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Volume #14  Issue #5
 
May 2007

ISSN# 1089 4284

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Electric Dreams: http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams
Cover: Cover by Richard Wilkerson
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C O N T E N T S 

++ Editor's Notes 
   Richard Wilkerson

++ Global Dreaming News 
   Harry Bosma
    
++ Column: An Excerpt from the Lucid Dream Exchange
           Editor, Lucy Gillis
           Integrating Lucid Dream Characters 
           David L. Kahn
           
++ Column: The View – World Dreams Peace Bridge:
           Ebb and Flow
           David L. Kahn

++  Dream:  "F191"
             Stan Kulikowski II 

++ Article: Sex and Sustenance in Dreamwork
            Kurt Forrer  

++ Column: Dreaming Writers 
           DreamRePlay with David Jenkins, PhD           


++ DREAM SECTION: From Kat Peters-Midland
                    
 
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 Editor's Notes

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Welcome to the May 2007 issue of Electric Dreams, your 
portal to dreams and dreamwork online. 

If you are new to dreams and dreamwork, there are a few e-
lists where Electric Dreams people seem to congregate that 
might interest you. One is 
dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com 
Subscribe by going here and registering
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dreamchatters/

.. and another is the IASD bulletin board. Please, no 
dreams interpreted here, just discussion of dreaming and 
dreamwork topics. 
http://www.asdreams.org/subidxdiscussionsbboard.htm


 Dream Hunting Season is now officially open, so put on 
your red caps (or get you’re your hunting gear) and get 
ready.  From the IASD conference at Sonoma State University 
to the Drum, Dance and Dance for Peace event in Washington 
DC to the 2nd International Conference of Nordic and North 
European Network for the Study of Dreams, to the many 
channels for dream sharing online and via IASD DreamTime 
radio shows and regional workshops, lectures and other 
events, you are bound to bag the dream event of your 
choice.  If you can’t find a dream event that pleases you 
this season, well, dream up one of your own and send it in. 


In this issue:

Global Dreaming News editor Harry Bosma, brings you dream 
news and events from around the world, online and offline. 
If you have dream news you want to get out, please send 
those to Harry for next month’s publication at 
ed-news@alquinte.com

Lucy Gillis travels the virtual globe in search of lucid 
dreamer’s and their stories which go into the Lucid Dream 
Exchange. This month she presents David L. Kahn and his 
views on integration in lucid dreaming. Is it all a matter 
of being conscious, of dialogue, of willingness to look at 
the dark side? Kahn suggests that Integrity is the key 
which binds these and other techniques together to make for 
an integrated personality through lucid dreamwork. Read 
more about this in this month’s excerpt from the Lucid 
Dream Exchange, “Integrating Lucid Dream Characters.”

David L Kahn fills in for Jean Campbell on “The View”, the 
monthly news and information forum from The World Dreams 
Peace Bridge.  The upcoming Drum, Dance and Dream for Peace 
is of major focus, and regional participation is 
encouraged. This event will open the Peace and Leadership 
Day, June 25, at the World Children's Festival on the 
National Mall in Washington, DC.  Read about this and other 
global events in “Ebb and Flow.”  
 
David Jenkins, PhD., the explorer of the wide, wide world 
of dreaming, reports these adventures through his weekly 
online e-pulse, DreamPlay. This month’s selection in 
EDreams is “Dreaming Writers” where David looks into the 
dreams of authors, particularly Steven King via Naomi 
Epel’s book on the topic.  David also shows how these 
dreams can be used for creative inspiration and personal 
growth. 

Is you dream journal a literary mess of fragments, hard to 
read entries and half told stories? Perhaps you need to 
apply your literary skills to these stories. Check out how 
Stan Kulikowski II writes up his dream texts in  “F191.”

Kurt Forrer may shock you at first “If dreams are about 
life, about survival, then an interpretation without the 
sexual facet is nothing short of castrating the dream. “ 
What can this mean? Is this a return to one dimensional 
sexual interpretations, or a re-reading of Freud that may 
bring juice and life back into dreamwork?  In Kurt Forrer’s 
“Sex and Sustenance in Dreamwork” he asks “Can basic 
beliefs dreamers don’t know about coerce them into actions 
against their better judgment?” …and finds ancient formulas 
that may save the modern world. 

Here is a new collection of dreams with a burning building, 
a meteor striking the earth, an engulfing shroud, and 
floating fish.  … it could only be the dream section of the 
Electric Dreams! From Kat Peters-Midland.

Get your own dream published on Electric Dreams by 
submitting at
http://dreamgate.com/forms/dream_flow.htm

Janet Garrett archives past issues so you can search out 
specific articles and authors in an easy-to-access format. 
These articles contain a wide range of information for 
dreamers and dreamworkers. You can see her work progress 
and view hundreds of article on dreams at: 
http://www.improverse.com/ed-articles/index.htm

Cover by Richard Wilkerson.  I have been thinking about the 
many “I”’s in a dream.
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For those of you who are new to dreamwork, 
be sure to stop by one of the many resources:

http://dreamgate.com/electric-dreams
http://dreamgate.com/dream/library
http://dreamunit.net/news-en/

Electric Dreams in PDF: 
Back online at a new archive 
Archive Courtesy of
Nick Cumbo
and the Dream of Peace Network

http://www.dreamofpeace.net.au/electric-dreams/


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Happy Hunting, 

-Richard Wilkerson 

	 
 
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Email all dream news to Harry Bosma at his special ed-
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G L O B A L    D R E A M I N G   N E W S
 
May 2007
 

Email all dream news to Harry Bosma at his special ed-
news@alquinte.com address.


Online:
- Dream Video Picks of the Month
- Lucid Dreaming Experiment at Dreamschool
- Toko-pa Turner's Dreamspeak Column
- Dream Journals on the Net

Physical world:
- IASD News: Annual Conference and Radio Show
- New Mexico: Victoria Rabinowe
- UK: Dream Conference

Books, movies, research:
- Ashtiany: Interpretation of Dreams in Islamic Lands
- Researching Dream Experiences that Influence Your Life

Reminders:
- Various calenders
- Strephon Says: Podcasts and blog
- Ritual DaFuMu for Peace


* * * ONLINE * * *

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- Dream Video Picks of the Month
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Creating and sharing videos is now easier than ever before. 
What are dreamers putting online? This month we have a 
theme of dream walks.

Silent Dream Walk - André Reis
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXqW2WoeSlg

Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - Dream
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBthooCJGHk

Walking Dream : Animation - itsjelly
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzPe8uTCjQo

Have you found other dream videos, or created your own, let 
us know.

Richard Wilkerson 


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- Lucid Dreaming Experiment at Dreamschool
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Dreamschool organizes a Global Lucid Dreaming Experiment at 
April 29th. The goal is to further humanity's awareness of 
common Mind experiences and stimulate dialogue and further 
research and development into humankind's super-normal 
potential.

www.dreamschool.org/NewSite/LucidDreaming/GlobalExperiment.
html

Homepage: www.dreamschool.org


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- Toko-pa Turner's Dreamspeak Column
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Toko-pa Turner started a weekly column about dreams on her 
blog. Find the link to that column, a great discussion 
forum, workshops, dream interpretation and more on the 
website.

www.herownroom.com/mainmenu.htm 


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- Dream Journals on the Net
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Simon's dream log has illustrations with some of the 
dreams:
www.ladytrap.org/dreams/dream_log.htm

Rob Couture has his dreams tagged so you can browse by 
category:
http://xuriel.com

Maximilian in Dreamland, also tagged with categories:
http://maximilianindreamland.blogspot.com/

I'm especially looking for current dream journals that 
present drawings and other pictures. Please email me if you 
know one.

Harry Bosma
ed-news@alquinte.com


* * * PHYSICAL WORLD * * *
 
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- IASD News: Annual Conference and Radio Show
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* The Spirit Of The Dream -- June 29 To July 3, 2007 *

This is planet earth's biggest dream conference ever! Drink 
in the majestic splendor of California's famous wine 
country while exploring your dreams.

You can now check out the full schedule (over 200 
presentations!) and list of presenters, including updated 
information on the pre-conference in-depth workshops on 
June 29th, continuing education (CE), and special events, 
as well as transportation and lodging and much more. 
Abstracts will come online in the first week of May.

Register now, enter The Spirit of the Dream, and join our 
dream community on the beautiful campus of Sonoma State 
University, in Rohnert Park, California (in wine country, 
one hour north of San Francisco). Visit the IASD 2007 
conference page for more information. Help IASD by sharing 
this link with a friend or colleague.

http://www.asdreams.org/2007/


* Electric Dreamers Special *

Free 6 week online History of Dreams Course for any 
subscriber that signs up for the 2007 IASD conference 
between May 1 and June 1, 2007. Just send a copy of your 
IASD conference registration receipt via email to 
rcwilk@dreamgate.com and say "Richard, I've signed up for 
the 2007 IASD conference, please put me on the next 
DreamGate History of Dreams online course!" Course 
materials are delivered twice a week for six weeks, you can 
do the exercises as they arrive or save them up and do them 
at your own pace. More course info at 
http://dreamgate.com/class


* Dream Time Radio Show *

IASD's "Dream Time", an Internet radio program, is 
broadcasting each Wednesday at 9am Pacific (Noon Eastern), 
the show airs with a rebroadcast 12 hours later. This 
series with many famous dream experts is going to end in 
May.

