dreams. This is opposed to regular dreams or regular waking life, where, unaware, we let ourselves get more drawn into the odd or fearful event. In lucid living, you act like your lucid dreaming self, right? Beverly: Yes, sometimes I "act as if," or pretend I am dreaming. I often ask myself, or others, if I am dreaming. I also make sure to "test" if I am dreaming. An example of a test is when I try to float. If I do float, I know I am dreaming for sure, and I become lucid. I have not floated in my waking life, but I do not rule it out as an impossibility. I have become more open, for example, to stories of yogis levitating. Another valuable technique is to review recurring dreams and nightmares and practice imagining myself having new reactions. I have learned to modify my reaction to a monster in a recurring sleep-state nightmare. I have also changed my response to friends at key times in waking life. The key involves viewing the monster as part of my physical self's mind, in the case of the nightmare. In the waking life situation, I view my friends as part of my Higher-Self, or the Dreamer of life. When trying to become lucid in my sleeping dreams, and in my waking life, I find it valuable to get myself motivated. For example, I can teach or take a class on lucid dreaming or lucid living. It helps to record, share, and visualize my sleeping dreams and my waking life situations. I especially like to do exercises to help me become lucid in both sleeping dreams, and in waking life. Robert: Could you tell us about a possible exercise to become more lucid in either state? Beverly: Here is an example of an exercise. I stop and I ask myself if I could be dreaming several times a day, perhaps every time I wash my hands, or climb down steps, or do some activity that doesn't happen too often or too seldom. What I practice while awake, I eventually find myself doing in my sleeping dreams, so this technique helps me become lucid both in my waking and sleeping states. One of the most valuable tools I have used for motivating me to become lucid in sleeping dreams involves setting goals. Sometimes, I become lucid and decide not to change the direction of my dream, in order to carry out a goal. In this case, I go with the flow of the dream. However, when I do have an interesting goal, I get motivated to become and remain lucid. In my lucid dreaming classes, I suggest that my students start with a simple goal to accomplish in their lucid dream. I ask them to decide the first steps that they can accomplish from wherever they might find themselves, and I tell them to decide this ahead of time, while awake. I find that a goal of "becoming lucid" does not work as well as a goal of doing something fun in the limitless world of dreams. This applies to waking life as well. As a sleeping lucid dreamer, I learned to remain in my dreams, to wake up out of them, to change them, to go back into them, to become more lucid, and to accomplish intricate goals within them. I would like to do this in my waking state as well. Robert: Well that sounds like something anyone could try. But what about lucid living? Beverly: There are aspects of lucid dreaming that apply to lucid living and can help us live our lives more fully. In waking life, we may identify our physical bodies with our selves. The same thought occurs in non-lucid dreams, where we identify our dream bodies with our selves. We may believe that if our dream body dies, we die. We feel this way because we are not aware of our physical self in non-lucid dreams. We continue to feel this way until we wake up out of the dream and discover that the dream happened in our "mind" and not in "reality". We think, after the fact that we could have responded differently had we realized that we'd dreamed. Of course, even in sleeping lucid dreams, we might not, for example, jump off a cliff, if we didn't feel positive that we were dreaming, and that we could, for example, merely fly away. We might just continue to dream that we had a very bad accident. In general, after waking up from dreams, we don't think that our dream bodies have 'died,' but understand that we have merely switched focus. Will we someday wake up out of our lives and merely change focus as well? Our goal, then, in lucid living, involves learning to respond differently, at times, and with less fear in our waking lives. We do not need to wait until 'after the fact' to realize that we could have responded more fully and with more freedom in our lives. Instead, we can 'wake up within our waking life!' Robert: It's interesting in lucid dreaming, and perhaps this goes for lucid living as well, that a broader awareness leads to the realization of a new type of relationship with the so-called reality around you. In turn, the aware person begins to act in that so-called reality in a new way. In lucid living, are one's actions different? Beverly: Yes. For example, lucid dreamers have experienced the amazing feeling of having an exciting goal for a dream and making it happen. We can experience the joy of making things happen more often in our waking state, by learning to become lucid in waking life and set upon accomplishing tasks with a new outlook that anything is possible. At the very least, we can probably gain an understanding of how we may block our selves and try again, knowing we have endless possibilities. An example, from an early stage of my sleeping lucid dream development, illustrates this point. In my dream, I could not fly to my destination because I kept hitting telephone poles. When I decided that "this is my dream," I was able to fly right through the poles. I also realized that it was my physical self's mind that created the telephone poles to begin with! When we increase our lucidity in waking life, we can also feel a sense of oneness with everyone and everything. We can live as if our Higher-Self does indeed "create our own reality." We can experience an altered state of consciousness, and at the extreme, we can have what one might call "mystical experiences." Robert: Okay, but even in some of our lucid dreams, we become frustrated - we can't fly very well, or the dream characters won't do what we want them to do. What about those cases? Beverly: In lucid dreams, I try to remember that all the dream characters make up parts of my dreamer's mind. Similarly, the next time we find ourselves in an undesirable situation in our waking life, we can take action with the belief that other people make up parts of our Higher-Self, the Dreamer. This can help us to stop and listen to what others have to say, not because we have been taught to, but because we want to understand the Dreamer. Like puppets who act as though they are separate and disconnected, we often feel disconnected. Using the puppet analogy, we can begin to identify more with the puppeteer, realizing that it is the puppeteer who makes everything happen. Robert: Well, I'm not too happy with the word, "puppet", but I do get the point that the creator of the dream/waking reality is also involved, consciously or not, with the creations in that dream/waking reality. So there is a connection there, if we are lucid enough to wake up to it. Do you have examples of lucid living that would demonstrate your point? Beverly: Remember, the true puppet has no more or less powers than the puppeteer. In essence they are "one and the same!" Here are a few examples of how I have become lucid in my waking life. Once, during an argument with my cousin in the waking state, I suddenly stopped to think, "If I look at this as a dream right now, then my cousin actually expresses a part of the Dreamer (my Higher-Self.) At that exact moment, I acted from the perspective of the Dreamer, and she actually started to explain how our points of view seemed related instead of opposed. Another time, a friend, in the waking state, was yelling and hovering over me like the witches from my sleeping dreams. I noticed the similarities to the witch nightmares, and I saw this as a pattern in my life. The situation actually happened in the same physical place in my house with different people. I faced up to my friend like I faced up to the witches, without fear, but with acceptance, and my friend suddenly stopped, walked away, and the pattern in my life ended, in the same way my witch nightmares ceased. My marriage, my child, my degrees, my career, and my amazing adventures, too numerous to mention, are all examples of how lucid living has assisted me in having such an incredible and diverse life. Robert: For many of us longtime lucid dreamers, we have similar stories. But do you think these ideas can be accepted by someone new to lucid dreaming? Beverly: In my experience as a lucid dreaming teacher, my students found it easier to become lucid in their sleeping dreams, once they understood the concept and believed it possible. When they began to question whether or not they dreamed and looked for evidence, they often noticed something unusual and became lucid. Once they had experienced results, they no longer had to believe, they knew they could become lucid. We can do the same with lucid living. Perhaps people would accept psychic phenomena, or synchronicities in waking life, more readily if they viewed waking life as a dream. Viewing life as a dream, gave me a foundation for understanding how I could possibly have had my first amazing, precognitive dreams. Psychic phenomena could also serve as clues for becoming lucid in waking life. Robert: You know, I have often thought that in life, we simply live our assumptions. In lucid dreams, you begin to see that idea in an immediate sense. When you change your expectations in a lucid dream, the dream changes to accommodate the changes. It seems the same thing happens in waking life. Beverly: Yes, I believe lucid living can have a profound effect on all our