E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Subscribe: electric-dreams-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: electric-dreams-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Subscribe Online: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electric-dreams o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Volume #12 Issue #9 September 2005 ISSN# 1089 4284 o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Download a cover for this issue: http://tinyurl.com/ce2eg o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o C O N T E N T S ++ Editor's Notes – Richard Wilkerson ++ Global Dreaming News Harry Bosma ++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange Editor, Lucy Gillis LDE Quarterly Lucid Dreaming Challenge Ed Kellogg, Ph.D ++ Article: Dreamwork, DreamPsi and Ethics: An Invitation to the Psiberconference Linda Lane Magallón ++ Column: The View From the Bridge August 2005 Emus, Hiroshima, and Dreams Come True Jean Campbell ++ Dream: “Turning into Stone” Stan Kulikowski II ++ DREAM SECTION: Dreams from August, 2005 Host Kat Peters-Midland XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX D E A D L I N E : September 21st deadline for October 2005 submissions XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Post Dreams and Comments on Dreams to: http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple Send news, events, workshops, conferences& reviews to Harry Bosma Send Articles, news and other items to: Richard Wilkerson: o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Editor's Notes o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Welcome to the September 2005 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams and dreamwork online. If you are new to dreams and dreamwork, there are a few e-lists where Electric Dreams people seems to congregate that might interest you. One is dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com Subscribe by going here and registering http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dreamchatters/ .. and another is the IASD bulletin board hosted by Ed Kellogg, Ph.D. Please, no dreams interpreted here, just discussion of dreaming and dreamwork topics. http://www.asdreams.org/subidxdiscussionsbboard.htm The 2005 PsiberDreaming Conference will begin a just a couple of weeks. The whole conference is online, so all you need to participate is a web browser. What is really nice is that unlike typical conferences where you are lucky to get one question in after the presentation, these presenters (tops in their fields) will stick around for two weeks and discuss their papers with you. Great prices for this conference. More information at http://www.asdreams.org/psi2005 Our prayers and support go out to the people suffering from Katrina’s effects. The new nightmare hotline, for those who can even find a phone, is posted below. Next month Electric Dreams will have a nightmare focus, and if you have articles that related to trauma and dreams, particularly from natural disasters, please consider contributing those or links to those articles. Nightmare Hotline: 1-866-DRMS911 This month in Electric Dreams: Lucid Dream Exchange editor Lucy Gillis offer ED readers an excerpt from her Lucid Dream Exchange, this month an article from the Host of the upcoming PsiberDreaming Conference, Ed Kellogg. In this article, you can learn techniques that will help you in both dreaming and waking through methods of focus and incantation. These methods are particularly useful if you can use them in a lucid dream. Read and study the ” LDE Quarterly Lucid Dreaming Challenge.” Linda Lane Magallón is the author of Mutual Dreaming and has been a pioneer in the Field of Dreams for decades. Later this month she will be presenting at the online PsiberDreaming Conference and would like the lay some ground work for that discussion here in “Dreamwork, DreamPsi and Ethics.” Here you will enter the world of mutual dreaming, and begin to develop a sense that our dreams are not as isolated as we typically imagine them to be. Emus, Hiroshima, and Dreams Come True. What else but the World Dreams Peace Bridge? Jean Campbell updates us their latest projects of peace and connection to people around the world, and messages from the World Soul. Find out what is happening and how you can join the Bridge in The View. Stan Kulikowski II dream selection this month from his dreaming mind and pen is called “Turning into Stone.” I’m sure you will find his dream renditions inspiring. Thanks to Janet Garrett , ED articles from past issues are online in an easy-to-access format. These articles contain a wide range of information for dreamers and dreamworkers. You can see her work progress and view hundreds of article on dreams at: http://www.improverse.com/ed-articles/index.htm Harry Bosma searches around the world for news on dreams and dreaming, which you can read about in the Global Dreaming News. If you have any dream news, conferences, books, workshops, and especially any online meetings or events, be sure to send that information to Harry by the 15th of each month at ed-news@alquinte.com Teeth falling out, being killed in a car crash, being unable to call out on a phone, being chased by someone, and being dead in the dream…another colorful dream section of Electric Dreams! From Kat Peters-Midland. Be sure to read all of these dreams and more. If you want to send in dreams, please enter them at http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple or join the dream flow at dreamflow@yahoogroups.com (dreamflow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com) Cover this month by RCW “Reflecting on the Flood” http://tinyurl.com/ce2eg -------------------- For those of you who are new to dreamwork, be sure to stop by one of the many resources: http://dreamgate.com/electric-dreams http://dreamgate.com/dream/library http://dreamunit.net/news-en/ http://www.dreamtree.com Electric Dreams in PDF: (thanks to Nick Cumbo) http://electric.dreamofpeace.net/ -------------------- From Planet Dream, -Richard Wilkerson o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Global Dreaming News September 2005 o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o If you have news you'd like to share, simply email Harry Bosma at his special ed-news@alquinte.com address. Online: - Announcing Dreambay.org - Lucidity Letters now online - IASD Psiber Dreaming Conference - All About Your Dreams by Gayle Delaney Physical world: - Dream Institute of Northern California Books, movies, research: - Children's Dreams Seminar to be Published - Angel dreams wanted by Bob Van de Castle Recurring events: - Ritual DaFuMu for Peace Last minute additions: - Ullman Presentation in Manhattan * * * ONLINE * * * --- - Announcing Dreambay.org --- The IASD online auction has its own new website - Dreambay.org! It has a new look, new items to bid on, and opportunities to donate your books, services etc to support the IASD! Don't miss the debut of Dreambay on September 1st ! Of course don't forget to bid on items What we will have up for bid so far are a beautiful mosaic mirror, Dream Interview with Gayle DeLaney, Dreamwork session with Ron Masa, a total of $800 discount, a signed copy of The Ennegram Field Guide by Carolyn Bartlett, An Introduction to Psychology of Dreaming by Kelly Bulkeley, a Circle Round book and CD set, Women's Bodies Women's Dreams by Patricia Garfield, Dreams: Unlock the Secrets of Your Subconscious by Frank Garfield and Rhondda Stewart-Garfield, 2 Eye of God key chains, a Tommy Hilfiger set (body wash, body lotion, and deodorant stick), and so much more! http://Dreambay.org If you have any questions or would like to donate an item to the auction, you may contact Kat Peters-Midland at IASDauction@comcast.net . --- - Lucidity Letters now online --- For ten years, 1981 to 1991, the Lucidity Letter published articles and information about lucid dreaming. This wonderful collection is now online and free to the public. http://www.spiritwatch.ca This project is from Jayne Gackenbach, Ph.D. Department of Psychology and Sociology Grant MacEwan College --- - IASD Psiber Dreaming Conference --- September 18 - October 2, 2005 Join some of the world's foremost experts on the subject of Psi-dreaming for two weeks of cutting-edge papers, discussions, workshops, and chats. If you've ever had a precognitive dream, a lucid dream, or simply an 'unusual dream' that never quite made sense, this seems the place for you. For two weeks participants worldwide will enjoy online experiments, psiber games with prizes, chats, and discussions on paranormal dreaming in the shared meeting space of virtual reality. Previous conferences received rave reviews: "Bravo!", "Incredible!", "a wonderful experience," "amazing!", "topnotch", "I am really thrilled," "great conference," "please, please do this frequently," "I don't know how many accolades I can give you, too many to count, I believe. The conference was simply great!! Good presenters, topics, participants, and great energy." If you missed the first three, make sure you