May 2: Working in Dream Groups - Jeremy Taylor, Bob Haden

www.health.voiceamerica.com
www.dreamscience.org


The IASD website: www.asdreams.org 


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- New Mexico: Victoria Rabinowe
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* May 8, 2007: Rules of the Road *

A Dreamer’s Deck of Divination Cards.

Are you exceeding the speed limit? Are you going the wrong 
way? Should you be yielding to oncoming traffic? Should you 
be proceeding with caution? What are the alternative 
routes? 


* May 12, 2007: The Art of the Dream *

Exhibition and Open Studio with over 100 dream books and 
illustrated journals by artist/dreamers.

Guests are invited to a hands-on exhibit of one hundred 
hand-crafted dream books embellished with montage, collage, 
drawings and creative writings by members of the Santa Fe 
Book Arts Group (B.A.G.). These intuitive and experimental 
dream books have been created in response to thought 
provoking universal, archetypal themes in weekly “Art of 
the Dream” workshops with Victoria Rabinowe. Born out of 
the realm of mystery and paradox, these books contain 
intriguing dreamwork that is narrative, symbolic and 
mythic.


* May 15, 2007: Queen of the Night *

Dreams of the Mother, In Honor of Mother’s Day

The Mother is the channel for bringing our soul to life. 
Like an alchemist, she transforms our spirit into form.


* May 22, 2007: Pilgrim's Progress *

"One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose 
sight of the shore for a very long time." - André Gide


* May 29, 2007: Rememberance *

In honor of Memorial Day. Bring a dream of a Dearly 
Departed One.


Visit the website: http://victoriadreams.com

Victoria Rabinowe
Dreaming Arts Studio
1432 Don Gaspar, Santa Fe
505 988-1086
victoria@victoriadreams.com


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- UK: Dream Conference
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2nd International Conference of the Nordic and North 
European Network for the Study of Dreams
7 - 9th September 2007 at Bishop Grosseteste University 
College Lincoln, England

The deadline for submitting presentations expired on April 
27th 2007. So far far the countries represented with 
presentations are the UK, USA, Netherlands and Switzerland. 
Submissions from Denmark, Germany and Sweden are also 
expected, but weren't received yet at the time of writing 
this news item.

For more information try this direct link:

www.bishopg.ac.uk/?_id=10136&page=1

Or alternatively, find the conferences link at the homepage 
of the Bishop Grosseteste University College Lincoln 
website:

www.bishopg.ac.uk 



* * * BOOKS, MOVIES, RESEARCH * * *

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- Ashtiany: Interpretation of Dreams in Islamic Lands
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Dreaming Across Boundaries: The Interpretation of Dreams in 
Islamic Lands
by Serpil Bagci (Author), Olga M. Davidson (Author), 
Yehoshua Frenkel (Author), Rotraud E. Hansberger (Author), 
Hagar Kahana-Smilansky (Author), Jonathan G. Katz (Author), 
Leah Kinberg (Author), John C. Lamoreaux (Author), Mohammad 
J. Mahallati (Author), Eric Ormsby (Author), Sholeh A. 
Quinn (Author), Khalid Sindawi (Author), Mohsen Ashtiany 
(Editor)

Descriptions of dreams abound in the literatures of the 
Near East and North Africa. The Prophet Muhammad endowed 
them with a theological dimension, saying that after him 
"true dreams" would be the only channel for prophecy. 
Dreams were often used to support conflicting theological 
and political arguments, and the local chronicles contain 
many accounts of royal dreams justifying the advent of new 
dynasties.

This volume explores the context of these theological 
speculations and political aspirations through the medium 
of dreams to present fascinating insights into the social 
history of the pre-modern Islamic world in all its cultural 
diversity. Wider cultural exchanges are discussed through 
concrete examples such as the Arabic version of the 
Aristotelian treatise De divinatione per somnum. Some of 
the current scholarly assumptions about dreams being merely 
stylized expressions of social conventions are challenged 
by personal reports that express individual personalities, 
self-awareness, and spiritual development.

This is the first volume of the Ilex Series on Themes and 
Traditions. The series explores cross-cultural constructs 
without losing sight of the rich texture of local 
variations of traditions or beliefs.

www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674021223/


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- Researching Dream Experiences that Influence Your Life
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The goal of this questionnaire is to study dream 
experiences that influence your life or have a special 
quality in somebody's existence. The results of this 
questionnaire will be presented at the annual IASD 
Conference, which will be held in Sonoma, California, USA 
from June 28 to July 3, 2007.

Hermine Mensink works as health care psychologist and 
psychotherapist from her office in Amsterdam, the 
Netherlands. She has been a member of the IASD since 1994 
and became a Board member in June, 2006. Professor Bierman 
supervises the project. He has worked for the Dutch 
Institute of Parapsychology for many years.

www.dreamresearch.nl 



* * * REMINDERS * * *

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- Various calenders
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Nicole Gratton (Canada):
http://www.nicole-gratton.com/calendrier_01.htm

Robert Moss (USA):
http://mossdreams.com/xcalendar.htm

Jeremy Taylor (California):
www.jeremytaylor.com/pages/schedule.html


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- Strephon Says: Podcasts and blog
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Strephon Kaplan-Williams is an international expert on 
dreams and dreamwork. Now in retirement age Strephon gives 
his podcasts.

http://strephonsays.com


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- Ritual DaFuMu for Peace
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The World Dreams Peace Bridge, on the 15th of each month, 
is holding a monthly DaFuMu - a collective dream of good 
fortune - to support peace.

For more information go to:
http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/dafumumonthly.htm

To join the World Dreams Peace Bridge discussion group, 
just send an e-mail to worlddreams-
subscribe@yahoogroups.com .

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An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange
Integrating Lucid Dream Characters
David L Kahn
[Lucy Gillis, Editor]

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The Lucid Dream Exchange is pleased to present a new 
quarterly column by David L. Kahn. His first article for 
LDE, “Integrating Lucid Dream Characters” appeared in LDE 
42.

Integrating Lucid Dream Characters
(c) David L. Kahn 2007


The word Integrity conjures up images of a person in power, 
such as a business or political leader who demonstrates 
high moral values.  On a personal level, to live with 
integrity is something we associate as being honest to 
one's self and acting in a way that we believe is in the 
best interest of others.  Our dreaming mind firmly but 
caringly shows us that which we deny, and in so doing 
guides us towards a life of integrity - if we choose to 
listen.  This connection between dreams and integrity can 
be looked at as 1) your dreaming mind never suggests that 
you act in a way that is knowingly harmful to others, 2) 
dreams are there to repair, never to impair, and 3) 
integration of neglected or separated aspects of your 
personality is an essential part of achieving your highest 
potential.  Can lucid dreaming be used as a means of 
integrating our lost or forgotten personality traits?

The self-integration view of the word Integrity is defined 
by The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy as "A matter of 
persons integrating various parts of their personality into 
a harmonious, intact whole."  This type of integration 
(integrity) within a lucid dream may present itself 
literally as the person merging with another person, animal 
or object as seen in the following example by Ralf Penderak 
of Badendorf, Germany.

I'm in the fields on the back of my house. I'm jumping 
backwards, and the jumps are getting longer and longer. How 
is that? I must be dreaming! 
Everything fades to grey, like so often in the moment that 
I become lucid. 
This time I won't give in to physical awaking so easily, 
but I start singing and dancing, with slowly rotating turns 
around my axis. After a few seconds I see my son and my dog 
(a Dalmatian) standing by a small tree. At first I don't 
want to go there, but then I realize that this is a good 
chance for interaction. I remember that mostly everybody 
just disappears from dream scene once I become lucid. So, I 
go there and start playing with my dog, at first orbiting 
each other slowly, then faster and faster, until we are one 
whirl with no more borders between us. We melt into each 
other in ecstasy. 
When we calm down, I see my skin is now white fur with 
black dots. I awake physically. Ecstasy lingers and makes 
my day.

Dream characters that represent aspects of your personality 
are an interesting bunch.  There are some that seem to 
prefer their privacy, but if called upon they'll show up to 
perform some function.  Others are ready to be reintegrated 
into the "you" of the dream, no longer choosing to remain 
as a separate character.  After integrating an athlete you 
may find yourself ready to get back into shape, or perhaps 
the integration of an artist sparks an old interest in 
painting.

Robert Waggoner recently provided us with the following 
example of an integration that occurred within his dream...

...Behind me, I see a tall slender black woman, who seems 
to be with us.  It seems the farm wife doesn't care to mix 
their food with our food.  We wait. 
As I sit there, I look at my brother and then at the black 
woman; it suddenly occurs to me, "This is a dream."  I 
stand up and want to know what this means.  I pick up the 
black woman and ask, "Who are you?  Who are you?" 
  She looks at me, and surprises me with her response.  "I 
am a discarded aspect of your self."  Immediately, I sense 
the truth of her statement and feel the need to reintegrate 
her into my being.  She then energetically evaporates into 
me, once I accept the truth of her statement.

Lucid dreams provide us with a unique opportunity to heal 
by rejoining our fragmented personality traits with the 
whole.  Asking your dream characters who they are or what 
they want should provide you with some interesting, and 
perhaps unexpected, responses.