lives. Of course, as in our sleeping dreams, we can easily go on automatic and lose lucidity. However, the more we practice lucid dreaming skills, whether when asleep or during our waking life, the more likely we will become lucid at all times. By practicing lucid living, we strive to live the most illuminating, clear, and conscious waking life as possible. We can also obtain a greater understanding of what spiritual practices, great writers, movies, fairy tales, and songs have been telling us for ages: Hindu Maya: Waking life is an illusion; Buddhist: Philosophy of Connectedness; Christianity: Resurrection after death; The Course of Miracles: Live the Happy Dream; The Wizard of Oz: There's no place like home; Shakespeare: All the world's a stage; Star Trek: Holodeck; The Matrix: The world has been pulled over your eyes to blind you to the truth. The list goes on and on. My favorite is: Row, Row, Row, your boat, gently down the stream, merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream. Robert: Beverly, thanks for your sage advice and insights. Life is but a dream. ******************************** The Lucid Dream Exchange is a quarterly newsletter featuring lucid dreams and lucid dream related articles and interviews. To subscribe to The Lucid Dream Exchange send a blank email to: TheLucidDreamExchange-subscribe@yahoogroups.com You can also check us out at www.dreaminglucid.com o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o The Artworker of Dreams © 2004 Linda Lane Magallon o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o "What does this dream mean?" I wanted to know, so I brought it to my dream group. A couple of the members had co-starred in the dream, so I hoped they could help me decipher it. ____________________ I'm in a room at an adult summer camp with several dreamworkers. Clarke is complaining about the fact that "they" starved us all summer and now are serving us leftovers in order to get rid of them before the end of the season. Greg says that they are "the therapists." "They wouldn't even let me move my desk in," he complains, gesturing toward the other side of the room. "What is this about?" I ask. It seems that the therapists who run this camp are a tight click, jealous of sharing with outsiders. Then I'm outdoors with Greg. It turns out he's a field worker. He shows me how he peers underneath the surface of the ground. Is he looking for quartz crystals? I wonder. No, he's looking for evidence of earthquake faults. When he leaves to continue searching, a dark-haired therapist nearby makes a frowning comment that Greg was probably hanging around, spying. "No, I don't think so," I say, watching his retreating form as he walks down the sloping path. Then I wonder, what could the therapists have that they would be so concerned about? The dark-haired man has turned and gone up some naturally carved steps in the mountain, disappearing through an opening in the rock. I follow him. When I get to the top and look through the archway, I am amazed. Inside is a room with the feel of a Renaissance art workshop. Here the therapists have secreted all these quality old tools to produce prime works of art which they keep hidden in closets. There are a couple of works by Michaelangelo and copies using models from the present (I see a painting that features Bette Davis, for example). I turn to view the countryside and see that there is a lake and small canyon in front of the mountain. Some folks are walking by and some are standing still, including Clarke, who is waiting for me. "Hey!" I yell at everybody. "Look at this!" ____________________ My dream group consisted of people who were professionals in the fields of therapy, counseling, education and art. There were even art therapists and creativity teachers. I was delighted to discover that they thought that the dream applied to them as much as to me. We had gathered to do dreamwork: to analyze and interpret the symbols in our dreams and to apply resolving techniques to the conflicts, stresses and "faults" that they incorporated. One favorite method was to ask of the dream, "What's missing here?" What would be required to calm the conflicts or relieve the stress? My dream seemed to provide the answer. The aspect hiding in the cave was the creative-artist side of ourselves, they decided. It was the side that could draw a dream, sing a dream, dance a dream or write a story about a dream. They thanked me for pointing that out to them. This interpretation made logical sense. But my emotions didn't concur. There was no intuitive "Aha!"; no instinctual "Yes!" to confirm the response. I drove home dissatisfied and tried out a few more dreamwork methods. I felt the answer was partially right. But there definitely was something missing. My attention kept returning to those Michaelangelo paintings. I knew there was an artisan concealed in that cave, but who was it? The group had assumed that hidden aspect was the creative muse who shines through their waking efforts. The one who takes a dream, an unresolved dream, and finishes it. Uses creative process to produce a product inspired by a dream. Uses creative process to interpret a dream. After the dream has ended. However, I was beginning to understand that the dream itself could be an artistic creation and that I didn't have to complete it when I woke up. There was an inner genius-in-potential who was perfectly capable of producing a finished product all by herself. And did, sometimes. Unfortunately, there was also great resistance to that effort from the people who lived outside the cave. The father of dreamwork started it. Freud's theory of dreams presumed that we repress our dreams and he probably would have interpreted the cave as a female symbol of unbirthed, unfulfilled sexual desires. Well, creativity is a birthing process, so he was partly right. I doubt that he would have discovered just who could be born because he tried to repress that child, too. Freud believed that dreams solve the problems of waking life by disguising obvious content with symbolic imagery "in the manner of an irrational wish and not in the manner of a reasonable reflection." Because of this, he had a hard time dealing with "well-constructed" dreams in which some intellectual or reasoning faculty seemed to be present. So he demoted coherently structured dreams to the class of "dream fantasies." He reserved "true dream" status only for those productions in which the disguising process was evident to him. But that approach was not nurturing us. In the dream, we dined only on Freud's "day residue," the leftovers of the day. And we were starving. The dream suggested where we were doing this. Most of us attended an event during the summertime, which was sort of a "camp" for dreamers. It was the annual conference of the Association for the Study of Dreams. ASD has always had a large contingent that favors Carl Jung and the archetypal cave and Renaissance imagery in the dream is very Jungian. Jung had a name for his coherent dreams-he called them "big dreams." But most of the dreams brought to the dream group weren't big dreams. They were little puzzles with something lacking. Missing pieces, not masterpieces. They were incomplete creations that needed to be propped up by amplification, filled in with free association. And that's exactly the sort of dream I was trying *not* to have. I'd been trying to have big dreams on purpose. I was attempting to produce a dream that was a story with a beginning, a middle and an end, a climax and a conclusion. I wanted a satisfying short story that I could read from my dream journal and relish, just like I enjoyed the entertaining tales in the paperback books I took on summer vacation. I was close to achieving this goal. My inner dream creator was beginning to produce, if not masterpieces, then some pretty good child's artwork. I was overjoyed at the change in dream themes and my usual visual effects. Dreaming was now so much fun! So I took my tiny treasures out of the cave and brought them to the dream group. "Hey, look at this!" I said. I was proud of my creative child. From creative people, I expected a warm welcome for her. And I didn't get it. Oh, sure, they were polite enough. They'd nod their heads and smile and make a few comments. For about 5 minutes. And then we'd go on to the next member of the group who had a conflicted dream, an unresolved dream that was fair game for interpretation techniques...that would take, oh, 15, 20, 30 minutes. I remember once we spent 3 friggin' hours on one person's troubled dream. I felt uneasy. It just wasn't fair Đ to me, or to my inner child. It seemed we couldn't play with the rest of the kids because we hadn't brought the right kind of toys. Now, don't get me wrong. My inner child has been abused, too; I've had a lifetime of conflicted dreams. I was attracted to dreamwork to help her recover from her wounds and she was benefiting from it. But I'm afraid I birthed an over-achiever. People used to say, "Oh, Linda, you are so lucky to have big dreams!" and I'd protest, "But I incubated them!" Go forth! Out of the confining dungeon Into the whispered breeze. Seize the present moment Sure and firm Stable house of your soul. Sense the outer oboe rhythms And unfurl your hair. Dance the music of the hearers; Sing the science of your being. Shout the word of encouragement Back within The open doors. Yes, like everyone else, I enjoyed creativity after the dream, too. I drew, pictured, made poetry of my dreams. Eventually, I discovered that some of those *after* effects were actually incubating new dreams. So I switched intentions. Now, I wasn't just celebrating the achievements of the past, I was encouraging productivity for the future. I had this revolutionary idea that if I'd help my inner child *before* I slept, she wouldn't have to battle