attend the fourth! This Year's Presentations: "Video Game Play, Dreams and Consciousness Development." / Gackenbach "The Art of Dream Healing" / D'Urso "Dreams Near Death." / Siegel "Dream Precognition: Possible Ways to Improve and Control It." / Robinson "Calling the Animal Guides: Crossing the Boundaries." / Broughton "Parallel Universes /Probable Selves." / Gillis "Primitive Rock Art and the Formative Dynamics of Psi Dreaming." / Graff "Redreaming our Global Self: An Identity Upgrade to "I" version 2.0" / Webb "Oneiric Cartography: Mapping the Dream-body" / Jenkins "Does Scientific Honesty Still Require Skepticism About Psi?" / Sturzenacker "Lucid Dream your way to Creativity." / Johnson "Dreams, Whitehead and Psi: Using Microcosmic Event Awareness." / Wilkerson "Psi Dreams-The Agony and the Ecstasy." / Potts "Interactive Dreaming and Ethics." / Magallón "Mercury Retrograde and its Effects on Dreaming." / Hoffman "Using Lucid Dreams to Seek Future Information." / Waggoner "Dream Language - Path to Personal Transformation." / Hoss "Enter the Matrix: Exploring the Source Code of Dreams." / Kellogg Contests: Mutual Dreaming Contest (Facilitator Ed Kellogg) Precognitive Dreaming Contest (Facilitators Cynnie Pearson & Beverly D'Urso) Dream Telepathy Contest (Facilitator Rita Dwyer) http://asdreams.org/psi2005/ --- - All About Your Dreams by Gayle Delaney --- an online course in Dream Interviewing Techniques September 6th for four weeks. In this course, Gayle Delaney, Ph.D., a pioneer in the field of modern dream interpretation and author of seven books on the subject, shows you how to ask the right questions about your dreams rather than relying on the standard "one-size-fits-all" dream dictionary. You will liberate yourself from psychological dogmas, and learn to look before you leap to an interpretation. When you know how to look and listen carefully, your dreams will become clear statements of your deepest insights. Gayle Delaney, PhD http://barnesandnobleuniveristy.com http://www.gdelaney.com * * * PHYSICAL WORLD * * * --- - Dream Institute of Northern California --- The Dream Institute of Northern California offers the following activities: Open House & Art Exibit Friday, September 30, 4-8 pm Pre-Death Dreams & Visions Saturday September 17, 1-4 pm $35, 3 CEU (BBS only) Patricia Bulkeley, Ph.D. and Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D. Fields, Forms and Fate Jung, Dream and the Environment Thursday September 22, 6-8 pm, $25, 2 CEU Michael, Conforti. PhD Culture Dreaming Monthly Event, September 10, Oct 1, Nov 5, Dec 3 Saturday Afternoons, 3-5 pm, $20 Meredith Sabini and Richard Russo, MA The Dream Institute of Northern California 1672 University Ave Berkeley, CA 94703 * * * BOOKS, MOVIES, RESEARCH * * * --- - Children's Dreams Seminar to be Published --- The Philemon Foundation will be publishing thousands of previously unreleased documents from Swiss Psychotherapist, Carl G. Jung. Dreamworkers know Jung's work quite well as Jung produced so many technques and procedures, as well as providing underlying theory in dreamwork. Now the Philemon Foundation will be releasing the Children's Dream Seminars, and may other documents. For more information please visit http://www.philomonfoundation.org --- - Angel dreams wanted by Bob Van de Castle --- Bob Van de Castle is seeking accounts of dreams in which angelic figures or beings of light appear for a book he is planning to publish . Background information about the dreamer and any circumstances associated with the dream would be most appreciated, as well as an indication that permission is granted to use the dream. * * * RECURRING EVENTS * * * --- - Ritual DaFuMu for Peace --- The World Dreams Peace Bridge, on the 15th of each month, is holding a monthly DaFuMu (a collective dream of good fortune: http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/dafumu.htm) to support peace. In joining a DaFuMu each month we will be seeking the mandala of peace within the universal mind: learning what it is to be peaceful at a personal level, how to act in a peaceful manner within the world, and accessing and supporting the general mandala of peace available to all people. So, please join in on the 15th of each month. Before sleeping set your intention to dream towards the mandala of peace. If you feel that your dream has touched upon a symbol that can be used within the mandala of peace we are creating, or on a particular relation of peace, please let us know. Just send your comment, picture or dream to http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/dafumumonthly.htm. To join the World Dreams Peace Bridge discussion group, just send an e-mail to worlddreams-subscribe@yahoogroups.com . ******** Late News ******** Dreaming as a Natural Healing System with Montague Ullman, MD Thursday, November 10, 2005? 40 East 35th Street (between Madison and Park avenues), Manhattan, NY, USA Details and flyer at http://asdreams.org/2005ullman/ o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange By Lucy Gillis o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o LDE Quarterly Lucid Dreaming Challenge December, 2004 by Ed Kellogg ((c) 2004 E. W. Kellogg III, Ph.D.) (This feature provides an unusual lucid dreaming task for LDE readers with each new issue. Participants agree to accept personal responsibility and all risks should they choose to undertake these tasks, which may possibly bring about mental, emotional, and even physical changes. We invite those of you who attempt these tasks to send your dream reports to LDE.) THE LUCID DREAM INFORMATION TECHNIQUE In a lucid dream in May of 1985 I finalized a Lucid Dream Information Technique (LDIT) that has worked quite well for me, as well as for others, in obtaining clear and easily understandable information on a variety of topics (Kellogg III, E. W. (1986). "A lucid dream incubation technique", Dream Network Bulletin, 5(4), 16). "In a lucid dream I demonstrate an incubation technique using a silver bowl to a group of other [dreamers]. Basically the technique consisted of the following - First the lucid dreamer decides on a question, in which he or she asks for the information most needed at that time. After deciding on a specific question, the dreamer inverts the silver bowl and consciously focuses on the question. After waiting a few seconds for the answer to materialize, the dreamer then turns over the bowl to find a materialized note with the answer written on it. I took a number of my fellow [dreamers] through this incubation technique, and each received a clear and discrete answer. For myself I asked for a message from an official in a government agency about the possibilities of future research grants, and received the answer "Good bye!" , which I clearly understood meant that I would receive no further funding from this agency (note: which incidentally, proved quite true). " Since that time I've experimented with variations of the LDIT, which one can break down into four steps: 1. Finding a medium for the materialization of the answer (such as a closed drawer, or blank piece of paper); 2. Asking the question, waiting a few seconds (important!); 3. Opening the drawer (or turning over the paper, etc.) and seeing what has materialized, and finally; 4. Memorizing what you see, waking yourself up from LDR (Lucid Dream Reality) and then accurately and completely recording the information in WPR (Waking Physical Reality). If I open a drawer, sometimes I find a written note or drawing, at other times an object or objects symbolizing the answer appears. And as for reading, I need to read it clearly the first time through, as rereading messages usually doesn't work very well for me. Some materializing mediums work far better than others, and the best give discrete, specific, answers, easily remembered in the transition from LDR to WPR. One can for example, ask the question and then turn over a piece of dream paper, open a dream book, turn on a dream television, or even type the question into a dream computer and press Enter to display the answer. Finding a suitable medium may require some ingenuity on your part - not every dreamscape has empty drawers, blank pieces of paper, or silver bowls lying about! In order to use the LDIT I need to maintain a clear headed lucidity throughout the incubation process, and then consciously retain and clearly recall the answer on returning to WPR. As an oracle of information I've found the LDIT very useful, and the information received usually of a very high quality. This does not mean that I always get usable answers to the questions I ask! In one case, where I had requested investment information, I received my answer on a clay tablet in what looked like cuneiform! I've used the LDIT as a kind of dreamtime search engine to successfully access information of all kinds, from remote viewing targets to investment advice. However, to begin I suggest that you first use the LDIT to obtain information on improving health and healing, either for yourself, of for someone you care about. Lucid Dreaming Task Using the LDIT to Obtain Healing Information Before performing this task: incubate dreams for guidance on how to accomplish this week's task - what to ask about, which medium to use, etc. Record your experiences and / or the answers that you get in your dream journal in as much detail as possible - use illustrations to depict your experiences if appropriate. Use this information to better focus on the task for this week. Use different magical spells to incubate both lucid dreams, and dreams on specific topics that interest you. Keep a record of how well different procedures work. When you next gain lucidity in a lucid dream (where you know that you dream while you dream) use the LDIT (Lucid Dream Information Technique) to generate an answer to one (or all) of the following questions: 1. Why do I have ____? 