An interesting lucid dream experiment would be to see if 
you can integrate a previously non-existent personality 
trait within the conscious "you."  For example, perhaps you 
have been shy for as long as you can remember and you would 
like more courage.  If you found a courageous dream 
character and asked them to join you, what response might 
you get?  Or, maybe you would like to play classic rock 
guitar.  If you invited Jimi Hendrix to become a part of 
you, would your ability to understand the music improve?  
Of course it may be best to simply see who shows up, 
trusting that they are there for reasons that are important 
to the greater "you."

German gestalt psychologist and lucid dreamer Paul Tholey 
used his Conciliatory Method to make peace with dream 
characters.  He found that by using this approach, dream 
characters would often transform from "lower order to 
higher order creatures," thereby helping the meaning of the 
dream make more sense.  For example, a beast might 
transform into a human, and from there the human might 
integrate with you as seen in Tholey's own example...

I became lucid, while being chased by a tiger, and wanted 
to flee. I then pulled myself back together, stood my 
ground, and asked, "Who are you?" The tiger was taken aback 
but transformed into my father and answered, "I am your 
father and will now tell you what you are to do!" In 
contrast to my earlier dreams, I did not attempt to beat 
him but tried to get involved in a dialogue with him. I 
told him that he could not order me around. I rejected his 
threats and insults. On the other hand, I had to admit that 
some of my father's criticism was justified, and I decided 
to change my behavior accordingly. At that moment my father 
became friendly, and we shook hands. I asked him if he 
could help me, and he encouraged me to go my own way alone. 
My father then seemed to slip into my own body, and I 
remained alone in the dream.

The opposite of integration, of course, is disintegration - 
which is a word that we tend to associate negatively.   The 
Cambridge Dictionary of American English defines 
disintegrate as "to become weaker or be destroyed by 
breaking into smaller pieces."  Would you ever want to 
disintegrate any aspect of your personality?  Consider 
this; cancer cells are part of the physical whole of a 
person.  In this case, the attempt to regain health is done 
by disintegrating - destroying - those cells.  A negative 
personality trait can cause damage to the entire person, 
even to the detriment of that part of the person - much 
like how the cancer cells inevitably destroy themselves.  
The "cancerous" personality trait may even be a physical 
aspect of you, such as the smoker or couch potato. These 
personality traits often make their entry into your psyche 
at a point in your life in which some form of defense is 
created to counter a real or imagined stress or danger.  In 
some cases they serve dutifully, but it is time they 
retire.

For example, guilt can be a good way to prevent further bad 
life choices that are harmful to yourself or others, but 
when you carry guilt with you years after the event, who 
does it really serve?  Just as there are personality traits 
that are best suited to be reintegrated into the group, 
others should be voted off the island.

The trick with disintegrating personality traits is to not 
eliminate one negative trait by using another.  In other 
words, if Judgment and Anger vote Guilt off the island, you 
are still only left with Judgment and Anger. 
 
Compassion and Understanding, on the other hand, may help 
find Guilt an appropriate place to take residence.  The 
following is an example that I used in my book, A Dream 
Come True, and shows the results of a fear being 
disintegrated.

I am in the living room of one of my childhood homes.  I 
hear my father yelling very loudly.  He sounds very angry 
and I am afraid.  I try to find him, but I don't know where 
he is.  Now I see him.  He is coming down the hallway into 
the living room.  He looks to be about eight feet tall.  He 
looks angry.  I realize that this is a dream and I remember 
that I should try to show him love, rather than run away or 
fight.  I walk up to him and hug him.  He turns into my 
childhood dog, who I loved very much.

The disintegration appears in the dream as the scary 
personality trait shrinking and reducing itself down into 
something small, harmless, and loving.  The result of this 
disintegration is transformation, and ultimately that is 
the intention behind the dream.

With all of this adding and removing of personality traits, 
should you be worried about the mind conducting experiments 
like a mad scientist mixing ingredients with potentially 
disastrous results?  I think not.  Our dreaming minds have 
earned our trust.  This inner self wants only what is best 
for you, in a way that is also best for others.  That is 
what integrity is all about.

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THE VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE
Ebb and Flow
May 2007
David L. Kahn
 
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This past month has been a busy one for many Peace Bridge 
members.  This edition of the View was put together last 
minute due to time constraints, but it is these kinds of 
busy projects that represent who we are as a group.
 
Drum, Dance and Dream for Peace occurs just prior to the 
IASD conference.  This major event is the opening ceremony 
for Peace and Leadership Day, June 25, at the World 
Children's Festival on the National Mall in Washington.  It 
is filling Jean's schedule for much of the next couple of 
months, along with the schedules of Valley Reed, Jeremy 
Seligson, who will be conducting workshops at the event.  
Even if you can't get to Washington you can participate in 
this global event by forming a drumming circle at home.  
Whether or not you will be able to attend, I encourage 
everyone in our group to support this project.  Please 
visit www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/drumming for 
information.  There have been several recent changes. 

 You may also print flyers from the website for you to 
distribute.
 
Peace Bridge discussions and events of this past month 
ranged from poetry to the Virginia Tech shootings, from 
organized volunteer work to more suicide bombs.  Despite 
the constant stream of negative news, we are busier than 
ever doing what is within our ability to make a difference. 
Robert Waggoner, co-editor of the Lucid Dream Exchange, 
describes lucid dreaming not as the ability to control the 
ocean, but to take control of the ship.  This same train of 
thought can be seen in contributions from Peace Bridge 
members.
 
Ebb and Flow
 
Elk Looks Back to the Bridge:
I have watched the ships laden with gifts pitch and quake 
while
high seas did shutter the bounty into the deep

and those whose steady hands guided by prevailing winds 
into villainous
harbors
sang no more

a watcher, a twinkling star, a candle in the window
and tears a plenty given back to those high waters and even 
further to
the moon.
 
Hermine to the Bridge:
I dreamt yesterday morning I was on a ship and in the 
position of being the captain on board, using my compass to 
know in which direction I was going and that felt really 
good! It was on the ocean with big sails and for a longer 
journey. The compass as a symbol gave me strong and 
compassionate feelings and more self confidence.
 
Jody to the Bridge:
Hermine, beautiful strong dreamer: your compass gives you 
and us the direction to encompass all that we experience 
and feel, with compassion and courage to create a positive 
community future.
 
Ken to the Bridge:
I was in a semi lucid state and had been pondering on 
ancestors and how we must all have shared ancestors if we 
go back far enough, and how if we remember back far
enough we must all share the same source light of life and 
then a huge wave suffused every cell in my body and swept 
me up into the sky, yet the sky was like a liquid 
power...it was like being tumbled in a cosmic sea by a huge 
wave, I felt tiny but made of it and was not sure if I 
would survive (looks like I did though)..
 
Peace Bridge costume for Sonoma:
 
A number of Peace Bridge members have confirmed plans to 
attend at the Sonoma conference, coming from South Korea , 
Minnesota , Texas , California , Ohio , Jordan , Mexico , 
Virginia , Australia , Pennsylvania , and The Netherlands.
 
Jean to the Bridge:
If you're not on the list, and you're planning to come to 
the IASD conference, sing out :))
 
Jody to the bridge:
Shall we dream it, our Bridge costume?

Shall we BE a bridge?
A net?

A flock of Monarch butterflies?

Kotaro's flowers, all flower children of the world?

What do we dream together?



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Dream: F191
Stan Kulikowski II 

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DATE:   1 may 2007  09:19
DREAM:  F191

=( yesterday was a monday.  i finally got my motorcycle 
back from the shop but i do not think the repairs fixed its 
charging problem.  when i rode it around town, it showed 
signs of still getting harder to start with every stop and 
the battery went on hard charging again when i got home.  i 
did not get out to the metal fabrication shop to pick up 
the metal plate i need to repair the squirrel cage fan in 
my dryer.  the laundry is really piling up after two months 
with the washer dryer down.  evening went as usual and i 
got to sleep just after 01:00.  )=

the meeting has been long and i am glad that it finally 
over.  the final formation is held and dismissed.  i wait 
for my friend to come get me in the parking lot.  i am in 
my cadet uniform.  everyone has left but me. 
it is late afternoon.

finally i hear the loud noise of a jet aircraft and turn to 
see a sleek modern aircraft taxi up to me.  the cockpit 
canopy pops up and my friend, jr arthur leans out and waves 
to climb aboard.  the plane is low enough to the ground 
that i can just jump up to where the foot grooves for the 
ladder are recessed when the canopy is up.  i climb inside.

once inside the jet, in the back copilot seat, i find the 
spare helmet and put it on so i can use the intercom to 
talk with jr.  

"are you strapped in?"  i hear jr say in the helmet. "we 
have a long way to go, but this should get us there rather 
quickly."

"i am fine."  i tell him while buckling on the various 
safety belts over lap and chest.

we taxi out the main gate of the air base and onto the 
highway. 

apparently, jr does not have his pilot's license yet so we 
are just going to taxi all the way to columbus which is 
about 50 miles away.  the jet is a little large for the 
roadway, but he keeps off the main interstate, using access 
roads that parallel it.  whenever there is a break in 
traffic, which is often on the side road, he can open up 
the engine and we move very fast.  sometimes up to 200 
miles per hour while still on the ground.  in this way, the 
trip to columbus slips by very quickly.  i must keep my eye 
open for police cars as they would stop us for going so 
fast, but we manage to evade detection.

finally we arrive at our destination.  jr parks the jet in 
a nearby parking lot and we go into the house which is just 
down the street on a residential block.

inside the house there are quite a few people already 
assembled.  there are many folding chairs set up and most 
of them are taken.  the host comes up and notices that jr 
is wearing his flight suit which has a lot of technical 
gadgets on it and wide dark pants which flare at the sides 
like an equestrian costume.