her way through the dream. Instead of spending precious time and energy dealing with conflicts, she'd have the wherewithal to create those masterpieces. And the idea was working! So I brought it to the group and ran flat into a brick wall. At first I thought it was because I was an active dreamer, and they were passive, but that really didn't fit everyone. Quite a few were lucid dreamers and even more used incubation techniques. Then I thought, well, maybe it's because they think a coherent dream can't be interpreted. But of course it can, just like waking life. Finally, I found myself discussing big dreams with a fellow dreamworker. She'd had only a couple and she treasured them for their special impact and meaning. Didn't want to have any more, lest they lose that special impact and meaning. Kept them hidden in her cave. Thought that the light of day would leach the gold from her dream treasures. Then I got it. What do folks ask about dreams? "What does this dream mean?" is what they ask. But some, the creative ones especially, really don't want an answer. An answer closes the cycle. It stops their creative process. And most importantly, it solves the mystery. So a lot of dreamwork methods really do not reach closure. They just produce more and more information in an ever-expanding universe of speculation. Suddenly my dilemma became clear. I was running up against the dreamwork assumption that a coherent dream holds no mystery and allows no room for unsolved creative process. But that's not how I had experienced my big dreams at all! I had honed the art of incubation, then discovered I was nurturing the artist within the dream. I had learned that if I took a vacation from the presumption that dreams are only translations of the traumas of waking life, my inner child would stop painting just chunks of black and blue and start experiencing the wonder and mysteries of the inner universe. However, I didn't seem to be able to convince my fellow dreamworkers that such an approach was beneficial -- maybe even more beneficial than the way we had been doing things. Why wouldn't the attempt to produce wholesome dreams be healthy? Why wouldn't celebrating the development of our inner children be wise? Of course, if all we do is do dreamwork on one dream, like it's a single entity in a vacuum, then we probably won't see that dreams or dreamers are capable of development. We wouldn't be able to track progress over time. I could. I kept a dream journal and reviewed it, continually. I wanted to see if what I was doing in waking life was actually helping my inner child of dreams. Or hindering her. Then, one night, I had this dream. ____________________ I am teaching the universe to dream. We start with a dream that appears as a written report but feels sad, upset and dejected. I tell my listeners to pick a bright, positive dream from their past, one that was self-confident and superheroic, and insert it into the first dream. We place it into the lower right hand corner of the dream report. At first this seems like an artificial intrusion, a harsh contrast to the sensitivity of the primary dream. But as I wait and watch, the positive dream seeds itself in the fertile darkness of the negative one. The brightness becomes a warm glow that spreads throughout the dream report. Finally there is just a small corner of gentle negativity in the upper left hand corner of the dream report, a subtle reminder of the background to this complete dream. ____________________ As if to underline this lesson for me, my inner child then produced for me, in quick succession, a flying dream, a lucid dream and an out-of-body experience. Again, I took my dream to the group and they Ohhed and Ahhed as usual, treating my dream like some kind of exotic house plant. But this time I didn't try to convince them to change their ways. I had realized that they weren't the one who needed inspiration. It was their hidden aspects, their inner children of dreams. My conscious ideas might provide some second-hand suggestions, but the only one who could talk their language was my own inner child. When I read the dream, my intent was to serve as a channel for her. Be her mouthpiece. Say what she wanted to say. Did this work? Yes, I think so. Every once in a while, when outer defenses were down, the inner children of my fellow dreamworkers would sneak in some real nifty dreams. Not always, but enough to keep hope alive. I can't help but wonder what would have happened if they had consciously cooperated with their inner children. My creative child had came a'taping on my cave door. She wanted out, she wanted to play. And she wanted playmates to create big dreams. But I had no dreamwork technique, no toy, no game to involve my fellow dreamers and their inner children every time we met in dream group. So the two of us played. Alone. http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html (Dream Flights) o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o THE VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE Jean Campbell August, 2004 Making Book o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o It would be hard to find a group more creative than the dreamers of the World Dreams Peace Bridge, which counts among its members several published authors and poets, graphic artists and musicians. This may say something about the value of dream work, and it may say something about the relationship between dreaming and creativity, but one thing it definitely speaks about is the constant creative impulse among members of the Peace Bridge. This month, it was a book--among other things. You may remember that during the first year of the Peace Bridge (and we're nearing the end of our third year now), Valley Reed from Dallas, Texas created a dance from a book she had written with her little girl, a dream book. Valley, who has recently come back to the Bridge, and her little girl often create books from their dreams. The story of "The Crow and the Phoenix" came from a dream, and was danced at the 2002 Regional ASD conference in Cincinnati, Ohio. (Photos of this dance can be seen at asdreams.org/conferences/2002cincinnati/crow_and_phoenix.htm Since those days, the idea of writing books has come up regularly on the Bridge, either through the individual works of members or through the impulse to write a book together, to fund some of the growing number of Peace Bridge projects. This month, George Gillespie, who is still working on his book describing various visual phenomena associated with dreams, forwarded one of his early short stories (based on a dream) "The Gold Bottle" to be put up on the World Dreams web site at http://worlddreamspeacebridge.org/georgestory.htm . May Tung, who recently finished her memoir about life in China and other parts of the world, has offered encouragement to other writers on the Bridge, including Donna Stein, whose editorial work has brought to life the journal Tiferet ( http://www.tiferetjournal.com/ ); Jeremy Seligson, who read from his most recent book of poetry (accompanied in dance and reading by daughter Eloisa); and Jean Campbell, who finished the first Dream Scouts Adventure book, *Under the Crystal Tree* this year ( www.imageproject.org/scouts ). All in all, a pretty verbal bunch. During August though, Ralf began a conversation about dreaming monsters. And I (having had considerable experience with monsters) quoted the man who taught me Energetic Metatherapy, a form of bioenergetic therapy, Hector Kuri-Cano, Ph.D., from Guadalajara, Mexico. "Our monsters hold our energy," Hector would say. "We need to get acquainted with our monsters, learn to love our monsters." I recounted the story of how, after having encountered a particularly frightening monster during a period of awake sleep paralysis, I got acquainted with this aspect of myself by taking my monster for a walk in the park. This is not quite so absurd as it sounds, when you consider that I actually walk each morning in a park near my house. Since it is daybreak when I walk, and there are very few people around, I felt comfortable to act out my monster while walking, kicking plastic trash cans and making claws of my hands. This story brought a response from Victoria Quinton in Australia, who sent a link to a photo of a dream drawing her daughter Emily had done at age six. In the drawing, a little girl walks a dragon on a chain. The dragon is floating higher than the house. In turn, Emily's drawing sparked the fire of creativity in Kathy Turner, who promptly wrote a story for a children's picture book, *The Little Dragon Walker.