2. What can I do to cure _____? or, 2. What can I do (or take, or eat) to optimize my health? Alternatively, you can use the LDIT to ask for healing information for a friend who needs help, and who has given you permission to do so. Record your experiences and / or the answers that you get using the LDIT in your dream journal in as much detail as possible - use graphical illustrations to depict your answer if appropriate. Also, look for health and healing information in all of your dreams. Often, after rehearsing the LDIT as you go to sleep, the answers will show up in your dreams whether you become lucid in them or not. ******************************** The Lucid Dream Exchange is a quarterly newsletter featuring lucid dreams and lucid dream related articles and interviews. To subscribe to The Lucid Dream Exchange send a blank email to: TheLucidDreamExchange-subscribe@yahoogroups.com You can also check us out at www.dreaminglucid.com ******************************** The Lucid Dream Exchange is a quarterly newsletter featuring lucid dreams and lucid dream related articles and interviews. To subscribe to The Lucid Dream Exchange send a blank email to: TheLucidDreamExchange-subscribe@yahoogroups.com You can also check us out at www.dreaminglucid.com o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Dreamwork, DreamPsi and Ethics: An Invitation to the Psiberconference © 2005 Linda Lane Magallón o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Prior to the Freudian revolution, no culture discounted dreampsi. At the very least, dream prophesy and precognition (foretelling the future) were known and acknowledged. Additionally, there's evidence as far back in history as the Babylonian period that clairvoyance (seeing at a distance), telepathy (perceiving other people) and mutual dreaming (having the same dream as another person), if not common, were widely recognized. So what happened? Scientific materialism developed such a distrust in unseen experiences that some people questioned whether dreams even existed. Fortunately, the scientific approach is eventually self-correcting, especially with the advent of new technology. Besides demonstrating the reality of dreams, the scientific method provided a test of dream telepathy (at Maimonides in the 1960's), with related forays into waking psi like remote viewing and Ganzfeld exploration. Reacting to a flood of criticism by skeptics, Ganzfeld became one of the most rigidly controlled experiments in the laboratory. The evidence for verifiable psi is quite in accordance with scientific standards. But that seems to have made little impact on dreamwork. There is currently no dreamwork method that routinely asks, "Is this a psi experience?" or seeks a psi explanation. The evidence for psi must shout to be heard over the murmur of non-psi dream interpretation, which favors the idea that the world of dream has only one inhabitant -- the dreamer. Any notion of communal dreaming gets quashed as a result. Sigmund Freud actually mentioned telepathy in his writings, but it made no lasting impact because a telepathic explanation is not a component of his "free association" technique. Instead, the dream was presumed to refer backwards, but not retrocognitively to previous psi events. Rather, the stimulus was supposed to be known events of childhood that had been repressed; their memory being subsequently triggered by current events. Or the stimulus was assumed to be known events of recent occurrence that had not yet been fully processed. Because his theory limits dream influence to whatever the dreamer was previously aware, it never occurs to users of Freud's technique that a dream might refer to something that has never been known, like psi or subconscious perception. Or never put into words, like subliminal or subverbal sensing. Dreamers are right to question the practice of assigning free association (which depends on known words) to each and every dream. Dreampsi involves the verifiable *perception* of what's "out there." This is 180 degrees from the practice of *projection* which is built into Freudian psychoanalysis. It's assumed that the dreamer is going to *project* his own ideas, hopes, fears and expectations on to the analyst, who welcomes it as part of the therapeutic process. It's only when the dreamer accurately *perceives* something about the psychoanalyst that the analyst gets nervous. Sometimes I think the confidentiality requirement is more to protect the analyst than it is to protect the dreamer. I also wonder how much dream interpretation is the analyst's presumptions *projected* onto the dreamer. Quite a lot, I suspect. Projection is such a pervasive practice that when dream interpretation moves from the individual couch to the group therapy circle, it comes along for the ride. In one popular method, there are cursory attempts to solicit information from and about the dreamer, but the method doesn't really reach its stride until the projection begins. Then the reigns are cut loose and every other person in the group is permitted, nay, encouraged, to gallop through the wide field of dream meanings, while the primary dreamer gets left in the dust. The result is that the poor dreamer is pelted with possibilities, none of which is designed to hone in on what the original dream actually said to the dreamer. Supposedly, from this erratic display of hoof sans harness, some pebble of truth will fly up and hit the dreamer, who will feel a resonance. But what if *none* of the explanations really fit? Is the dreamer protected from being bamboozled into claiming a resonance that he doesn't really feel, just to satisfy the group's need for speed? Carl Jung actually had psi experiences from childhood, but instead of defining them as psi, he developed an interesting cover story call "synchronicity." This concept deliberately turns our attention away from cause and effect and substitutes happenstance in its place. I have never understood why Jung felt he had to resort to this alternate explanation for every profound life event. Some, perhaps, but not every single one. Maybe Jung felt his own life was so out of control, that he wanted to avoid the seemingly impossible idea that he could control it? At any rate, a worst-case use of synchronicity is designed to excuse the dreamer from all blame or credit for dream events. If dreams just "happen," if writing them down freezes them into a fixed modality, then we don't have to take any responsibility for change. We just react to our fate accompli. We don't track down the possibility that *we* may have influenced the construction of our dreams. Therefore, it's just archetypal that I'm having shadowy dream figures threaten me. It has nothing to do with the fact that I obsess over my health rather than get off my duff and make a medical appointment. Oh, no. It's just synchronicity that I'm having precognitive dreams about airline crashes. It has nothing to do with the fact that I spend every night scanning the evening news for catastrophes. Does it? Fritz Perls produced a popular dreamwork presumption that arises from Gestalt psychology. Dreams are part of me; dream characters are part of me. Actually, I like this approach, but as one step in the process of maturation, not as the end of growth. It encourages us to take responsibility for our own "stuff," rather than ascribing it to the gods, the demons, the community, the archetypes, fixed fate or our unreachable past. It helps us define our projections and take back what we projected onto other people during psychoanalysis. There's a built-in problem, though. Ego-centrism. If everything is part of me, I'm not likely to pay attention to the fact that the other guy exists. I'll never see him, not within dreams, not without. The world, waking and dreaming, becomes all about me, me, me. Pushed to its extreme, this attitude converts to: I can do anything I want in the dream because it's all my dream. I can interpret this dream however I want, because it's all mine. To blazes with everyone else. If the dream is totally my world, then elements like manners, morals and respect for dream characters are mute. Ethical questions, about impact on humans in the waking state, don't even enter the equation. While this attitude may be fine for a hermit (although I doubt it), it breeds havoc with interactive dreaming and dream sharing. It becomes a real problem when telepathy and mutual dreaming are natural dreamtime events. It brews trouble, if not for you, then for the others in your community who have to put up with you. These are only some of the current dreamwork practices (and underlying theories) that impact our attitudes and ideas about dreampsi. There are plenty more. In the upcoming IASD Psiberconference, I will tackle the difficult job of discussing dream ethics, in relation to interactive dreaming. It's a challenging task because we bring to the discussion popular beliefs about dreams that we've never questioned. It's time we do so. I invite you to join the discussion. You can surf to the Psiberconference of the International Association for the Study of Dreams at www.asdreams.org/psi2005/index.htm ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html (Dream Flights) http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html (Dream Flights) o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o THE VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE August 2005 Emus, Hiroshima, and Dreams Come True Jean Campbell o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Emus The month of August has been filled to the brim with excitement. On the very first day of August, Olivia, who lives in England, dreamed of emus. This dream set the pace for the month. "I stood there in the 'desert'", Olivia said of her dream, "when I suddenly saw a few emus, and then more and more, and then I couldn't understand why I hadn't seen them immediately, for they stood everywhere - all, but one or two, standing, sleeping. (But not in head in sand, like ostriches, instead sleeping, or even hibernating, in that position). "Does anybody have any insight into what emu might stand for? Any habits of the birds? Any news snippets? (Apparently California has some emu farms?)" Ilkin immediately replied from Turkey, "I don't know if this can help you but we call emus as 'camel bird' in Turkish and I think it is same or similar around middle-east. You are also mentioning being at a desert in your dream. Both camels and camel birds (emus) are strong animals against hunger and thirst. They can smell sandstorms etc before they come, can use the fat and water they store under bad conditions etc. Camel birds' eggs used to hang to protect from spiders etc in houses and other places. There are hundreds years old camel bird eggs hanging in beautiful handmade carvings in Haia Sophia and many churches, mosques and antique palaces against poisonous spiders etc." And from Australia, Kathy, who named the emu as the law bringer, the enforcer of the Australian Aboriginal tribes, said to Olivia a day later: "Your Emu Dreaming has captured my dreaming mind!!! I hardly ever have dreams of aboriginal people BUT after your dream I have had two! "For the RV (Remote Viewing) experiment - I dreamed in part of people looking for a lawyer (taking the sense of "law man" rather literally, I think - but the one chosen was a young WOMAN); and I also had Sam W. an Aboriginal poet in the dream as a possible contender! and I was on a community which was not really an Aboriginal community although I thought of it as that; and there were aboriginal elders coming in procession to choose the lawyer, having first cast their lot (small round bags containing stones/marbles). "You would think that would have been enough - but NO. "Today I had a short sleep in the afternoon - and more aboriginal dreaming! I dreamed that the Chief had died - and all the tribe had gathered - I was amazed that the entire tribe had gathered (and I knew they'd also be gathering at Cherberg - an Aboriginal settlement). Some supper had been made by my friend R. She had fed all of us with very little (I felt sorry that all the tribal people did not share in this). I noticed that although I'd arrived last, there was still a piece of bread and a piece of bacon (something I don't eat!!) left - the food was perfectly the right amount. "AND I don't think Aboriginal dreaming is about individual dreams but about the essence of things (and that is how the thing lives and is connected to all else) - and hence also connected to how the tribe sees itself (their sense of identity) and of the tribe's possibilities - just my understanding after reading very little. I think the Aboriginal language of dreamtime and dreamings is not easily translated into our individual way of viewing things." Kathy also suggested that, as the emu dream seemed to reflect an earlier dream Olivia had mentioned in the context of talking about Australian dream Shaman, Robert Moss, that Olivia might see what Moss had to say about emus too. Within two days, Olivia wrote: "I had a brief, but very prompt, reply from Robert Moss in my inbox this morning. Just a couple of his comments: "Perhaps the Emu People are dreaming YOU. ... ...the ancient ones of different traditions come looking for us, through dreaming..." Then Olivia had another dream, "Oh, wow!!" she said. "I had a dream last night, a rather abstract one, where I received instruction about water holes in the desert, and how keeping the water together, in holes, rather than it permeating the soil, prevented it from evaporising. "The dream also had the image of a young girl, a child, of East Asian origin, but no other people. I wondered if that part related to my trying to dream with Kotaro, while he visited Hiroshima." Hiroshima Day August 6 On Hiroshima Day, Peace Bridge events took place in two major ways. In Melbourne, Australia members of the Peace Bridge Victoria, Nick and Janette, conducted a Peace Train Workshop as part of the Hiroshima Day events; and a display of children's Peace Train art, collected from Peace Bridge members around the world, was on display in the Town Hall. In Japan, Kotaro traveled from Tokyo to Hiroshima. What began as a personal journey soon turned into an important process for the entire Bridge, as members from around the world sent small items to Kotaro like incense to burn and a folded paper crane. On the train to Hiroshima, Kotaro said, he read Ilkin's beautiful poem "To All the Children of My Dreams." This poem can be found on the World Dreams web site at http://worlddreamspeacebridge.org/aiddreams.htm >From Germany, Ralf sent a Haiku, from which Kotaro created a surprise. Here is Ralf's poem: War--so easy to set the trees on fire Peace--so long to grow the seeds Now let's plant the forests for our children! Kotaro spoke of the custom at Hiroshima of putting out memorial messages. He wrote, "Thank you Ralf, I will send your message (only message and your name, no address) to one of my friend who live in Hiroshima. He will write down this message on a small wood block. I think I can send what it look like soon." August 15 DaFuMu Dream of Water In the meantime, another world crisis caught the attention of Peace Bridge members, that of children dying in Niger from drought and famine. Niger, the second poorest country in the world, relying mostly on agriculture, has been hard-hit in the past year with both drought and a plague of locusts. On August 10 Kathy revealed a plan for assistance to the people in Niger which we found so compelling that we gave it its own page on the World Dreams web site: http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/niger.htm Beyond this, several of our friends in Baghdad were sick with dysentery from drinking polluted water, something that has plagued thousands in Iraq, where the infrastructure has been destroyed by war. Olivia suggested that we should do a group focus on water, and that we could use the subject of water for the August DaFuMu Dreaming for World Peace coming up on the fifteenth of the month. "Every time we take a drink or use the loo..." she suggested, we could imagine all of the people of the world having safe, clean, drinkable water. And further, we could think of water filling the Reservoir at the Peace Bridge. The dreams began immediately, amid a conversation of the synergistic power of group dreaming. In a response to one water dream from Ralf, May replied, "I have been reading Sarah Allen's book, *The Way of Water.