"you came in the F191?"  our host asks.

"yes, it just outside.  you want to see it?"  he responds 
and the two of them leave by the door we came in.  i am 
left alone with a bunch of unfamiliar people and little 
idea of what is going to happen.  i sit to wait.

soon the hostess comes over to me.  "we do not wear rank 
and insignia here."  she says, indicating my civil air 
patrol uniform.

"i was just at another meeting and did not have time to 
change."  i tell her.  "i as comfortable in uniform."

"well could you remove the rank and shoulder boards?"  so i 
unpin the colonel diamonds from my collar and unsnap the 
shoulder boards.  i think it looks a little weird with just 
the black snap buttons above my selves.  some people are a 
somewhat uncomfortable with my rank since i was appointed 
to it when i was wing commander rather earning it in the 
usual way.

it is time to begin the evening activities.  everyone gets 
up and forms two long lines around the walls of the rooms.  
then we all start walking very slowly so we tour the entire 
building and introduce ourselves to various people we meet 
in another line moving in the opposite direction.  every 
now and then, someone is selected for show and tell, 
demonstrating some talent or curious object they have 
brought.

"what did you bring?"  the person behind me whispers.

"some frozen strawberries."  i tell him.  "you want to try 
some?"

when he says yes, i get out of line the next time we are in 
the kitchen.  i pull open the top freezer section in order 
to get the strawberries.  each one is frozen in its own 
plastic section, but first i put a small frozen crepe in 
the microwave for a minute to warm it up, then put one 
strawberry on it and nuke it for another minute.  when it 
is done, i give the hot pastry to the other person for him 
to eat. 
several other people from the lines say they want one too, 
so i prepare a few more.

it has been a long time since i have seen jr and i am 
worried that he left and forgot to take me home.  in the 
corner of one room i see that my shoulder boards and rank 
insignia are still were i left them, so i get them before 
they get lost.  

i go outside and see that some children have gathered near 
the garage. 
jr is there with a large plastic model of the F191.  he 
explaining the various features of the aircraft to them.  
next to him is a model of recent military tank with a 
uniformed driver talking to some other children.  next to 
him is a helicopter with its pilot and finally another 
airplane, a painted naval airplane rather like a gunship.  
it is not nearly as sleek as the F191.

=( awake at 09:09.  when i was a teenager i was a cadet in 
the civil air patrol and did wear military uniforms like 
the summer khakis in this dream.  i was promoted to colonel 
for a year when i was a wing commander in ohio.  jr arthur 
is someone i know from down here in pensacola.  he worked 
with me in computer science and we were in a training 
project for the navy security group for about ten years.  i 
have not seen him in several years since the project ended, 
but i did notice him in his bagpiper costume on a recent 
pledge drive for the local PBS station.  i believe he had 
been a pilot in the navy but he was retired for many years 
when i knew him.  i doubt that there is an F191 in the air 
force, but it looked rather folded and flat like stealth 
aircraft.  it was painted mostly white with some panels a 
green color. my last couple dreams have had strawberries in 
them.  i have some out in the garden but the berries keep 
getting eaten by something.  i have tried to put a 
scarecrow statue of an owl near them, but they still keep 
disappearing. 
i suppose there must be some significance in the peaceful 
use of fighter aircraft as just basic transportation on 
common highways yet there was some concern for avoiding 
police detection.  needing to strip off my rank to be 
sociable is a form of humiliation that seemed more 
reasonable at the time than it does now.  it seems that i 
can still do technologic interesting things, but need to 
keep a low profile in doing them.  )=


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stankuli@etherways.com
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 ===    you can't give it, can't even buy it,
 | |    and you just don't get it.  
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Dreaming Writers 
DreamRePlay
(Copyright 2007) David Jenkins, PhD

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ANNOUNCING THE 1-PROBLEM-AT-A-TIME DREAM GROUP  (Berkeley, 
CA)

When you have a waking-life problem that you have attempted 
to resolve over and over but never achieve satisfaction 
it's time to take a look at your dreams. 

I will be starting a new dream group in which you will work 
on solving one particular waking life problem. Although my 
usual approach is to follow the dreams wherever they lead, 
in this group you'll be using your dreams to tell you about 
one specific problem (money, weight-loss, career change, 
sleep improvement etc). The most difficult problems are 
typically much easier to resolve when we look at them from 
a dream perspective. Interested? (The group will include 
local and telephone meetings.) Send me an email: 
davidj@dreamreplay.com. 

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Dreaming Writers
In a previous column, Power Dreams, I looked at some great 
contributions and inventions that happened in dreams. In 
this column, and future ones, I will examine the ways in 
which creative people make use of their dreams. In 
particular I'll look at how novelists and screenwriters, 
the people who spin out stories, use their dreams. 
We acknowledge novelists as creative people but the real 
point, from my perspective is that we are all creative 
people and the creativity of dreams is available to all of 
us. 

This week's column is based on the book, Writers Dreaming 
by San Francisco author Naomi Epel. Naomi interviewed 26 
writers about the connections between their dreams and 
their writing. This week, we'll look at her interview with 
Stephen King, the author of many great horror stories 
including Carrie and Salem's Lot. King is a master of 
taking our worst fears and turning them into stories that 
makes your spine tingle with excitement as well as fear. 
That's a lot like dream work. 

This column looks at two potent ways in which King uses his 
dreams. The first is how he uses a dream to give him a 
critical moment in a story. The second, a more everyday 
kind of use, is how he treats a particular recurring dream 
as a warning signal. 

A Creative Use of a Dream 

_It_ was King's longest novel. The story was already eight 
hundred pages long when he became quite stuck and could not 
think of what to do with one of his characters, Beverly. 

"When I'm working I never know what the end is going to be 
or how things are going to come out. I've got an idea what 
direction I want the story to go in. But with It I got to a 
point where I couldn't see ahead any more. 

"I remember going to bed one night saying, 'I've got to 
have an idea.'" That night he dreamed: 

I was in a junk yard, apparently I was the girl. And there 
were all these discarded refrigerators in this dump. I 
opened one of them and there were these things inside, 
hanging from the various rusty shelves. Then one of them 
opened up these wings, flew out and landed on the back of 
my hand. I realized it had anesthetized my hand and it was 
sucking my blood out. 

"I woke up and I was very frightened. But I was also happy. 
Because then I knew what was going to happen. I just took 
the dream as it was and put it in the book." 

As best as I can tell, you can read it in Chapter 17,The 
Death of Patrick Hockstetter. 

What Stephen has done here is incubated a dream. The dream 
told him, so to speak, how to handle his waking life 
problem. 

When you are stuck in some aspect of your life or need an 
answer that has defied your rational powers, try dreaming 
up a solution (see Sleeping Solutions). 

If you have ever started a project and become bogged down 
when it was nearing the end, check out your dreams. Of 
course you may not be able to use a dream so directly 
(although it is not uncommon), but you will often find 
answers to your needs, your questions and requests in your 
dreams. 

What makes dream work so special is that you get answers 
you would never arrive at if you applied your rational 
thought to the problem. King uses that creative aspect 
successfully. 

A Practical Nightmare 

Regardless of how unpleasant they are, some bad dreams are 
functional. Here is a nightmare and King's explanation of 
how useful it is for him. 


"I don't have a lot of repetitive dreams but I do have an 
anxiety dream:" 
I'm working very hard in a hot little room and I'm aware 
that there's a madwoman in the attic and I have to finish 
my work. I have to get that work done or she's going to 
come and get me. At some point in the dream that door 
always bursts open and this hideous woman jumps out with a 
scalpel. 

"And I wake up." 

"I still have that dream when I'm backed up on my work and 
trying to fill all these ridiculous commitments I've made 
for myself." 

Nightmares can act as warning signals. They remind us, 
sometimes very loudly, that we are neglecting something. 

King' understands that his dream tells him that he's got to 
get the work done. Otherwise he'll get scalped. 

We Are All Creative People 

It might seem that writers have a special relationship to 
dreams because their work is creative, but each of us is 
creative in every dream. Dreams start from a creative 
place. They tell you something in a fresh, different way. 
For all of us, that different view is the key to utilizing 
them. The dream - or the dream work - will indicate to you 
a new way of seeing your waking life. 

Writers Dreaming 

Writers Dreaming is a terrific read for dream aficionados. 
It shows how famous authors (Elmore Leonard, Isabel 
Allende, Art Speigelman, Maya Angelou, and others) 
incorporate dreaming into their work. When you see how 
other people use their dreams, you'll develop ideas about 
how you can use your own. This is the most practical book 
on dreaming that's ever been written (excerpts). 

ANNOUNCEMENT 

Over the coming summer months, I am going to publish this 
column less frequently. Starting in May, you can expect to 
receive Dream of the Week three or four times during the 
summer months. I'll be back to my weekly schedule in 
September. 



ANNOUNCING A NEW DREAM GROUP 
When you have a waking-life problem that you've attempted 
to resolve over and over but never achieve satisfaction 
it's time to take a look at your dreams. 

I will be starting a new dream group in which you will work 
on solving one particular waking-life problem. Although my 
usual approach is to follow the dreams wherever they lead, 
in this group you'll be using your dreams to tell you about 
one specific problem (money, weight-loss, career change, 
sleep improvement etc). The most difficult problems are 
typically much easier to resolve when we look at them from 
a dream perspective. Interested? Send me an email: 
davidj@dreamreplay.com. 