* "Wouldn't it' be great," Kathy said, "if the book could find a publisher and be sold with benefits going to the Aid for Traumatized Children Project? (See the story of this project and current World dreams work in Baghdad at http://worlddreamspeacebridge.org/aidforchildren.htm ). And that question set off a flurry of activity. People began sending links to their favorite publishers, talked about the best way to approach a publishing house, and wondered about how to illustrate such a manuscript. Then another delightful thin happened. Joy Fatooh, who works as a wildlife biologist but is also a wonderfully talented illustrator, volunteered to provide the illustrations. (See samples of Joy's work at http://fatooh.org/art/ ). It appears that, in matters of creativity as well as in matters of dreams, the synergy of group process can lead everyone involved to greater levels of productivity--not to mention exuberant enjoyment. Should anyone who reads this, know of a publisher who might be interested in *The Little Dragon Walker* or other dream-related stories, we hope you will let us know. You can write to me directly, at jccampb@aol.com, or you can send an email from the "contact us" section of the web site at www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Dream: On Thin Ice Stan Kulikowski II o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o DATE : 23 aug 2004 06:10 DREAM : on thin ice =( yesterday was sunday. most of the day i sat in a chair reading another romantic escape novel. my feet ache when i walk and my right leg hurts most of the time from the nerve damage of late onset diabetes which i acquired this summer. just today i started measuring what little i eat, but the labels are not very clear on several of the packaged soup tins. i got to bed around midnight and was to sleep within an hour, mostly due to the pain pills and the sleeping pills which have me sleeping more six hours a night now, but rarely do i dream anymore. )= there is a loud cracking sound and i hear a man yell. looking over to the side i see him throw his arms out, trying to achieve a balance, but the ground underneath him is fracturing rapidly into little cubes. soon there is not enough surface to sustain him and the man falls rapidly into a puddle of blood. with a cry of despair, his body sinks out of sight. his hands extended upwards towards heaven in hope of rescue are the last i see of him. no one ever tries to swim in the karmic blood sea that underlies india. from the edges of the hole where the man just sank, i can see that the white crystalline crust is about six to ten centimeters thick. i know from experience that the floating shards are not cold like ice, but we refer to the slippery crust that we walk on as 'ice' anyway. the blood sea underneath is slightly less than body temperature and it never congeals. i hurry past the place where the doomed man sank. eventually, perhaps in weeks or months, this newly opened hole will fuse back together, but everyone knows that the crust is always weakened in the place of a recent death. as i walk, the line of my crack extends under me step by step. everyone in india leaves a mark of their karma extending as a fracture line behind them. this crack usually does not make any sound unless you happen to cross your own line. then a circular hole appears at the juncture with a slight pinging sound as a squirt of the blood spurts up on the surface. perforated juncture holes will eventually heal over, but the fault lines which create them do not. junctures usually happen only from crossing your own path, so our movements here are very deliberate. never cross your own lines, especially in a small confined area. but in some cases your karma may interact sufficiently with some one else to create a mutual zone of rupture. if you know a person well enough, you understand how to avoid crossing their lines in the confusing mass of cracks in the land. but, as fate has it, karma extends over different lifetimes, so two strangers in this life may meet to find the surface beneath them breaks open and suddenly swallows them. soon i greet a friend of mine. i keep enough distance so our cracks will not conjoin. "i have bad news." he tells me. "i have been to the himalaya mountains. i had thought that the crust of the land would be thicker there, but it is not. i have calculated that given just the right distribution of perforations the entire continent could overturn. there is insufficient mass in the crust to sustain the population. given the thousands of people who sink everyday, it is only a matter of time before we are all doomed." i wonder if there is any place on earth where it is safe to live. =( i wake around 05:30, but it takes me a while to decide that i am sufficiently awake to enter this dream into my computer files. the interpretative associations here are rather obvious i think. a few days ago i finished reading a book named, zemindar, which was a long bleak tale about india during the sepoy revolt of 1857. the earth being a temporary residence above a consuming sea of despairing blood seems an obvious poetic relation to my recent health problems. every morning i see dark blood as i perform the diabetes tests. in waking life, every step i take hurts. in this dream, it did not hurt to walk but every step damages the earth a little. i suppose that the apocalyptic prediction about the whole continent going at once is the self perspective of mortality-- since i am to die, so will everyone else all at once. )= . === the arts which help all mankind | | cannot help their master stankuli@etherways.com --- -- john dowland (1604) o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Research Request: Dreams of the 2004 US Presidential Election Have you or anyone you know dreamed about the 2004 US Presidential election? For example, dreams about the candidates (e.g., George W. Bush, John Kerry, Dick Cheney, John Edwards, Ralph Nader), the major issues (e.g., terrorism, war in Iraq, economy), and/or the election process itself? If yes, please contact Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D. at for inclusion in an ongoing research project on dreams and politics. In addition to describing the dream(s) in as much detail as possible, please also include the dreamer's age, gender, state of residence, political affiliation, and ideas about what the dream(s) might mean. All dream reports will be kept confidential, and if you like you will receive comments about your dreams from Dr. Bulkeley. o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o From: David Gordon Membership Chair International Association for the Study of Dreams August 25, 2004 International ASD Member-Get-A-Member Drive |+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+| Dear International ASD Member, We've changed our name this year to the International Association for the Study of Dreams reflecting our wish to reach out to the many others interested, as you are, in dreams. Today we are requesting your assistance in further expanding our membership so that our organization can grow to its fullest potential. We ask you to speak with friends and colleagues to let them know about the many benefits of joining the International ASD, and forward this email to them by clicking on this link (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M6498212489640878015055&iEvent=5 1237) so they can take advantage of our special offer to new members. Anyone who joins the International ASD as a first-time new member between August 8th and October 3rd will receive free enrollment in our annual on-line PsiberDreaming Conference, which runs this year from September 19th - October 3rd. This conference offers two weeks of papers, workshops and discussion on lucid dreaming, precognitive dreaming and other psi dreaming topics. Participants from around the world will enjoy interacting with some of the world's foremost dream experts. And, after October 3rd, conference proceedings become available to participants in archive form for an additional two weeks. Here's a sampling of what's available: Online Presentations including provocative papers and workshops on popular and cutting edge topics, such as remote viewing, precognition, dream telepathy, mutual dreaming, psychopompic dreams, lucid dreaming, visionary dreaming, prodromal dreams, dream healing, the nature of dream reality, and dreaming as a spiritual practice. Workshops will provide resource lists for those who wish to explore topics in greater depth, and practical instructions for techniques or experiments detailed enough so that conference participants can try them out at home. Dedicated PsiberDreaming Discussion Boards where participants can discuss each paper and workshop in depth with authors and other participants and post specific questions. Scheduled Chats each week of the conference with presenters and/or other experts on cutting edge topics. Numerous PsiberDreaming Events where participants can test their skills and explore different facets of paranormal dreaming, including dream telepathy and remote viewing, precognition, and mutual dreaming. Judges will evaluate how well dreamers tune into designated targets, or how well dreamers perform a specific dream task. And the International ASD will provide prizes to the winners! A PsiberDreaming Gallery of Dreams and Art. One section of this gallery will feature the "best of the best" graphic images of dream art selected from the submissions to past International ASD conferences. You'll even be able to participate in an easy point and click cyber tour. A second section of the gallery will provide a place where participants can display their own dream art (with accompanying dream text or dream poetry), sharing them with other participants. So ask a friend or associate to sign up as a member now online at: http://www.ASDreams.org/idxmembership.htm (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M6498215489640878015055&iEvent=5 1237) . After signing up they can then complete the Conference registration form at http://www.ASDreams.org/psi2004/index.htm (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M6498216489640878015055&iEvent=5 1237) . Of course we'd also love to see you there! With your help, your dreams and a just a little effort on the part of each one of us, International ASD will continue to grow and thrive. Thanks once again for your support! David Gordon Membership Chair International Association for the Study of Dreams +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Dream Section is edited by _ An expanding closet, a floating road, two cross dressers, and many snow white doves forming a big white cross then a large tornado… What do they have in common? They are in the Electric Dreams Dream Section. Be sure to read all of these dreams and more. If you want to send in dreams, enter them at http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple Dream title: none Dream date: 7-20-2004 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I got a call from my mother's house that someone was around the house who shouldn't have