* She quoted this paragraph from the book: "Water, with its multiplicity of forms and extraordinary capacity for generating imagery, provided the primary model foe conceptualizing general cosmic principles. Both water and plants provide metaphoric roots or early Chinese ideas about time. (Earlier, quoting Confucius' contemporary Heraclites saying that you cannot step into the same river twice.) Water, in the form of the stream with a natural spring as its source, provides a model for ideas of both transience and continuity. Plants, with their annual patterns of change. .. in their reproductive continuum, for the concept of lineage..." Apparently the emus were dreaming through all of us. When Kotaro returned from Hiroshima, he had this tale to tell: "Today, as I am get tired I cannot write long mail. On my cell phone. It worked very hard in Hiroshima too. Today, at noon, I was walking around near by Hiroshima Station. And nature called me. When I was washing my hands, my cell phone seemed to decide to take a cool bath and jumped from my chest pocket into the stream of water. Woops! Too late. My cell phone is resting now to dry itself up. I don't know if it works." And Dreams Come True Close on the heels on the Hiroshima Day events, another drama began to unfold on the Peace Bridge, and across the world. "Greetings from a mom on the front lines of peace in Crawford at the Crawford Peace House with Cindy (Sheehan) and her strong stand for peace," wrote Valley on August 13 from near President George W. Bush's ranch in Texas. Valley, one of three founders of the Crawford Peace House, was in the thick of things. "My daughter has been here with me" she said, "and she is in love with Cindy, she is a hero to her. It is so wonderful for her to be involved with all of these strong women activists out here. I met the two women who started code pink today Medea and Jody. Ray McGovern is here for the rally Saturday.... We can all be inspired to take a strong stand against this war and keep pressuring our congressional representatives to be held accountable for bringing us into this war. We are also organizing an action in Dallas for the Sept. 24 action. This feels like the tide is changing and people are beginning to talk about the issues related to this war again." At the same time, Ali, living in the midst of the chaos around the completion of the Iraqi constitution wrote: Dear friends.. I would like to convey the pain and agony of my people here in Iraq,and in particular Baghdad. Death Toll is going up and daily bombings are getting more brutal and savage. No description can draw the bloody scene.....3 successive bombings( today morning ) in the same location, and the wounded people who survive the bombings had another one at the entrance of the nearby hospital. More than 50 were killed and about 80 wounded... These bloody events are to be recorded and the I find no words to describe the pain and sadness every one here feel!!!! Peace Bridge members began a nightly dreaming, praying and lighting candles for the people of Iraq. Jeremy, returning to all this activity after an international peace conference in Poland, wrote from his home in South Korea: "I am thinking of joining the Southern Peace Train (to Washington D.C. for the September 24 protest) - so many lies behind the war and nobody accountable - The DU poisoning is what scares me the most, and what I would speak out about. Even people at the above conference hadn't heard about it before - even the Attorney General of Delaware - a receptive woman whom I discussed it with." For Jeremy, the original dreamer of the Peace Train dream which started the Peace Bridge on it's course of creating Peace Train art around the world, riding the Peace Train from New Orleans to Washington will be, quite literally, a dream come true. Read Jeremy's original Peace Train dream at: http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/peacetrain.htm Another Peace Bridge dream which could be seen as precognitive was mentioned by Valley in another update from Crawford: "Thanks for the support and offers of support for the Crawford Peace House. The donations are coming in and people are coming in droves and many of the finest volunteers I have ever seen. These people are committed and they are working very very hard to keep this action coordinated in Crawford. "We have 50 bags of ice delivered each day, we provide meals 3 times a day for 500 people, we have two camps and one peace house, and around 10 shuttles running between the camps to transport people around. Five core groups are helping to organize with Cindy Sheehan, Gold Star Families, Military Families Speak Out, Veterans for Peace, Iraq Veterans against the War, along with Code Pink and Crawford Peace House. "It is strange to see all the satellite tv trucks parked along the side of the road next to a cow pasture. The neighbors are getting tired of all the people driving around the road and the events we are having nightly in the main tent where we feed every one and have interfaith services and speakers and performers. It is about 2 miles from the Bush Ranch and right next to the Secret Service Check Point. "Crawford is a place of miracles and the people and resources that are needed show up. We have had people from as far away as Alaska come down. It is a kind of spiritual pilgrimage for many people. We have a labyrinth in the peace garden that people take the time to walk and contemplate peace. "We don't want to take away any of the resources from the good work that is going on here at the bridge. Just keep us in your dreams! "This is another instance of a dream realized, when we first thought about Crawford as a peace house I had a dream of a long white banner that was from far away and it lead to Crawford that said Peace is the Way. Now so many people are making their way to Crawford to speak out against the war and work for peace. My son and I made a banner together from that dream that has been to many rallies since this war began. I will bring it to DC!" In the midst of all this activity, a controversy broke out on the Bridge, when one member referred to the U.S. President as "Shrub." Was it respectful to air this kind of slur, some asked? Weren't we just showing our own aggression? It appeared that war might break out on the Peace Bridge, until discussion began to open a new space for everyone involved. On August 27, May wrote: Dear Jeremy, Olivia, Valley, Victoria, Ron, Louise, myself, and everybody: When I read the posts from some of you this morning, I felt "What a group!" I was impressed and inspired by all that you have said. The question came up to me after the reading: Is there legitmate place for hatred, anger, disgust, condescension, dispise, distrust...? What and where is the "best in us" and how do we balance -- is that it? -- and make room for all these human qualities. What is the alchemical process do we need. Then I recalled last night's dreams and they are: BEARING THE BEST I am in a procession with a small group of people, probably all women, walking down hill on a street. I happen to be the first (no leadership implied). It's all very grey, the pavement and the sky. We each hold a box as if in a ceremony, respectfully. In the box (size of a shoe box but shallower) there are maybe six objects (artifacts?) -- in it, carefully partitioned to keep them in place. They are precious objects for some reason. We are careful that they stay in place and are safe. I look at mine and others also notice, that I have the "best" of whatever it is. I feel good, realizing that I am fortunate to have the best. I wonder for a moment of perhaps the reason of why or how come I happened or worked for what turned out to be the best. There is a mild realization that I worked for this end result. EOD THE BEST AGAIN There is a second dream just before I woke up but I could only remember a little part of it. I am also walking in front of a small group of people and also about I have the best of whatever it is, maybe clothing, the long, classical Chinese garment I have on. Again, I am surprised by it. EOD ********************************** Somehow, I connect these dreams with what has been taking place here on the Bridge. In both dreams, I was surprised when I found out that I had the best. In relation to the recent Bridge posts I felt I am in touch of the best of this group, therefore, it all became part of my Self. I incorporated all the qualities in you. It is also true, that, in recent months, I've had several dreams that I could only understand as some good things in me are beginning to consolidate, to surface, to be realized. So, these two little ones are also part of that process. As you all know, I hope, by now, that I am quite capable of experiencing and expression anger and even cruelty but I do believe in the fundamental "good" in me and in most people I know in my life and you are all part of my inner and outer life. Ali, touched by the discussion, wrote from Baghdad: Dear Victoria: and all friends and dreamers. I believe that there are many things that we can do. exchange of ideas can evoke others to think and brain storm their minds ... What to do Who do what, and when. Each one can dream of peace and tranquility. Each one can pray and ask His Lord for more stability and peace for the Humanbeings and to behave in Human way. Every one can light a candle and that might ligh the pathway in our dark hostile paths that are full of criminals and merciless mercineries...... The wish list will never end.... But dear friends I feel so good to have your reflections and that is really impressive. I usually have print out of these electonic encounters and show it to my colleagues in the hospital and else where to prove to them, that we are not alone. Ali o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Dream: “Turning into Stone” Stan Kulikowski II o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o DATE : 26 aug 2005 