DREAM GROUPS 

The Saturday drop-in group ($20) is from 10 am to noon at 
2315 Prince Street in Berkeley. The nearest major cross 
street is Ashby and Telegraph. Please let me know if you 
are coming. 

SHARE DREAM OF THE WEEK 

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DreamOfTheWeek.com. 


Best wishes 


David Jenkins 
Dream RePlay 

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 Sex and Sustenance in Dreamwork
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“Can basic beliefs dreamers don’t know about coerce them 
into actions against their better judgment?”

 ‘Dream Sight News’ is a site on the Internet. This month 
the editor, Jane Teresa Anderson, offered some dream 
samples furnishing apparent evidence that demonstrate that 
certain basic _beliefs_ dreamers may hold will force them 
to act on them blindly with consequences that often are, in 
the editor’s opinion,  ‘failing to reach the goals the 
dreamers have set themselves’. Such beliefs, she suggests, 
take root in our unconscious mind often in early childhood. 
They often may be the result of traumatic experiences. She 
then continues by saying that when it comes to “_beliefs 
you don’t know about, your actions are automatic, with no 
chance of being vetoed by your wiser judgment_.  In the end 
she asks the question, “_if an unconscious belief is not 
creating the results you want, how *can you change it?*_” 

There are two presumptions and one inaccuracy in what the 
author is saying in all this. I have printed these three 
contentious points that need to be questioned in bold 
letters.  (Astericks)

	I want to begin this questioning with the inaccuracy. 
When you check the word _belief_ in the Collins’ dictionary 
for instance, you find that it is defined in this way: “1. 
a principle, idea, etc., accepted as true or real, esp. 
without positive proof”. I have written the word 
‘_accepted_’ in italics (_ underline_) in order to 
highlight the fact that belief hinges upon this very word. 
It hinges on it because ‘acceptance’ is an indispensable 
prerequisite of a belief. Put another way we can only say 
that we believe something if we are *fully aware of what it 
is about*. It is therefore by definition impossible to have 
“*beliefs you don’t know about*”. That being so, it is not 
making any sense to say, as the editor does, after having 
listed the various dreams, “_Dreams reveal your unconscious 
beliefs_.” Clearly, _‘unconscious beliefs_’ is a 
contradiction in terms.  From this follows that we must 
look for a term in place of ‘_belief_’ that withstands the 
test of the dictionary and at the same time fulfils the 
functions of ‘_unconscious motivation_’. 

	The two presumptions are 1. That our wisdom may be 
greater than the dream’s, and  2. That we can change what 
the editor calls ‘unconscious beliefs’. Since the latter is 
a misnomer it is perhaps best if we begin by proposing a 
more appropriate term for it. We know from what has been 
said so far that by this is meant a motivational force the 
source of which we do not know. Because of the fact that 
the source of it remains hidden from our eyes, psychology 
has adopted the nineteenth century concept of the 
‘Unconscious’. This is wholly unfortunate since it _may_ 
suggest that this realm is utterly devoid of consciousness. 
If that were the case, terms like the ‘unconscious mind’ 
which the editor has adopted, would be sheer nonsense, for 
anything that is devoid of consciousness is simply non-
existent. What psychology means to highlight here is of 
course the fact that there could be something in our 
consciousness of which we are not directly aware because of 
our focus being temporarily directed elsewhere. ‘Unaware’, 
being the operative word in this context, it would be more 
appropriate to speak of ‘incognisance’ than of 
‘unconsciousness’. Thus the term ‘_unconscious belief_’ 
that forces us to act upon it blindly would best be 
replaced by ‘*incognisant promptings*’. 

	Whether or not we can actually change such incognisant 
promptings by means of ‘_dream alchemy_’, as the writer 
suggests, and thus replace them by means of wiser 
motivations than the dream can offer, will be examined in 
course of and subsequent to the discussion of the dreams 
the author has listed for us. Each of those dreams hides 
what she has called an unconscious belief which term I have 
now substituted with _incognisant promptings_.   

Jim’s Dream:

“I was waiting in line to buy a theatre ticket, but people 
kept pushing in front of me. Finally I got to the front, 
but then the ticket office closed and I was directed to 
join a long queue at another counter.”

The author comments by saying that this dream reveals the 
belief of “my needs are less important than other 
people’s.” While this summary has a certain substance to 
it, it does not ring absolutely true in the context of the 
dream. To be fair, she offers some alternative answers we 
might consider in this case such as: “I always seem to be 
kept waiting”; “just when I think I have made it, I’m right 
back to where I started, or worse”; “patience doesn’t pay”; 
“you’ve got to be pushy to get what you want in life”. 

	 The writer also sees this dream as an example of a 
possible belief complex that might make Jim act in a 
similar way in similar situations. That might well be true, 
but since I have no evidence of this I will have to treat 
this dream like the rest on the writer’s list as a one off 
case. Thus I shall confine myself to demonstrating that 
this dream is actually nothing more serious than a classic 
example of a very common occurrence within every 
relationship with a female partner. 

You will wonder where I saw a possible wife or a definite 
female companion in Jim’s life at the time of this dream. 
Dreams speak in symbols which may be translated into 
associative items and parallel plots. In the present case 
we detect an object that is decidedly female. It is the 
ticket office. Another word for ticket office is box 
office. A box is a distinctly feminine object, thus it 
stands for a wife or sexual partner. Under such 
circumstances it is clear that the dreamer, in order to 
attend the show, must first obtain the OK from that very 
‘feminine office’. Without this permission he won’t gain 
entrance to that nocturnal play he covets so much. From the 
dreamer’s strenuous efforts to obtain this permission we 
may infer that he will be equally determined in his waking 
hours to do the very same. The fact that Jim is prepared to 
pay for the entertainment suggests that he may even cajole 
his partner with some kind of present. Maybe even a ticket 
to the theatre. But that does not need to be so. What is 
certain from the word theatre is that he wants to perform 
and have his partner in on the act! Alas, she rejects him. 
Perhaps she even elbows him back into his place. 
Incidentally ‘many people’ in dreams need not manifest as 
many people in waking, but simply as many rebuffs from one 
single person as in this case.  
Jim’s burning libido is not allowing him to give up easily. 
He is given sufficient patience to keep his hopes alive. 
But just as he finally gets to the front, the ticket office 
closes. As I have said, a more telling word would be box 
office. Yet he persists. His hormones are giving him the 
patience, tenacity and humility to join a new queue. Now 
this is interesting. First it is a frontal attack, now he 
tries to come in the back door. How did I extract that? 
Well, queue is a French word for tail or butt. So the dream 
with its image acrobatics manages to put him in a waiting 
queue while at the same time teasing him with his partners 
‘queue’. Oh God, this is such a common bedroom scenario, 
what married partner could miss its meaning? No doubt, the 
last words that poor Jim probably heard on the night that 
followed his dream were: “I’ve got a headache”. But the 
rebuff could have been quite physical, for after all his 
dream tells us that he was being constantly pushed to the 
back. Again, the dream shows its genius for double 
entendres: it says that Jim was being pushed to the back 
when it was really his dearest wish to do the pushing. 
The Freudian interpretation of the dream is of course not 
the only one. There is also a non-sexual meaning and 
manifestation or indeed several of them that are as valid 
as the sexual one. Indeed, from my perspective there are 
invariably no less than two waking outcomes of one single 
dream story: one is sexual while the other is ‘innocent’ as 
Freud used to put it. This innocent version, as I have 
suggested, could actually have had something to do with the 
intention of buying a theatre ticket or more generally, 
going out for the night. But that version or versions would 
not be as compelling as the sexual interpretation when it 
comes to demonstrating the power of incognisant promptings. 
The sexual context makes it far more convincing that there 
is a force at play in a dream scenario that is well outside 
the dreamer’s control. It does so because it is known to 
all sexual beings just how powerful their libido can be. It 
is for this very reason that I shall examine all the other 
dreams that this writer offered for spotting the 
‘unconscious beliefs’ of the dreamers from the sexual point 
of view, although there is always also the non-sexual 
one/s. 

Incidentally it would be of interest to know what Jim’s 
partner had dreamt on that same night or early morning. If 
we had access to such a dream, we could then obtain a truly 
scientific verification or falsification of my 
interpretation. It would then become clear if it was really 
Jim’s belief that made him fail, or if it was nature 
herself. Only by means of such double checks can a dream 
interpretation be regarded as more scientific than 
speculative.

Here I have of course speculated in the same way as Freud 
used to do it. But unlike Freud I am never satisfied to 
leave it at that. I always seek confirmation for my 
interpretation whenever possible. The questions I would ask 
in this case would be: 1. “Does Jim have a wife or sexual 
partner? 2. Did the wife or partner reject Jim’s advances 
on the day that followed the dream? 

Greta’s dream:

“I was climbing a hill and decided I wanted to go back down 
again, but there were too many rocks and precipices below 
where I was standing. I thought that if I walked along one 
of the precipices I would eventually find an easy way down. 
The trouble was, even the precipice path led upwards, so in 
my endeavor to find an easy way back down I just kept 
climbing higher and higher. I ended up feeling stranded 
with no way back down.” 
The writer epitomises this dream by saying it expresses the 
belief that “backing down is not an option”. She has picked 
up the dream’s language nicely for it ends “with no way 
back down”. There obviously wasn’t an option as she writes. 
To me this is a splendid example that shows that we, as the 
ego, want to go in one direction, while some stronger force 
nudges us in another direction; in this case in the direct 
opposite. Put another way it pictures the battle of wills, 
the will of the individual against the will of nature in a 
classic manner. It does this to perfection since this 
inability to surrender to the greater forces always 
engenders a conflict that will leave us, as it did Greta, 
“feeling stranded with no way back”. 