been there. I was with my boyfriend, who was a famous actor. He took me to my mother's house and we looked around. I went to my old room and took off my shoes while my boyfriend went off somewhere. I went outside through the back and I saw this guy without clothes and I got scared. He changed into a minister's costume and went off. I called for my boyfriend and he came in with a cigarette. I told him that if he wanted to meet my mother and family, he said "sure". I took him to the living room and the Christmas tree was up. I said to my mother "this was my partner" and I introduced him to everyone. I told them that I was gay. And he told me that we should go now, and I gave my mother my phone number just case some thing was going to happen. I went into my room and tried to put on my shoes and was not able to tie them quickly. I grab some clothes and my shoes and went to my boyfriend's jeep. We headed back to his place, as I was telling him about my home town. We landed up in the mountains. My boyfriend was upset with me. He said "they are really nice but you said something to them that wasn't right". I asked him about him being my partner, he said yeah. I told him oh yeah I forget my boyfriend doesn't do partners. We were lost in the mountains and out of nowhere he asked if I like to stay up in the mountains for a couple of days, and I said yes. Then he calls hotel. We get out of his jeep, go for a little hike, and see a little zoo. The first animal that we saw was a saber tooth tiger and there were seals on the other side. As we went on, my boyfriend started to walk ahead as I stopped to see the female elks. I explained to him how I thought they where so beautiful. Then there were these chickens and roosters loose and started to chase me. Then I wake up. Dream comments: I woke up because the T.V. was turned off. Dream title: Take care of some one's kid Dream Date: 20 Jul 2004 Dreamer name: SS Dream text: I had a dream that someone gave me her kid, a 4 to 6 month old girl, to take care of her. she told me that she is going to sleep all day and the only thing I have to do is to change diapers once a day, but I totally left the kid and went out with a group of people who I don't know who they were, although I was with a lots of people I was feeling so lonely, I didn't have any friend and I wasn't talk to any one. Then I came back to check on her and some thing happened again and I left. Every time that I came to change her or feed her, something happened and I couldn't do that. Dream title: Smoking high Dream date: 7-2004 Dreamer name: hero Dream text: I am watching a fire from a palm tree. Then I began to put out the fire. I didn't really see the fire only smoke, but the neighbor house was on fire. Dream comments: what does this mean? Dream title: weird Dream date: July 2, 2004 Dreamer name: J Dream text: I had a dream that my teeth were big. One hurt so I touched it and I pulled it out like nothing. I could actually feel the pain in my mouth. Dream comments: I just wanted to know if it has a meaning because my sister had the same dream a couple of weeks ago. She said it hurt, like if we could actually feel the pain. Dream title: Guardian Dream Dream date: 21 Jul 2004 Dreamer name: KB Dream text: I start in a large area outside that looks like the college I go to. I see the friend of mine (the one I have a crush on) near a tree crying. I ask her what's wrong and there is no reply. Then I stayed by her and felt a rush of energy, kind of like Final Fantasy 6, when Cyan when he found his wife and son killed by poisoning by Kefka. I turn in to a wolf to guard her from any one who gets near her, but no one bothers us. I stay as the wolf to give her a pet, to stand by her and to let her have a friend. She hugs me when I am still in wolf form. Then I wake up. Dream title: My ex boyfriend dying Dream date: 20th July 2004 Dreamer name: cc Dream text: I was talking to my dad then my ex-boyfriend's ex- girlfriend came to my house to tell me that my ex-boyfriend had died in a fire. Then we both started crying and we were really upset. I can't really remember what else happened but I remember his name was printed in a newspaper. Dream comments: Please publish this because I think it has a meaning Dream title: The long drive Dream date: December 7th, 1999 Dreamer name: L Dream text: I had to drive and I was scared to but I had to. I got in the car and started driving, I was so scared. I could feel it - it was like real life. I stopped and tried to get out. All of a sudden my grandpa appeared in the car and he just stared at me. I still kept trying to get out but the car wouldn't open. I kept driving. Then it appeared that the road was floating over everything and all the people. There was no room to turn around and there was no extra space to get out. There was nothing except people watching from below. The road came to an end and I couldn't get out or turn around. I couldn't do anything, except for to wake up. Dream comments: The next day after I had that dream my grandfather died. That was the scariest. I still continue to have this very same dream. Dream title: Fish Dream date: 07/21/04 Dreamer name: beauty212 Dream text: I was with people that I don't even know and they were telling me to try this weird fish I have never seen before. The person kept saying "try it; it's like sushi" so I started to try it. As I got it close to my mouth, the fish came out of the skin and it was very slimy. It started jumping and moving. It was like the size of my hand. Dream comments: Does anyone know what this mean? Dream title: None Dream date: 7-24-04 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I was at a party. When it ended, I went to a house and went through a window and I got caught by a lady. She told her husband to call the cops and my friend; my cousin and I went through the whole house to get out. As her family was getting there, we just walked out, like nothing. Her mom grabbed me by my arm and told me to stay. So I told her to get her hands off me. As I walked away, she told the cops "those girls are getting away" and we three girls took off. Dream comments: what does it mean? Help me understand it if you can. Dream title: sacrifice and death - 07/22/04 Dream Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 Dreamer name: DV Dream text: My son is sitting on my husband's lap and all of a sudden inappropriate material pops onto the computer screen. I rush to the door to keep other children out and he fumbles to erase the images on the screen. My son sees the image and walks over to me and says so that is what a xxxx job looks like with a big smile. Next, someone is asking me to sacrifice my beloved dog to save someone's life. I reluctantly agree. The person proceeds to stab me in the heart and I am fearful of the pain. After the knife enters there is a quick pain and then peace. I look over and my dog is dead. I am extremely upset over this and wish I had said no. I then find out that a family member of one of my enemies has died. I am very sad about her death; I then find out that a close friend of mine is dead. I try calling her mother but I can't reach her. I am crying. I am so sad. Dream title: deep, deeper, really deep water Dream date: 7/22-7/23-7/24 Dreamer name: sf Dream text: I have had the same dream 3 nights in a row. The first night I was in my childhood home town in a field I knew by a creek. I go down by the creek and I see a little boy swimming in the water. Then all of a sudden I see a crocodile swimming in the direction of the little boy. So I run up from the river bed and go to the top of the bridge and start to yell at the kid to get out. I see the crocodile grab the kid; I feel stunned and for a moment I don't know what to do and stand there in like a trance. For one reason or another I jump up on the bridge side and decide to jump in and try to save the child. I know in my heart I will more than likely not be able to save the little boy, and more than likely end up dead my self. So as I begin to jump, I wake up. The second night is much like the first except I notice the water is deeper and way more unclear and very muddy. The third is night is like the last two except the water is touching the top bottom of the bridge (way higher than the last two nights) and really muddy. I don't see the crocodile, but I know what is happening and know what the outcome is going to be for the little boy. So I do the same thing as the other two nights and run to the top of the bridge and start to yell and wind up jumping in trying to save him. I always wake up just as I am jumping in. Dream comments: Please help me understand this weird dream. What makes it weird to me is that it is almost the same 3 nights in a row??? Dream title: Teeth missing Dream date: 06-05-04 Dreamer name: TG Dream text: My teeth are missing – it's the front upper four teeth. Dream comments: I keep on having this dream about once a month. What does it mean? Dream title: married to some one Dream date: 7/20/2004 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I had a dream of me getting married but I couldn't see the guy's face.... Dream comments: none Dream title: Lions Dream title: 7-20-2004 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I'm always having dreams that involve lions chasing me or my family. The last one I had kind of bothered me because in the dream I questioned whether everything would have been easier if I had had only one child. In the 2nd to last one I was having sexual relations with someone in a very public place and out of nowhere a lion emerges and starts to chase after me. Dream comments: For the longest time I thought since I am an Aries and many books I have read state that I am attracted to Leo's that maybe this explains why I dream of Lions. Most of my long term relationships have been with a