05:00 DREAM : turning into stone =( yesterday was thursday. school has started up again and i have short classes scheduled every day around noon. it feels odd to be so employed after the entire summer with nothing. the programming project i worked on all summer is about two weeks from done but i do not know when i will have time to get back to it with this schedule. during the evening i had to get the student pictures into the seating charts on the web site and review material for my next classes on programming and multimedia. mother and i watched some DVDs of the series _earth 2_ before i got to bed around midnight. i fell asleep rather easily. )= it is late afternoon, almost sunset. i am walking down the long country road past the farm where janeen lives. i am not expecting anything in particular, indeed not expecting to see her. just walking past the place where i used to feel so happy. "stan?" i hear her voice say my name. i look around as if finally noticing where i am. janeen is standing in the small garden behind her father's house, picking some vegetables from the lush, ordered rows of plants. she is wearing her tight jeans and a simple tee shirt, looking as thin and beautiful as ever. "i did not mean to disturb you." i tell her. "i was just walking and happened to pass here without thinking." the last part is true, about not thinking. "well, come on in here for a while. my parents are away and i could use some company." my heart starts racing, filled with hope. i never did see why i failed with her and have always lived with the hope that someday she would want me back. i go into the garden to help pick some of the hot red peppers she has been gathering. janeen talks for a while, saying just little things about but i can hardly hear her over the rapid beating of my heart and trying to keep my breath from racing away from me. finally i hear her ask a question and realize that i should answer. "would you consider eating a second dessert with someone else as double dipping?" she had asked. "i wouldn't want to." i reply simply. "well, i am thinking that i might have some coffee and doughnuts with you just now." i just understand her implication that she has already had dessert with somebody. my heart goes suddenly cold with fear but keeps beating at its frantic pace with hope and desire. god knows i would take her anyway i could get her. janeen keeps talking, but now about some other man she has been seeing as if i were some confidant about her romantic affairs. she hopes that nothing will stop her from getting pregnant with him and marrying him but he is so into their church that she might not be able to catch him at the right time. whatever that means. janeen wanting to get pregnant? that is not like her at all. i can hardly hear her words as i am still feeling the hope churning deep inside me while everything she says is locking up everything else in me. janeen finally comes over close to me just as the sun flares just before it goes under the horizon. oh, that familiar smell of her. she puts her arms around my shoulders and i stiffly respond by taking her waist. she feels so firm and solid. she bends her head slightly to the side. i taste the salt on her skin as i lightly kiss her neck. "nothing is going to stop from being with earl." she says. earl. so now i must know his name even. it sinks into me like a nail. "but i might from time to time share a little comfort with you on the side." a little comfort. all my muscles are slowly clenching tighter and tighter but she does not seem to notice. inside my heart is still pumping madly with insane hope but her every word is now sealing me into despair. i look down at my hands. i can not move my cold fingers. the ends of them are turning gray. i can still taste the salt of her lovely slim neck upon my lips, but i feel like i am turning into stone. =( awake at 4:41. my body still feels tense and leaden like it did in the dream. the somatic reaction i felt continued on for a while as i lay awake in bed. i guess this was somewhat like janeen as uncomfortable she made me feel when she broke my heart, but she was usually straight forward with me. earl was the name of my maternal grandfather, who i generally liked. i have no other association with the name here. the farm in the country was not like the one janeen lived on in hadley massachusetts, but rather more like the one janet came from in ohio. so there seems to be some crossover between these farm girls that i loved. it takes me a while to decide to type this uncomfortable dream into my journal files, but i have not had a dream lately and there is plenty of time before i have to get ready for classes. if i skip a dream when i could write it, it seems to suppress others from coming so i hope to prime the dream pump with collecting this one. it certainly seems to have more significance to me than i like to admit. the feel of her, her smell and taste, seem so familiar like it was just yesterday that i could hold her. )= --- stankuli@etherways.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Dream Section is edited by Kat Peters-Midland from the Rocky Mountain Dream Journal Teeth falling out, being killed in a car crash, being unable to call out on a phone, being chased by someone, and being dead in the dream…another colorful dream section of Electric Dreams! Dream title: Calm of the Night Dream date: August 23 2005 Dreamer name: st-jacques Dream text: I am walking through a village in the early morning hours. There are huts made of some sort of grass all around me that blend into the scenery like a jungle. Village people are running from me into their huts. I see a large hut down one dirt path and enter. I go down a few steps and find myself a bottle and have a drink from it. This liquid burns my throat as it goes down but I feel very warm and content. I leave this hut and go back into the dirt street. Far down this path in some dense ferns, sits a lion on some large leaves. He looks at me and rises. A small lion cub is seated behind him. They nod respectfully at me and go back into the jungle. I follow the path for some time in the heat of the mid-day sun until I see a hill with a large tree at the top. I trek up the hill for some distance until I arrive at this one lonely tree. I climb the tree and rest on a limb that looks out over the lights of fires coming from the now distant village. A man walks the path with a small boy. The man is injured and walks with a limp. He has a long staff made of warped wood. The boy helps him along. They are dressed in rags and look as though their journey has been long. They are weak, but I sense inner strength. I look at them both as they stand in the dusk staring back at me. The man is speaking in a language foreign to me. He is showing me to the child. They seem to want permission to pass. I allow it with a nod of my head and I am making a soft rumbling sound. As I watch them walk on down the path, I look down and begin to lick my large black paws. My tail is flicking gently as night begins to fall. I am thinking now that my world is calm and as I drift into sleep on this hot starry night, high on the tree limb, I am content. Dream comments: This dream was so colorful. Absolute reality. Absolute calm. Dream title: The Lawyer’s Daughter Dream date: August 27, 2005 Dreamer name: St. Jacques Dream text: I am in a diner or bar with another woman. I am a prostitute or something like that and so is she. I am seeing myself in the mirror and laugh at the sadness of this image: Thin and tall, with black tank top and blue jeans. Four men are seated at a table. One calls my friend over and offers her a beer. She declines and he pulls her arm to seat her, and then licks the side of her face. She slaps him and rises from the table. I am with a man that wants sex, but has no money. I push him aside. He is boring me anyway with idle chatter. He is a law student and I am not impressed. Two men at the table begin to harass me verbally and I am angry now. They are young law students in their twenties but are arrogant and rude in their behavior. I have seen this before and my mind now flashes to a man that I had been seeing. He was a lawyer with two mistresses and plenty of cash to burn. I knew his fate, I saw it happen... then I flashed back to the table to jeering men. A slapping sound distracts me and I turn to see two girls hitting my friend. I grab one girl and pull her off but a taller blonde girl is pushing and slapping my friend. I take her by the hair and pound her head against the window until she runs crying from out of the diner/bar. Moments later she rushes back with two police officers. One of the men at the table tells me she is a law student and her father is some big lawyer. They ask me what will happen to me. I tell them that she will prevail even though she started the fight. I tell them law protects the rich not the poor. The cops are respectful with me and ask what has happened. I explain the situation but I know I cannot win. I look to the law students and say "Tell them what you saw". Now they are all