Freud would have seen in this dream a substantial sexual 
conflict; one that leaves a dreamer stranded on the shores 
of social mores and nature’s urges. This very imagery I 
have just used to describe the location of Greta’s conflict 
shows that we readily project our feelings into the outside 
world. The shore I had in mind is the embankment that 
borders on the ocean of libidinous urges which is held in 
check by the ethics of social taboos. The dream, as are 
poetry and everyday metaphor, is doing exactly the same 
thing. While in everyday language the metaphors are often 
veiled to a greater or lesser degree due to the fact that 
they are presented to us in a code of sound, the dream’s 
metaphors loom large because of their energetic pictorial 
imagery. But curiously enough it is this very intensity of 
expression and often realistic imagery that prevents us 
from seeing the metaphor and its meaning just as we miss 
the forest for trees. The important thing in Greta’s case 
is to realise that the dream projects not only her feelings 
into the mountainous landscape, but also some of her own 
anatomy.

This projection of the body and or some of its parts 
follows the same principle that is called “as above so 
below”. Within the framework of the dream this means that 
our physical body is projected into the landscape. Twin 
hills out there for instance may refer to a woman’s 
breasts. In poetry this is an easily recognised ‘device’, 
but when it comes to dreams, most of us miss the meaning. 
We find such poetical projections of erotica even in Songs 
of Solomon which has been modeled on the ancient Sumerian 
poetic cycle of the “Sacred Marriage Rite”. Thus in Solomon 
8:10 the beloved says of herself” “I am a wall, and my 
breasts like towers…” In 7:7 the lover exclaims: “This thy 
structure is like to a palm tree and thy breasts to 
clusters of grapes.”  In 7:3 he says: “Thy two breasts are 
like two young roes that are twins.”  And in 4:12 we get as 
close to dream language as is possible: “A garden enclosed 
is my sister, my spouse, a spring shut up, a fountain 
sealed.” 

We need not call for Dr. Freud to help us see the meaning 
of such projections into the landscape. Water is clearly 
feminine and consequently women dream far more of water 
than men, so far as I can assess; after all they are the 
ocean of life, they carry the amniotic fluid and thus 
whenever the dream wants to feature things feminine, water 
will often play a part. The womb of a woman could well be 
presented as an indoor swimming pool. But that is more 
likely to happen when there is a pregnancy underfoot or an 
impending illness of the womb because such a pool is more a 
reference to the internal reproductive organs than the 
attached exterior anatomy. With respect to the latter an 
outdoor pool is featured, a lake, the ocean or a river, or 
a flood plane. 

I realise that it would be far more appropriate now to deal 
with Nelson’s or Bronwyn’s dreams that feature water very 
strongly than returning to Greta’s mountaineering feat 
which is devoid of water. Indeed, her dream seems to 
contradict what I have just said about women’s dreams. We 
shall see that it does not. The first thing I felt about 
Greta’s dream was that there is no male entity around. 
There is a hill, a path, rocks and precipices, but no forms 
that would suggest the presence of the opposite sex. 
Earlier I have suggested that hills may refer to breasts. 
But there is only one hill in this dream, so it can’t mean 
that. This one hill, if it is a projection of Greta’s 
physique, can only be Mons Veneris. Pathways, streets etc. 
according to Freud are a reference to the anatomy of the 
vulva and so would be the precipices. Looking down a 
precipice in a mountainous region engenders vertigo and 
great anxiety. The higher we climb, the greater will be 
this feeling. There are two kinds of anxiety: unpleasant 
and pleasant. The unpleasant one is shunned as much as 
possible while the pleasant one is sought fervently and 
frequently. Climbing a mountain clearly engenders increased 
anxiety and thus Greta climbing her dream hill becomes a 
perfect analogy to increased ‘anxiety’ of the libidinous 
kind. 
But in Greta’s case things go awry. She gets herself into a 
situation where climbing the hill suddenly becomes 
unacceptable. She wants to return. But the forces of nature 
push her onwards and upwards. But because she isn’t 
comfortable any more with what she had begun probably 
willingly, the journey ends with her feelings of being 
stranded with no chance of redress. 

Stranded is a telling expression. The literal meaning of 
‘strand’ is the shore of the sea, the sands and the rocks. 
It shows that Greta was left high and dry on her hill climb 
and for this reason there are no water features in the 
dream. Her erotic encounter was one of total frustration 
and regret. And indeed backing down in the sense of getting 
out of the dilemma was no option. Nature takes its course 
whether we are with her or against her.

Nelson’s dream:

“I am standing waist deep in water when I notice a shark 
coming towards me. I am so terrified, I freeze. I close my 
eyes and hope it will go away. All is quiet for a while and 
I think the shark has gone, but when I open my eyes I see 
several more sharks lurking in the water.” 

The writer maintains that this dream expresses the belief 
that “ignoring my fears and hoping for the best works for a 
while and then things go from bad to worse.” 
Although this is a man’s dream, water is most prominent in 
it. It is there not because it refers to the dreamer 
himself, but to his sexual partner. I suggest this because 
if a man dreams that he is standing in water it refers to 
him being sexually connected with a woman. But in this case 
there are problems as is all too obvious. The water is not 
warm and inviting, it is not welcoming as the dreamer would 
expect, on the contrary. It houses that almost universal 
icon of terror, the shark. This icon is so widespread and 
common that it must be seen as something of an archetype of 
terror. No doubt it was because of this that “Jaws” was 
such a huge success that it spawned “Jaws II”. Yet the 
story is still about sex, about the man wanting it, but 
unable to obtain it. I can almost guarantee that this man 
had an almighty ‘domestic’ with his partner on the 
dreamday. This domestic may not have revolved around the 
subject of sex explicitly, but most definitely implicitly. 
When the dream says that Nelson shut his eyes hoping the 
shark would go away, it simply means that he did not want 
to acknowledge that he was no longer in friendly waters, 
but that his relationship had deteriorated dangerously. The 
fact that he would possibly be in an ear-shattering row the 
next day –my assertion based on personal experience after 
such a dream- instead of in his partner’s loving arms is 
not something that he would want to contemplate. So he 
closes his eyes hoping that his assessment is wrong. He 
closes his eyes clinging to the hope that things will not 
fall on a heap, but will get back to the way they were at 
the beginning of the relationship. Alas, when he opens his 
eyes to the stark and unadorned reality of things, he sees 
that there is little hope of improvement since the waters 
are swarming with sharks. He could have dealt with one of 
them, but not a whole school. _So the author of Dream Sight 
is quite right in her assessment that things could only go 
from bad to worse_. But the reason for this is not the fact 
that Nelson did not face his fears. Closing his eyes meant 
that he did not want to believe that his sexual 
relationship was on the rocks, or more precisely, that it 
would be devoured by the predators lurking in the waters. 
It meant that once he was courageous enough to look the 
matter in the eyes he would realise at last that forces 
greater than his would swallow up the last vestiges of his 
sexual relationship. Nelson might stay in this relationship 
for years yet, but it will never get back to where it was 
and in the end the sharks will rip the bond of the two 
lovers to shreds. 


Bronwyn’s dream:

“I am standing waist deep in water when I notice a shark 
coming towards me. I am terrified but try to make friends 
with the shark to stop it from biting me. I look into the 
eye and begin to talk and, amazingly, as I do this it 
changes from a shark into a huge playful fish. We end up 
playing swimming games. I am aware it is strong and 
powerful, but it doesn’t frighten me any more.”       
  
The author of Dream Sight extracts from this the belief 
that “when I face my fears I overcome them”. Obviously 
Jim’s and Bronwyn’s dreams have much in common. Interesting 
is that in both cases the dreamers stand in water up to 
their waist. It means that their genitals are immersed in 
water thus demonstrating that here too the dream centres on 
the sexual relationship of a couple. Bronwyn is luckier 
than Jim for her efforts to defuse an obviously explosive 
situation succeed. But was this happy outcome due to the 
fact that Bronwyn ‘faced her fears’? After all Nelson too 
opened his eyes in the end which could be interpreted as 
‘facing his fears’. But that was to no avail. So did 
Bronwyn win over her angry partner by facing her fears or 
because the dream would have gone that way in any case?

	To me the plot suggests the latter. Again I see in the 
opening scenario of ‘the shark coming towards Bronwyn’ a 
sure sign of an impending domestic upheaval. If it wasn’t a 
full-blown row that resulted from this dream on the 
dreamday, there was at least a distinct and unmistakable 
threat of one. But I go for the full-blown thing which, as 
it subsided, had the typical ‘making it up’ in its train. 
The ‘making it up’ was of course full-blown sex as the 
swimming games clearly intimate. The terror of the shark 
ended up becoming a strong and powerful connection with a 
fish which latter in this case firmly manifested as the 
partner’s penis. Fish and fishiness are generally well 
recognised sexual symbols which have been incorporated of 
old in the iconography of myths and religions. Isis for 
instance, the Egyptian goddess as the swallower of Osiris’ 
penis became Abtu, the Great Fish of the Abyss while Kali, 
the Indian goddess changed to the fish-eyed Minaksi after 
swallowing the penis of Siva.      