Leo. Dream title: Tornado Dreams Dream date: 26 Jul 2004 Dreamer name: HH Dream text: I dreamt of a sky filled with white doves; the sky was reddish brown and the doves were snow white. They came together in the image of a big white cross and then they made a large tornado. Dream comments: Anybody know what this means? I had this dream in 2001 and I still remember it, I had another dream of tornadoes coming down from the sky last week! Dream title: Murder of husband and his mother. Dream date: July 26, 2004 Dreamer name: HH Dream text: I had a disturbing dream of my husband and his mother, I caught them having sex and I killed them! His grandmother and I buried them underneath the porch! Dream title: Interview with Saddam Hussein Dream date: 26 Jul 2004 Dreamer name: HH Dream text: I had a weird dream that Saddam was in the U.S. and he was wearing a suit. The American Soldiers were shooting at him. I was a reporter and I was being shot at by the Americans because I was near Saddam. I was a little scared at first. I then looked into his eyes and he appeared to have a story behind them so I handed him the microphone and asked him "Is there anything you'd like to tell us Saddam?" Dream comments: That was one of my weird dreams! Dream title: Friday the 13th Dream date: July 26, 2004 Dreamer name: HH Dream text: Jason from the movie is chasing me through my junior high school. We always end up in the bathroom, in the first stall, where he proceeds to drown me in the toilet at knife point. I always wake up at this point! Dream comments: This is a reoccurring dream that I've had since junior high. I had a boyfriend in the 6th grade whose name was Jason. He wasn't my type so I let him down easily. I don't know if it has anything to do with this dream. My husband's middle name is Jason. Dream title: Tupacalypse Now! Dream date: 26 Jul 2004 Dreamer name: HH Dream text: I had a dream Tupac was riding a white horse. I think it says such dreams are the sign of The Apocalypse! Ironic he had an album titled Tupacalypse Now! I always knew he was one of the Gods. In my dream it seemed like I was above him peering down like watching a motion picture from above he watched me as he rode with the herd of wild horses! I was devastated about his death and I prayed for his soul, he said he'd be back reincarnated! I have evidence of this! Dream comments: This dream was in 2001 also! Dream title: My Father Who Is Deceased Dream date: 7/27/04 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I dreamed that we were at my parent's house at a family gathering and my father was there with a clone of himself who was dressed in all white. He was very healthy and happy. Dream comments: I want to understand the meaning of this dream. Dream title: Trip to the Moon Dream date: 7/31/04 Dreamer name: Free Cosmos Dream text: I am walking in a place that is unknown to me. I see my grandfather (who has been dead over 20 years) and I say to him. I am getting ready to take a trip to the moon!! His eyes have a very worried look in them. He then says to me, "Thats what I am worried about". Dream comments: Exactly one month later I had to be rushed to emergency room and had trouble with my heart. I had to take an ultrasound of my heart. The picture in the monitor looked exactly the same as the MOON: Craters and distant looking pictures. I recalled my dream a month earlier - and realized this was the WARNING dream - on death. Could have been my death? I am OK. Dream title: Love and Death Dream date: June July 2004 Dreamer name: rr Dream text: One of my co-workers a guy kissed me and I was shocked. He wanted to kiss me more but I said that I can't, I have a boyfriend already. Dream comments: I just want to know what my dream means and what they represent. Dream title: having children Dream date: 7-29-04 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I dreamed that I had a baby boy and I told my grandma to take care of him because I was going out by myself. Then out of nowhere I come back home and I ask everyone in the house "where is my baby?" Then I look in the bed and I see something moving. I see that my baby has tape in his mouth. My grandma wanted to kill him. Then I start to look for my grandma but can't find her. Dream comments: My cousin had a similar dream that night to. Dream title: None Dream date: about two months ago Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: My father and I are in a room with no windows and it's like a beach. There are some furniture and water in the room; in the water there is a shark. The walls have zigg-zaggy lines on them, kind of like a sunset. We can't get out for the longest time and we climb on a dresser. My dad finally finds his way out of the room and then i wake up Dream comments: I just don't understand this dream at all its so confusing Dream title: none Dream date: two nights ago Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I'm sitting at an island resort and I take a knife and just start to cut myself. It doesn't hurt but I do it. After that, I go into the bathroom and look at my face. I see that my eye is messed up like I have a tumor in the pupil of my eye. It's all brown and its really nasty Dream comments: none Dream title: hallway with flood Dream date: August 2, 2004 Dreamer name: VG Dream text: I am walking home from work. When I walk in the hallway, there is a flood and all the people I've seen who I don't know. And if I look at the end of the hallway it seems very far. Dream comments: I don't have job for almost 7 months already and I always dream of water big waves and sea. What does it mean? It is connected with my problem now that I don't have job? Dream title: Army Training Dream date: 8/1/04 Dreamer name: Sunfish Dream text: I found myself in line for Army training. I was excited about this because I wanted the challenge; however, my fear was that I wasn't going to be good enough. I wasn't the only female in line, but I got the feeling that the Drill Sergeant (who was a man) didn't think I should be there. They were handing out our uniforms and they were green (standard army gear). I had a helmet and I distinctly remember that they gave me a pair of green gloves and that my last name was written on them. I was putting on my new gear and then realized that my whole group had taken off somewhere without me. I tried desperately to find them and catch up with them. I had a great desire to be with the group, but I looked everywhere and could not find them. I walked far away from the camp and went up hills and trails and I was so upset because I couldn't find them. Suddenly, I heard voices in the hills above me, and I saw that they were running and I could hear them laughing as if they were having so much fun. At that moment I was very aware of the fact that I could never have kept up with them because I am old and my body is no longer able to do the athletic things that I have done all my life. I tried to fall in line with them, as if I was with them the whole time, but I knew that I wasn't going to get away with this. I was waiting to get my punishment from the very mean Drill Sergeant, but I woke up and desperately wanted to go back into that dream. Dream comments: I really liked this dream for some reason. Even though I was in a dangerous situation, I wanted to be there and was trying my best to fit in. In reality, I have recently turned 50 and feel sad because I can no longer run with my son or do anything athletic anymore. Dream title: My Nightmare Dream date: April 22, 2004 Dreamer name: ks Dream text: My eye's open and I am standing in the middle of a bedroom, as I look around to the left and right of me there are two windows. Behind me is a bed and in front of me I can see all the way to the living room. I look down and in the doorway (to the bed room I am in) are two pairs of blood-soaked legs that seem to belong to a man and a woman. I am too scared to move to check behind the door to see if they are alive, somehow I know they were dead. I blink and there are two little girls standing in front of me with no expressions on their faces. One girl looked 15 and the other girl looked like she was 6 years old. I realize their parents are dead, lying behind the door. I turn to the left and see a pickup truck driving up to the house really fast, kicking up dirt behind it. Somehow I know this is the killer coming back to kill these two little girls. I panic and turn around grab the blanket and climb under the bed. The 15 year old follows me and lays closest to the wall. I struggle to cover us both up. The killer is in the house now. I look down and the girl's feet are showing. I start to kick my feet to get the blanket over her feet so we cannot be spotted if he looks under the bed. The killer enters the room but he is not alone. I see his feet, a woman's feet and a little boy's feet. He brought his family with him. The killer is screaming and trying to find the girls. I am frozen and still holding my breath. I realize that I have no idea where the other little girl is. I wait until they leave the room and I crawl out from the head of the bed. I run to the window on the right side of the bedroom. I pop out the screen and before I jump out I see the little girl hiding behind the door. I grab her and throw her out the window and then I jump out. I grab her by the back of her dress and throw her in a huge bush. I start to run the opposite direction and hop over a small wire fence into a shallow ditch. I try to cover myself with dirt but fail. Within moments the killer is outside screaming. They get in the truck and drive away. I jump over the fence run back to the house and jump back into the window. I pull the older girl out from under the bed by her feet and push her out the window. I jump out of the window and grab the little girl in the bushes. I have both girls by the