standing before me with disguises on. They will not say the truth. They only leave the diner one by one with their heads down to avoid any further confrontation. "What will happen to you"? Asks the other girl who I helped. I look down at my beer on the table and laugh. The cop asks me to stand now and I am being led away. Dream comments: Well I like this dream because I am not a violent person, I don't drink beer, I’m not a prostitute, but... I don't particularly like lawyers... so at least a part of me was there in the body of that girl. I frequently see myself in my dreams as other people with completely different characters to that of my own. Dream title: The Unexplained Coupe Dream date: August 24, 2005 Dreamer name: St-Jacques Dream text: I am riding in a bus around 3a.m. The bus slows to a halt and I jump out onto a barren field, in the dark, in the middle of nowhere. I begin to run across this field until I see a street lamp in the distance. A small corner shop is open and I enter and ask for coffee. I am given a small cone-shaped object and two small round balls. I pay 4 dollars for this. It is some form of caffeine (coffee flavored liquid-condensed cone) with nutritional food supplements. There is now a line-up behind me to get some. I light a cigarette outside under the street lamp and chat with someone who is awaiting a bus. A car pulls up. The driver is a man, a friend, but virtually faceless. I get in and we continue on to the inner parts of a large city as dawn approaches. We are parked on the rise of a hill, surrounded by large buildings. Two high rises are at the bottom right of the hill. I sense there is something coming and I feel electricity in the air. The humidity of this morning is unbearable. There is no wind and too much silence for such a metropolitan area. As the occupants of the car chat and take in their supplements and caffeine, I turn, looking down the hill at the two large buildings. I see three people dressed in orange suits (like haz-mat suits) with masks, scaling down the left side of one of the buildings using black ropes like cliff descenders. Suddenly gunfire breaks out in the streets. I cannot see very well down the hill directly behind me, but there appear to be several people involved. As I turn to look back, a middle age man in a gray suit approaches the passenger side of the vehicle where I am seated. He pulls a gun out and points it to my head. I lean towards the driver awaiting the impact and looking directly at the gun. The man says "is this your day to die". I cannot respond nor move at this point. Gunfire sounds much louder now as if it is coming toward us on the street. The man pulls the gun back away from my head. He turns and begins to run. The car I am in speeds away to an interstate highway above the city. We are driving toward a familiar part of the city now that I have been to in many earlier dreams. "I know a woman here who once sold me an antique typewriter" I tell the driver. I am looking for the street to find her. She was a thin older woman who often sat on the front steps of her building and sold items she had salvaged from the clothing district not far away. I find myself in familiar territory now, seeing the derelict buildings on side streets. I am approaching my destination. I am thinking that this was not my day to die. Dream comments: none Dream title: Unable to call out on a phone Dream date: 08/26/05 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I drove a truck to a secure work place that was not my own. I left the truck unlocked with my purse in it. On the way to the building, I find my emptied purse with just my keys in it. All my cash, credit cards, identification checks that make up everything in the purse are gone. I am in the work place - it has work stations and small offices without windows. People are dressed professionally and are working. I asked to use the phone to report the loss of the contents of my purse. A woman asks if I would like her to make the calls for me. I say, "of course not, I can take care of the problems in my life. I have been doing so for a long time." I can not seem to call out. I get busy signals or wrong numbers. The time creeps by. I keep trying and speak with people on the phone that are not who I am trying to call. It is now 5:00 P.M the banks are closed. I have not gotten the message out to cancel my cards and stop the use of my checks and identification. I feel helpless and at loss. I realize my money may be gone and my debts run up by a thief. I tell myself to leave this place and get in my truck and handle the situation from somewhere else. Dream comments: Does this mean I am not able to control my finances? I am at loss. Dream title: Weird Disco Science Dream date: August 23, 2005 Dreamer name: SD Dream text: We are in my room, which is big enough to be a school. There is a huge lab table set up near my door where a teacher and student are doing scientific experiments with chemicals and they spill a few. I run and hide under my bed for some reason and then I am at a disco. While I am there, I am a girl until I start to dance with a girl I have never seen before. (Her name is unknown to me but she was wearing a red dress and heels and she had brown hair). All of a sudden, I am a guy in disco clothes. I have to beat someone in a contest to live. We do the Sunday night disco, The Soul Train. And then I flip almost over her backwards –it is not what I was supposed to do! But we all crack up laughing and I am allowed to live because we all agree that I won. Then all of a sudden my mom says "Sue I really hope we can see you again sometime!" I find out Sue is engaged, which surprises me because I never saw the ring. Then I use my cell phone and get out from under my bed. I run over to the two science guys and knock over all their chemicals and they just stare at me. Then I am in my bed larger. Dream comments: none Dream title: deaf Dream date: 08/19/2005 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: dead bodies where all around and we called the police and they said that we were crazy because they wasn't no where to be found Dream comments: none Dream title: Crash!! Dream date: 8/17/05 Dreamer name: none Dream text: I was driving in my mom’s car with my sister. All of a sudden the car started to spin out of control and we ended up hitting a bunch of side rails on the side of the road. Then we ended up being wrapped around a pole and we both didn’t survive. Dream comments: Every time I would wake up then fall back asleep the dream would start over. Dream title: Our Old house Dream date: August 16, 2005 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: The old house my parents, two of my brothers, and I used to live in had been occupied by the owner. He had tons of children - not his own - living with him. I had gone to claim the house as ours but he told me it wasn't; then I left. Dream comments: When my mom died we all moved out of the house. Dream title: The frog in the stream and bread Dream date: 8/16/2005 Dreamer name: Victoria Dream text: I was relaxing on a window seat (the size of a bed) with a work colleague, whose name I know but have not actually met. We were lying down looking out of the window, watching a beautiful clear stream flowing past. I saw a frog that was red and white in a swirl pattern. I also saw a small rodent that we could not identify which was small and had long brown hair and black spots. It was wearing a purple collar and we remarked that it must belong to someone. After leaving the room, we walked through a large kitchen that belonged to one of my work colleagues. In the middle of the kitchen there were lots of loaves of freshly baked bread on the large marble table. After walking through the kitchen we were back on the window seat looking out at the stream and frog. Dream comments: This loop occurred about 6 times in the dream. Dream title: This is my destiny Dream date: 1997 Dreamer name: Kel Dream text: I am walking along with my parents and a young girl (around 9 years old). All of a sudden a crevasse opens up and my parents fall in. I struggle to get them out, and manage to get my mother out but not my father, who disappears into to the hole. We carry on walking and reach a door surrounded by Doric columns. The girl turns around and is about to leave us. She holds up her hand which acts as a camera and shows a picture of my father falling into the hole, and says "this is your destiny". Dream comments: This dream has haunted me for many years, and I still don't really know what it means. My mother is very religious while my father believes that there is nothing after death. Initially I was terrified by the dream because it seemed to be saying that I would not achieve any spiritual progress, but rather fall into an abyss of ignorance. However, I know for certain that there is life after death, having done many shamanic practices related to dying (psychopomp etc) so it cannot mean my own ignorance. Maybe instead it means that my task it to stop people falling into the abyss. In the eight years since this