Karen’s dream:

	“I keep having dreams involving babies aged about one 
year old. The dreams are different, but it always turns out 
that the babies fail to thrive after their first birthday. 
They become weak, or sick, or I lose sight of them.”

The author comments like this: “Things go well for about a 
year, and then they stop thriving”. This is of course 
absolutely correct. Babies are after all personifications 
of projects, of new ventures and of new jobs. We have many 
metaphors that are about babies like ‘I was left holding 
the baby’, or ‘don’t throw the baby out with the bath’ and 
so on. But here again we have to ask if Karen fails because 
it is her belief that things will go awry after one year or 
if there is a factor at work that has nothing to do with 
belief? As you will notice I have not yet committed myself 
to a sexual interpretation. If you were inclined to coerce 
me into such an interpretation I would say it was possibly 
connected with Karen’s inability to hold onto a partner 
with whom she could ‘make a baby’. She said these baby 
dreams were all different. It would be most interesting to 
know in just what way they presented themselves. With that 
sort of knowledge it might be easier to determine whether 
or not this was really about failing relationships or just 
about jobs or both. 
	Be that as it may. I would now like to look at the 
differences and congruencies between author’s view of these 
dreams and my own. There is no doubt that we concur totally 
in regard with the dream’s influence on the waking life. In 
short we agree that the dream is a kind of blueprint of the 
future. But the writer of the article obviously holds to 
the Jungian notion that our dreams are more about 
reconnoitering the future than determining it. This Jungian 
perspective leaves the possibility open for the dreamers to 
change those dreams that threaten the goals they have set 
for themselves. 

	I am surprised that Jung never realised that he often 
said at the end of an unsuccessful treatment of a patient 
things like: ‘The fate depicted by the dream ran its 
course’. (C.G. Jung, “The Practice of Psychotherapy” 142; 
Bollingen Series XX, Pantheon Books, Tran. R.F.C Hull). Had 
he done so he might well have revised his view of the dream 
as a prognostic tool in the medical sense and considered 
that it might be more like a prophetic instrument in the 
Josephian sense. We shall see at the end that Jung had an 
experience that must have made him change his long held 
view ultimately realigning himself to the ancients who saw 
the dream as an unalterable prediction of things to come.

	Before coming to that I would like to quote and 
discuss a line from the author’s article I have already 
cited at the beginning of this review. Here it is: “when it 
comes to _beliefs you don’t know about, your actions are 
automatic, with no chance of being vetoed by your wiser 
judgment_. Apart from the word ‘belief’ this sentence might 
well serve as the perfect basis to my argument that dreams 
cannot be changed for the ‘better’ and that our ‘wiser 
judgment’ is nothing more than self-deception. 

	There is a perfect experiment that will demonstrate 
this. It is called ‘post-hypnotic suggestion’. For this a 
subject is put under deep hypnosis. I would like to point 
out at this very juncture that true deep hypnosis evidences 
REM exactly as does the dream state. Furthermore I want to 
add to this that the brain frequency in the dream state 
produces theta waves of 4-8 cycles per second or 4-8 Hz, 
which is also the case in the state of deep hypnosis. As 
well as that this same frequency is also observed when the 
channels are opened to intuition and past memories, 
including dream memories (!) that are stored in the so 
called subconscious mind. 

	The post-hypnotic experiment is simple. After the 
subject has been put under deep hypnosis he or she is told 
to perform a certain task at a given time after waking up 
from the trance. Added to this command is another, namely 
that he or she will not be able to recall what happened 
during the trance state. 

Thus the hypnotist might suggest to his subject that he was 
to get up off his chair five minutes after waking up from 
the trance, go to the table and grab the vase of flowers on 
it and tip it over the hypnotist. Five minutes precisely 
after waking up the subject that has no memory whatever of 
the given command will get up and do exactly as he was 
told. He will think that his actions were his own idea. 
When asked why he did this strange deed he will find 
several good excuses. Yet they are nothing but 
rationalisations. He might say: “You looked feverish and I 
felt I needed to cool you down.” Just as in the case of our 
dreams that prompt us to act in a certain way although we 
have forgotten them upon waking and thus believe that our 
doings were our own idea, he too will never know that he 
was prompted by an incognisant memory.  

	Clearly the dream is no different to a post hypnotic 
command which we will promptly execute it in much the same 
way as the writer of Dream Sight suggests we as the 
dreamers do with regard to our ‘beliefs we don’t know 
about’. It is plain to see that what she calls ‘beliefs you 
don’t know about’ fits perfectly into the framework of the 
post-hypnotic suggestion given to the subject with the 
added command that the suggestion be forgotten. 

And speaking of forgetting: do we not forget most of our 
dreams? How many minutes, if we are lucky, do we remember 
of two hours or more of dreaming of one night? How can we 
step in and profess that we know better than our dreaming 
when we at best snatch a tiny fragment of countless hours 
of dreaming in course of our life? Is this not like some 
layman remarking on procedures of genetic engineering of 
which he knows no more than that there are test tubes and 
Petri dishes involved? And yes, isn’t it interesting that 
Freud who claimed to have cured the neuroses of many 
patients wrote: “The actions we ascribe to coincidence or 
free choice are in reality subject to unconscious 
mechanisms implying a determinism that rules both the 
conscious and unconscious life absolutely.” (“Freud”, 
Octave Mannoni, Rohwolt’s Monographien, August 1975, 
Rohwolt Taschenbuch Verlag GmbH, page 80-1; my 
translation).

And no less interesting is Jung’s experience of the 
mysterium coniunctionis of which he says: “I can describe 
the experience only as the ecstasy of a non-temporal state 
in which present, past, and future are one. Everything that 
happens in time had been brought together into a concrete 
whole. Nothing was distributed over time; nothing could be 
measured by temporal concepts. The experience might best be 
defined as a state of feeling, but one that can’t be 
produced by imagination. How can I imagine that I exist 
simultaneously the day before yesterday, today, and the day 
after tomorrow? There would be things which would not yet 
have begun, other things which would be indubitably 
present, and others again which would already be finished 
and yet all this would be one.” (C.G. Jung, “Memories, 
Dreams, Reflections”, 327, Collins, the Fontana Library, 
9th Impression, 1971, recorded and edited by Aniela Jaffe, 
translated from the German by Richard and Clara Winston.) 
In view of this Jung must have changed his mind about his 
understanding of the dream as a mere reconnaissance flight 
or medical prognosis with possible input from the dreamer. 
When all exists now, how can we add or subtract anything?
	

POST SCRIPT

Freud was right when he maintained that absolutely every 
conceivable object and situation could be used as a stand-
in for your sexual organs and their encounters. This fact 
alone is massive evidence of the all-pervasiveness of sex. 
But the dream has some favourites as it were, images which 
occur more often than others, and so are more typical. This 
sort of thing is socially conditioned. In a culture where 
there are no stairs people won’t dream of going up stairs, 
and in a society where there are no locks and keys such as 
among the natives of Australia before white man’s arrival, 
there will be no dreams of locks and keys. Locks and keys 
however, as Freud had pointed out one hundred years ago, 
occur very frequently in dreams of people of our own 
culture. With regard to such regular images it pays to take 
notice of their occurrence in your everyday speech. As I 
have said elsewhere, the dream’s metaphors are also our 
waking metaphors. In fact I argue that the metaphors in 
everyday speech are copied from the dream. In view of the 
fact that the dream is a pregram of waking, it could hardly 
be any other way. The difference between waking and dream 
metaphor is merely one of presentation. While one is 
pictographic, or made of dream pictures, the other is 
abstract sound, or acoustic code, spoken language that 
refers to pictorial images in other words. 

You may be aware that it was the sexual interpretation of 
the dream that rent the association and friendship between 
Jung and Freud apart. Freud insisted that the deeper one 
delved into the dream, the clearer it became that its 
bedrock was pure sexuality. Jung on the other hand objected 
saying that it was not justifiable to take the sexual 
language of dreams absolutely concretely. Indeed, Jung 
believed Freud was obsessed with sex, regarding it as 
something numinous. If Jung meant this to be a reproach it 
failed miserably. It failed because ‘_numinous_’ really 
relates to something _divine, to something mysterious, 
arousing religious or spiritual emotions_. And that is 
precisely the way our ancient forebears, the bedrock of 
later generations, saw sex. 

For them it was not something that should be hidden, 
something to be ashamed of and denied, but something to be 
venerated (this word comes from Venus and is related to 
venereal), for after all it forms the basis of our earthly 
existence. Indeed, if it were not for the fact that our 
parents and their parents back to Adam and Eve had sexual 
congress, we would not be here to discuss this. 

*Survival on this planet depends first and foremost on the 
s-twins: sustenance and sex. The formula is simple s + s = 
S: sustenance plus sex equals Survival.* The two S’s are as 
inseparable as Siamese twins. Indeed if one of them should 
die, the other would follow on its heels. This of course 
has to be understood in the larger context of life in 
general where sex is also the fertilisation of plants.

http://tinyurl.com/3b84s6

If dreams are about life, about survival, then an 
interpretation without the sexual facet is nothing short of 
castrating the dream. Only the dual interpretation of the 
dream will yield a precursor of life perpetual. Our ancient 
forebears were only too conscious of this simple fact of 
earthly existence. They realised that the earth by itself 
was like a woman without a husband. If the earth was to be 
_Mother_ Earth and thus capable of bearing and nurturing 
mankind and other life, impregnation was paramount. This 
boon would come from the sky which was also heaven where 
_Father_ God was at home. In their eyes he rode at times in 
the storm clouds, struck the earth with orgasmic lightning 
bolts and impregnated it with gigantic ejaculations. 