hand and we start to run toward the front of the house. A van starts to drive up with a man and woman inside. Somehow I know them and we jump in. The man hands me a gun and tells me to shoot at the killers if they come back. I blink my eyes and the killer is behind us chasing and shooting at us. I fire one shot from my gun and I wake up. Dream comments: I have the most scary and realistic nightmares ever. The one I wrote about is the most recent. I always write them down as soon as I wake from them. Dream title: frustrated Dream date: August 2, 2004 Dreamer name: Cp Dream text: There was a big party going on at a house that I never been in before. There was a big buffet table in the center of this big room. I had a big plate of food & the lady next to me had one too. She took a bite of the food on the plate then she passed out. She was on her back and everyone was surrounding her. I went to go & turn the air conditioner up because it was hot in the house. But I was having a hard time even though I knew how to use it. Usually the temperature in the house is a double digit but now it was different. There was at least 4 or 5 numbers. As I tried to change the temperature the numbers went crazy. I was crying out in frustration because I usually know how to use it. The people who were standing by me looked & laughed at me, which made me even more frustrated. Then I awoke, understanding that I was crying out loud in my sleep. Dream comments: what does this mean? Dream title: dead crows Dream date: 08/02/2004 Dreamer name: kcw Dream text: I was in a field on a sunny day. The grass was browned by the heat of the sun and there were dying crows, piles of them. Some were dead and some where dying. I am an animal lover, so I was on my way into the nearby house to beat up the owner who lived there. Dream comments: I was woken up by my boyfriend. I barely remember my dreams but this is one of two that I do remember within the last 2 months. The first one was when I started dating my boyfriend. It was a beautiful day and I was watching him play basketball. All of a sudden bats came out of nowhere, and started flying above my head. Then they started dropping babies on me which were splattering on my foot and the ground...dying. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with my current boyfriend. It's a new relationship; I just came out of a bad one, and have many walls up. Dream title: Dream date: 3 Aug 2004 Dreamer name: SA Dream text: I dreamt I had met two cross-dressers; one was a painter, one was a writer. We were in a place like an airport cafeteria or other lounge-like place. My mother shows up and I go to introduce them. The dark one, who is the painter, (black hair and cross dresses in a Dorothy a' la wizard of Oz manner) had dressed like a German soldier and was acting mad. The other one was blonde and dressed in yellow dress and was just somewhat shy. Basically we just sat around talking. The scene had changes to an apartment or a house, and the interior was dark and not well lit. Then for some reason, I was driving to a remote area to a fast food chicken joint. It was fall and I was struck by the scenery as being rustic and crisp. But I pulled the car over and shot someone, a small boy I think, because he threw a rock at a bird's nest. I threw the gun over a concrete barrier and left. The area had been staked out by the police but I'd gone through the wood on the other side behind them to try to retrieve the gun. I think ultimately I retrieved it, and hid it in my car and drove away. Then I was awakened a little later. Dream comments: Hey at least I didn't dream of rabbits this time! Dream title: big house in rectangle form with six divisions and pastel colors Dream date: 8/5/04 Dreamer name: joy Dream text: There was a very gig house where my family is. It has a pastel color and divided into six divisions where I am distributing among my family members. Dream comments: what does this dream imply? Dream title: being haunted Dream date: 4 Aug 2004 Dreamer name: SA Dream text: I dreamed last night very vividly that I was in a house that was haunted. The spirit(s) followed me everywhere. Dream comments: Looking at symbolism dictionaries, they say my past is coming back to haunt me, but really, this felt more tangible than that. Can one be haunted in dreams? Dream title: the barn Dream date: 8/3/04 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: My two cousins and I were outside of a barn and we were tied to a post and accused of stealing something (and we didn't do it). Then Mexican people came out shouting in Spanish "THIEF THEIF" and then they lit up a fire in front of us and then they tried to kill us Dream comments: REALLY SCARY!!!!!!!! Dream title: Running from the White Fang Dream date: 8/1/04 Dreamer name: Fluffy Dream text: The first thing I remember is Heero and I are trying to escape Zech's Marquise and go find a new place to hide out. We succeed, and I'm pretty sure we meet up with DM. The next thing I remember is the three of us are running from either my father or Zech's, but I think it's my father. This time around I have a gun on me; at one point I even shoot at Ryo, and for a second I think that I might have been corrupted by the Zero system. We finally manage to get away, and we're taking refuge at my grandmother's new house. My Uncle Steve is helping Grandpa in his garden while Heero and I keep a sharp lookout for Zechs *or* my dad. Dream comments: The character Ryo is Ryo Sanada from the anime series Ronin Warriors. Heero, Duo, and Zechs are characters from the anime series Gundam Wing, and the mention of the Zero system refers to the system in Heero's Gundam Wing Zero. All anime fans probably know what I'm talking about. Dream title: none Dream date: 05 Aug 2004 Dreamer name: lgb Dream text: I have had this reoccurring dream since I was seven and now I am eighteen. It all starts with bad news of my parents having a terrible accident. I have to stay with the neighbors till I am placed in a foster home. The night I received the news was the same night an intruder enters my home. I went to hit him over the head with a baseball bat when he had his back turned. He turned and caught it before it struck him. He grabbed my wrists and threw a black bag over my head and bound my hands and feet. He slung me over his shoulder. I passed out and woke up in a dungeon like from the Dark Ages. There was barbwire entwined in the bars and a guard fast asleep at the door. He didn't look too alive. The door opened and a tall man in a black suit entered. His pale skin accented his red eyes and blue lips. He opened the cage door and sat on the bed next to me. Then he spoke to me," you have a choice: you can either die at my hand or...you can join me and live forever and serve me." He smiled and I just cringed. I spat on him and turned my back to him. "I really don't want to kill you so I will keep you here till you agree. Otherwise you shall join me for dinner every night and sleep in this cage like an animal. Dinner came and I wasn't trusted so I was chained to the high- backed chair. He handed me a glass of wine. I took it, as he smiled at me. I smiled back then threw the wine in his face and slammed the cup on the table. I turned my back to him again. I heard a low roar from behind me. Even though I was scared of him, I didn't turn or open my eyes. I felt heat of an open flame beat on my back and neck. Then silence swept through the room and the cool dead feeling returned to this place. A hand on my shoulder turned me and another under my chin and lifted my eyes to his. I felt his breath on my face and his gaze burned. He spoke again, "You will be mine, now AWAKE!!" Then I wake up. Dream title: Time Dreams Dream date: August 1, 2004 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I dreamed of being at an anniversary party of an elderly, colored couple whom I did not know but felt close too. I was just watching in the dream and was welcomed there. As I was watching I asked the lady what anniversary this was and she responded "It is 119 years we have been married". I looked at her and just then her elderly husband came dancing in and they both smiled at me. I asked their ages and she responded saying "I will be 170 in 3 years" then I told her she did not look a day over 70 which I felt was great in the dream and not offensive at all. Dream comments: This was an amazing dream, I have no clue of it's meaning, Time seems to be the theme of my dreams lately and there was more to this dream but I cannot remember it all ( I loved this dream). Dream title: none Dream date: August 1, 2004 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I was in an underground type railway station and came upon a trash can. I saw a lady's head and body parts in it. She was supposed to be dead but her face looked at me for help. As I turned I saw someone looking at me so I left that place and went into a restroom to hide for a little bit. She followed me in there and she was a whole person again who looked just like my oldest sister. Then my dream switched to another scene where I was going to a dentist. A very handsome very tall 6'7 or more man picked me up and was carrying me. I wrapped around him in fear and felt so safe (clinging like a scared puppy does) soon I was back home and needed to change clothes to go somewhere else he was to take me to. But in my room I looked over and on my bed was my Grandpa who crossed over since 1991. I asked what he was doing there and that he was supposed to be dead. He said he never died - he changed his name to Cliff. He then asked me where my grandma was, so I had to tell him she had passed away too. Then he said he has no reason to be here then because he came back to see her. He also said that she was his life even though he had been away since 1991. Then the tall man was