dream occurred my father has become much less closed to the possibility of spirituality of some kind existing, as has my brother, thanks to my sharing my experiences with them. Dream title: Getting married Dream date: 8/10/05 Dreamer name: JA Dream text: I was at my wedding, and I was trying to figure out who I was getting married to. Then I asked my cousin and she showed my picture, and everyone could tell that I couldn't remember. And then I told everyone that he is ugly and I stopped the wedding, and left. Then he was showing my mom the wedding ring, but I think it was a watch!!! Dream comments: This is really weird I am a teenager!!! Dream title: The Dry Sea Dream date: July 9, 2005 Dreamer name: LB Dream text: I am walking out of the house into a valley of banks and shores there were acres upon acres of shrimp and fish lying on the ground, as though the sea had gone dry and the shrimp and fish were just lying there... they were not dead. There were mostly shrimp. I have never seen anything like it... it went on for miles. Dream comments: This is a very short dream or the only part I remember I am not sure what this all means but it is just one of the many fascinating dreams I have been having lately. Dream title: Death or Beetle Juice flashback Dream date: 8/06/2005 Dreamer name: BM Dream text: I was in a car accident and paramedics pulled me from my car and into the ambulance. I do not remember much of the wreck, just that my car was fucked and had flipped a few times (a lot like the accident I had a couple years ago) As soon as the stretcher was in, I sat up and made my way out of the back door of the ambulance. None of the paramedics stopped me from doing so. From the scene of the accident I walked home which took a matter of seconds. Upon opening my front door I felt something wasn’t right. As I walked into my house I saw someone sitting on my couch, it was me. I was sitting on the couch watching TV just as I had done prior to the wreck. I watched myself walk out the front door and I noticed a book on the table. It was almost like being in the movie Beetle Juice for a moment. The book mentioned something about death on the cover, and I avoided the book and continued to walk around my house. "I'm dead" oddly enough the mere thought of being dead and the effect I know it will have on people in my life depresses me, but I was not sad. I was anxious and tense and wanted nothing more than to explore. As sad as it seems I was trying to sign on-line in death to let the love of my life know I was dead. Why? I do not know. I guess even in death you can use yahoo messenger. I signed on and began talking with Arthur, every time I tried to tell him that I had died or explain any part of it, the letters on the screen would scramble. And the second I would press enter on the key board everything around me would ripple like I had been crossing some boundary. Everything would become blurry and a vibration would overcome me like I was doing something unnatural. I gave up on the computer and went and lay down in my room. (At this point I am lucidly dreaming. If you have ever experienced this you will know exactly what I am talking about. The only difference here is I knew I was dreaming yet I seriously thought I was dead. In lucid dreams you can control them and you are completely aware you are dreaming. My lucid dream had limitations I suppose. It was also in color which is not so common with dreams.) As I lay on my bed, knowledge filled my mind with what was going on. It wasn’t a voice, but thoughts and answers that filled my head. I was to remain in my house for 24 hours if I were to close my eyes or fall asleep I would leave for my destination sooner. I was not certain about my destination because religion is not a major part of my life. But it also became clear that someone who has already passed to the other side wherever that may be will come to take me to my destination. Having a career in nursing, I have been with many people at the moment of their deaths, so I wasn’t sure who exactly would come to get me. There was too much going on in my head and I felt drained. My eyes began to flutter I was tired and freaked out by this whole thing. As my eyes closed...... a baby blue old style low rider pulled up in my room right next to my bed. "They are here to pick me up" "NO!" The low rider started to blur and ripple and fade away. Dream comments: I sat up quickly and turned off my alarm clock that was blaring in my ear. I’m alive and it is the creepiest feeling to wake up from death let me tell you. Even so, I lay back down and slept some more. I read once that dreaming about death can mean the start of something new in life. My death could very well signify a phase in my life that desperately needs to draw to a close. I hope that this is true, and that new beginnings and life changes happen. Dream title: Panic Dream date: 08/05/2005 Dreamer name: NoSecurity Dream text: I am in a mall or some type of a building, I am in a panic, there was some type of alarm which I did not hear, but everyone is scurrying to get out. As I open every door to a store, the lights go out - this happens in two or three different stores. I proceed to the stairwell and for some reason I go up instead of down. I open doors on different floors that lead outside and the first is sunny and bright with grass and swing sets. I shut the door and proceed to go up the stairs. I get to the top floor and there is a menacing-looking man. I know he is the person that everyone is running away from, but I am not afraid of him. I open the door behind him that leads outside, there is a toy plane/rocket, that looks like plastic. It is red, yellow and blue, (I found out later that it was an Atomic bomb), and I shut the door. There is a little boy with him (a toddler) and he is standing up and looking straight at me. The man says to me "If you do not want him, I know what to do with him!" I knew deep down that he was going to kill the child if I did not take him. I picked up the child and ran down the stairs like a bat out of hell. I get home somehow; I proceed to tell someone about what just happened. I don't know who I told but it was a man I knew. Then my boyfriend calls me on the phone and tells me that he is drunk, this irritated me and I think, "Damn, he's never around when I need him!" Well at this point I am in the backyard with my boyfriend’s boss; we are sitting at a picnic table with a black gas grill next to the table. My boyfriend’s boss drinks my boyfriend’s Nesquick chocolate milk after I told him not to (because my boyfriend would be pissed). The child that I brought home is now somehow a kitten. My boyfriend finally shows up, (but it doesn't look like him) and I told him what happened. I proceed to tell him that his boss drank his chocolate milk, expecting him to be pissed, but he just shrugged it off. I am then in a small living room and the little boy that turned into a kitten has now turned into a little girl about 7-8 years of age, she is wearing a pink dress white stockings and pink shoes. I seem to be talking to a female family member-but I can't actually see them-and I am proud of the little girl. Dream comments: I've had a lot of emotional downs in my life recently and I doubt just about everything that I have to make a decision about, I avoid decisions and confrontations at all costs, even my own happiness and sanity. Dream title: Losing my teeth Dream date: August 1, 2, 2005 Dreamer name: Sunshine Dream text: I have dreamed for the past 2 nights that I am losing my teeth. One by one they start falling out, and it hurts, but I am more scared then anything. I just remember panicking and not knowing what I can do or what can be done. Dream comments: I read somewhere that teeth falling out is normally an unfavorable sign in a dream. It signifies displeasure and also shows that you are afraid of losing someone dear to you. Dream title: Baseball Dream date: July 28, 2005 Dreamer name: Macaroni Dream text: I was on my way to a baseball game and when we got halfway there I realized that I didn’t have any money on me. I figured that I was going to have to get some money somehow but I just couldn’t figure out a way. When I got to where I was going someone loaned me a dollar so that I could get a drink from a machine. When I put my dollar in the machine out came like thousands of dollars and all the food and drink I could dream of. When I split the money with a kid I was rooming with, he went out and bought about 200 juice packs and about 30 packs of hotdogs. We were set for the rest of the trip. Then our hotel room that we were staying in got robbed and everything that we had bought was gone. We ended up fighting a big huge group of people to get our stuff back...then poof I was awake again Dream comments: weirdest one to come yet Dream title: I Jump Dream date: Dreamer name: Helena Dream text: I am being chased by someone they are quite far behind me. I come to a flight of stairs and go down three - I stop I Panic I jump. But I am ok. 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