In Sumeria, the cradle of human civilisation, rain was not 
just water, but it was also ‘strong water’ which meant 
semen. We need go no further to see what our forebears did 
when they spoke in such terms. It is all too obvious that 
they projected the human condition into their surroundings. 
When they saw in the thunderstorm the same phenomenon as in 
sexual intercourse, they did exactly what the dream does 
every night. Indeed, if we observe the dream attentively, 
we will see that it constantly identifies the human body 
with the body of the earth. For example it will feature 
twin hills when it wants to draw attention to a woman’s 
breasts. A minaret or the steeple of the church will be an 
unmistakable reference to the penis. On the other hand a 
terrestrial cleft, a hole in the ground, a pit, a cracked 
rock will just as surely point to the female genitals. And 
so does the door. And why not? After all the vagina is the 
door into this world for most of us, the exception being 
those lifted from the womb as the babe in Macbeth by 
Caesarean birth.

For the ancients there was no distinction between the 
sacred and the secular, between the physical body and 
spiritual realities. Indeed the body was the icon for 
things spiritual just as the sky was the icon for heaven 
beyond the sky. For our forebears the bodies of their women 
were no less sacred than their temples. Indeed in the Near 
East all temples were modelled on a woman’s reproductive 
system. The lower end of the vagina up to the hymen was the 
template for the porch of the temple. The hall was 
fashioned after the vagina proper, and the uterus provided 
the pattern for the holy of holies, the inner sanctum. (See 
Allegro, ‘The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross’ page 25).

When you reflect on this you suddenly realise that as a 
foetus you developed in the inner sanctum of a living 
temple. At the same time you realise that modelling the 
temple on the vagina does not vulgarise this sacred 
structure, but instead ennobles its fleshly counterpart. 

It is only through the separation of the sexual from the 
sacred that sex becomes something other than a divine 
union, something other than the two aspects of one and the 
same divinity finding reunion in the heavens of ecstasy. 

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From Kurt:

 "When I moved to the present domicile I was approached by 
one of the local ladies who discovered that she was in 
possession of my dream book entitled 'DREAMS, Pre-grams of 
Tomorrow, a Path to a New World Perspective'. Being a 
prolific dreamer she suggested that we run a dream group 
here. This became a reality in May 2003. Ever since then we 
met on the last Sunday of the month. We begin at 10:00 a.m. 
with a cup of coffee and small talk. Then from 10:30 on  to 
midday I give a talk about a particular subject. 

The last one was centered around the [article above]. We 
have lunch on the premises and then, at 1:00 p.m. we have a 
session of interpretation of everyone's dreams. At the 
beginning of these workshops I was the one who did most of 
that, by today all members have become proficient and they 
all offer their view of the dreams to be analysed."  

My book had been published in 1991. I wrote it twenty-one 
years after an experience that shook the foundation of my 
very existence. I could see from then on how dreams would 
translate to waking experiences. One of the most 
fascinating things of that experience was that I saw that 
the Freudian interpretation was as valid as the Jungian 
one. Both interpreters have a point, but where they both 
miss out is in the fact that dreams are of the 4th 
dimension and are able to foresee tomorrow and beyond. In 
my book I show how this fact can be realised by anyone who 
can recall their dreams and has sufficient diligence and 
stamina to follow my instructions and record their dreams 
meticulously and watch for their waking manifestations. 

Kurt Forrer  
forrerk@bigpond.net.au           

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Here is a new collection of dreams with a burning building, 
a meteor striking the earth, an engulfing shroud, and 
floating fish.    Kat Peers-Midland


Dream title: Getting beat up
Dream date: March-April
Dreamer name: Anonymous
Dream: One of my friends she punched me. This was during 
school and for some reason the teacher wasn't there. And 
she started beating me up. But I didn't do anything at all. 
Just blocked myself.
Dream comments: My friend and I are competitive.

Dream title: Getting pushed off
Dream date: March-April
Dreamer name: Anonymous
Dream: One night between March and April I had a dream that 
all of a sudden someone pushed me off a cliff.  
Dream comments: I sat up and gasped as I woke up

Dream title: Fire Rescue
Dream date: 3-23-07
Dreamer name: Wisper
Dream: I was walking down a street in NYC, (it looked like 
a street in Brooklyn) with a co-worker and we were just 
walking and then all of the sudden I heard screaming from 
kids in a Brownstone. When I looked up the building was on 
fire and the kids were yelling out the window "HELP ME". 
The co-worker just looked at me and then I started running 
up the stairs to rescue these kids. When I reached them, I 
could feel the fire, smell the smoke and it was actually 
burning my eyes. I took both children and ran down the 
stairs. When I sat them on the porch I looked into their 
eyes and I recognized them; there were 2 children I knew. 
Then all of the sudden the father of the children came 
running out of the house and came down stairs in his 
underwear sobbing and telling me he was so sorry!!! Then he 
embraced me and did not want to let me go!!! Then I woke 
up. 
Dream comments: When I woke up it was the middle of the 
night and the light of Grandmother moon was on my face. I 
was totally wiped out from this dream. 

Dream title: unknown
Dream date: 4/10/07
Dreamer name: Lilac
Dream: It was a white area with one or two desks and a 
couple of chairs. I was the only person in the room. I have 
a boyfriend, I accidentally dropped his ring and it kept 
rolling and I couldn't catch it. I finally lost it.
Dream comments: none

Dream title: unknown decision
Dream date: 14th April 07
Dreamer name: Astralwolf
Dream: I'm wearing a black monk-like robe, walking in a 
dark forest, where only a few patches of light that shine 
through. The hood is over my head and it shadows the top 
half of my face. As I’m walking, a fallen angel lands in 
front of me. He seems familiar, but I can't recognize him. 
His mouth moves and it looks like he's shouting, but 
nothing comes out of his voice. He points behind me and I 
look around, a black shroud engulfs me then I wake up.
Dream comments: everything seems to be in slow motion, from 
his mouth moving, to the black shroud.

Dream title: Floating Fish
Dream date: recurring dreams in past 5 months
Dreamer name: AD
Dream text: I walk into a room, sometimes at my parent's 
house and sometimes it’s at my home.  It's like the front 
of their tank is let down like a tail gate of a pickup 
truck and either one or all of them are floating in the 
air..just floating!! 
Dream comments: I've had this dream 10 times in the past 5 
months

Dream title: none given
Dream date: none given
Dreamer name: Sal
Dream text: I was at this house and there was a butler.  I 
was putting bouncy balls in a closet in the basement of the 
house; then there was a party at the house basement.  I 
went into the closet and grabbed a bag of weed out of the 
closet and when I turned around there was a bunch of 
parents just staring at me with mean looks on their faces. 
I ran out of the house and behind a shed (with a porch on 
it) and hid the weed. Then later some friends and I were 
smoking cigars on the porch.  
It switched over to me at basketball practice, and my 
friend was smoking a bowl, then he passed it to me.  I hit 
it and then I threw it and said "oh crap man, I’m on 
probation. I’m going to be positive now." He said "no, its 
ok I have smoked on probation too, and I was fine, so 
you'll be ok." 

It switched over again and I was at basketball tryouts. I 
went into the bathroom before tryouts and there was poop 
everywhere and it got on me.  I asked to use my friend’s 
cell phone and when I tried to make a call, the phone 
didn’t work.  So I was going to ask if I could use it 
again, but he walked out of the bathroom too fast.  So I 
walked out of the bathroom and started to walk through the 
gym to get to the locker room.  Then an evil man and woman 
were setting traps to try and kill me (like burn me to 
death and drown me.  Somehow I kept getting away and made 
it to the locker room.  I told my coach that I had shit on 
me and I needed to call my parents to get new clothes.  He 
said "shit happens and no one will care, so just keep on 
playing".   Then BAM - people started dying everywhere; 
blood squirting.  I told my friend that we needed to get 
out of there, so we ran out of the gym, using the back way.  
We ran through the school parking lot, found a car with its 
door open and keys inside, so we stole it.  I started 
driving away, heading for the city.   Then I heard this 
whistle from an unknown source and I didn’t know if it had 
any significance.
The dream then switched over to the evil lady (who set the 
traps) was on a desert road, dancing around a fire, I could 
see a car (like the one we were in) driving off into the 
distance until it disappeared.
Dream comments:  I have no idea what this dream was about.


dream_title: Black Winter
dream_date: 07/15/97
dreamer_name: JK
dream_text: A meteor had struck the earth.  I was searching 
for my dad in the aftermath.  When I finally found him, the 
shockwave from the impact was pushing me away.   He was 
scared out of his mind, and frozen with fear.  I could see 
the reflection of the explosion in his eyes, glowing bright 
red.  In the end I couldn't reach him, and I woke up in a 
cold sweat... 
 
dream_comments: This is a story of a dream I had 10 years 
ago.  My father was a double Vietnam Veteran who died a 
year later on his Birthday.  I wrote a song about that 
dream called 'Black Winter'.  You can listen to it at this 
link, or type my name in 'Google' along with the song 
title.  
http://www.mp3.com.au/track.asp?id=141312 
 
 
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