rushing me to get ready to go but I wanted to wait a minute. He grabbed my middle sister's hand who suddenly appeared (she was closest to grandpa) and took her in, saying "LOOK here is a surprise for you". She was not so surprised. Then I was suddenly being carried again by this tall man and I woke up. Dream comments: None Dream title: the water wave Dream date: 08/05/04 Dreamer name: AA Dream text: I was dreaming that I was in the water and big wave was coming at me and I was scared. Dream comments: what was this about? Dream title: fly Dream date: august 8, 2004 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I dreamt I was flying high and then I fell on the floor. Dream comments: what's the meaning of my dream??? Dream title: tight space Dream date: 09 Aug 2004 Dreamer name: DD Dream text: I was on a ship and there were other people on it. I didn't know any of these people at all. I remember there being a Chinese man. There was a guy on the ship who was out to get everyone on the ship. I was trying to hide like everyone else and I found myself hiding in this little locker of all places; then I get out for some reason. Then I see the guy coming and I get back in the locker and it's bigger for some reason. It's really spacious and I got confused. I remember my heart was pounding and I was shaking really bad. I was trying to hold the locker door shut and it was shaking. I remember thinking oh no the guy is going to know I'm in here. Just when I see a shadow over the door I wake up. Dream comments: what does this mean? Dream title: haircut Dream date: 8-5-03 Dreamer name: TR Dream text: I have had a dream when my hair was cut off on numerous occasions. Dream comments: none Dream title: guns Dream date: 9-23-03 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I had a dream that I shot a few people. Dream comments: none Dream title: Wrong Way Bus or Coach on Freeway Dream date: 08/07/2004 Dreamer name: CD Dream text: In my dream it is daytime and I am driving my daughter in the second lane in a freeway. We are just passing a tunnel or long overpass. I then notice a large bus or motor home coach. The coach is black on the top, including its windshield, and the bottom is white. The coach is coming the wrong way in the emergency lane (center lane) in the freeway. I think police is driving behind in the other side of the freeway. A moment passes and the coach disappeared behind us. A moment later we are both stepping on debris, wreckage, wet sand in the freeway pavement. I woke up after that. Dream comments: none Dream title: Pregnant Dream date: 08/13/2004 Dreamer name: TL Dream text: I'm not sure why but this particular dream I felt a lot of tension between me and another person. I do not know who the person was but I know we were fighting or arguing. At the end of the dream he made the comment to me that in 3 months I was going to be pregnant. I said, that's impossible (I'm not seeing anyone). He just kept telling me over and over that in 3 months I would be pregnant. I believe he said that it would be a boy. Dream comments: Can anyone help me on this? I'm scared. I'm 19 yrs old I definitely don't want to be pregnant. Dream title: my dream Dream date: 8/9/04 Dreamer name: AL Dream text: I was at my dad's house where I live, but it didn't look like it. There is a cat and it was like my kitty. I remember her being younger but not as big like as a kitten. She was gray. I remember saying in the dream this used to be my kitty but she isn't the same anymore and that she was bigger. But she kept following me around the house. Every time that I would see her or she found me she would spin me around. I could feel myself being spinned around by my kitty and I could feel moving and spinning. She kept doing it and then I would make this wicked loud like growling noise and chase her around the house. She was wickedly afraid of it every time I would do it. When I went to walk away, I got the feeling that she was even madder and when she found me again she would do it worse. But she was really afraid of the noise I would make and it definitely scared her. It like went back in forth like this. I was hiding in my dad's room with my brother and my dad so my kitty might not spin me around. But she found me and she did it for the last time, but like every time. Dream comments: I kind of knew it was a dream and I would try and stop it. The last time I was tried to wake myself up every time she would do it and I had to literally open my eyes and hold then open. After that I couldn't do back to sleep, and I've been thinking about the dream ever since. Dream title: Dream of someone being pregnant Dream date: August 16th, 2004 Dreamer name: KS Dream text: I dreamed I went to a visit a friend. The day I came, there was a baby shower being held for her. My mother and I left the shower in the middle to go get her a stroller as a gift. We bought the stroller and returned to the party to give it to her; she thanked us for the gift. End of Dream Dream comments: The friend I dream of has had her tubes tied, so she can't have anymore children. Can not for the life of me understand the dream. Dream title: beard Dream date: 8/19/04 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I dreamt that I have a beard. In the beginning of the dream it was all regular and then the beard grew and my mom told me (in the dream) to shave it. Dream comments: I'm a girl so what does it mean? Dream title: Selling shoes Dream date: August 20th, 2004 Dreamer name: GB Dream text: I was visiting a good friend where she worked (a clothing store). I was at the store for a very long time, talking to her and the people she works with, including a very cute guy. Then a couple of girls came in the store and wanted to buy shoes. They looked around and then they thought I was a person who worked there. I played along pretending I did work there. I sold them shoes and had to fill out a form saying I got 10% commission on the sale. Then the cute guy asked me on a date. Dream comments: what does it mean? Dream title: the party Dream date: 8-19-04 Dreamer name: MU Dream text: I was at a party, feeling uncomfortable, but in an annoyed way. My husband is with me and we are just observing people as they walk around outside where the majority of the party is going on. After a while I realize it must be a party that needs a gift or acknowledgment of some kind. I go into a gift shop where other party goers are. I buy a card and only partially sign it. The only letter I wrote was F. Then I got distracted and never finished it. Later I realized it was for my stepson and I gave it to him and his wife. I told my husband I gave it to them without even signing it. I told him now his son would know how it felt to not know where things come from. My husband agreed. Before we left, I sat down at the table with my stepson, who was holding his disabled daughter. I just spoke words, nothing personal or for information, just saying things. He weighed more than he had the last time I saw him. He was responding back as I was speaking to him, with no emotion, but just talking. I was aware of his wife doing things in the background, still no emotions, just business. Dream comments: Usually the wife doesn't take care of making people feel comfortable, so her pouring drinks, that sort of thing, was unusual. The step son and his dad had been in what I thought was a good relationship till recently when he told us it wasn't good and we should not see each other for a while. We still talk to the disabled granddaughter, but it makes it impossible to see her because she is so unable. Dream title: The play Dream date: 8/21/2004 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I was at the reading festival (which is a music festival in four days time) and for some reason I was in a cue to see a play there. I was in a large white and glass building and we were cueing on an escalator. I couldn't see the end of the cue but then suddenly I was ten meters from the entrance. While the cue was snaking around, I was discussing with my friends about the fact that we may not be let in. As soon as the words left my mouth, a female usher came out and told the group of us that we couldn't go in because we couldn't bring children with us, as they would shout and distract the actors. No sooner had I began protesting that we didn't have any children when I felt a tug on my hand. Looking down I saw a little boy. Everyone else in the group also had little children holding their hands too. At this point all of my friends let go of their children and jumped the cue, running in to the park where the play was to be performed. I just stood there, my eyes transfixed on this little boy holding my hand. He didn't look at me though. Suddenly a huge crowd of teenagers rushed out of the field and I felt myself slip to the ground. I was being trampled by thousands of feet. I thought I was going to die, but just then the little boy formed a crab-like shape over me, taking the blows himself. As I tried to get to my feet, the little boy was carried away and I was thrown back down to the ground. After the stampede finished, I ended up with my head inside the gate to the park so I could see the play. There were not very many people in the audience and they were all sitting around in little groups. There were two actors on stage: an old man with a beard in a yellow cotton suit and a 10-15 year old girl with a flowing pink dress on. It sounded like the man was talking but he wasn't moving his lips, so I guessed it was a voice over. I couldn't hear what he was saying. Half way through this speech, the little girl ran away, laughing. The old man chased after her off the stage. I looked up, (bloody and beaten) at the usher and she just smiled and nodded at me. Then I woke up. 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