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Kathleen Meadows, Ph.D. C O N T E N T S ++ Editor's Notes and About this Dreams and Creativity With Kathleen Meadows, Ph.D. ++ Column: Dream Trek: Sociability And The Creative Dream Journal by Linda Lane MagallĒn ++ Article: Dreams Beyond Dreaming by Jean Campbell ++ Article: Dreamy Writing by Kathleen Meadows, Ph.D. ++ Article: Dreams and Creativity in the Electric Theater of Cyberspace by Richard Wilkerson G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S - Peggy Coats NEWS * RESEARCH & REQUESTS * WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES * * DREAM CALENDAR for February-March 1999 * ASD Fall Update! D R E A M S S E C T I O N : dream-flow.v001.n131 through dream-flow.v001.n143 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX AUGUST 18, deadline for submission FOR Next Electric Dreams vol 6(10) Theme: Nightmares and Scary Dreaming XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Editor's Notes : Dreams and Creativity by Kathleen Meadows, Ph.D. +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Dreams and Creativity. Do these two human experiences have anything to do with each other? Is anyone really interested? Well, if the response I received over the past month was any indication, it's a resounding, "Yes!" I want to thank each contributor for their willingness to share their experiences, learning and insights with the world, through this issue of Electric Dreams. One person remarked, "To generalize about the value that my dreams have for me is that they somehow are telling me that something went terribly wrong somewhere in time, and I must try to fix it." I read this statement as both a personal and a collective one, capturing the essence of dreaming and creativity. One of the themes which has continued to surface over the past several years (a hundred or so) is the attraction or repulsion people experience with varying approaches to dreams. There are people who fall in the "interpretive" category (meaning of the dream), the "experiential" category (making changes in one's waking life in response to a dream message), and the "expressive" category (dancing, painting, writing the dream as it was remembered. These various ways of approaching the dream are all exciting, valuable and unique and all of them share a common goal of brining the dream into waking life. One woman sent me her dream, it's interpretation of the image, and how the combination led her to a discovery/invention which was incredibly helpful to herself and her community. I don't think the varying approaches to dreamwork have to be exclusive or singular. Interpretation of a dream image to waking life can result in the most amazing discoveries and there is a lot of material in print to support this statement. I see "Dreams and Creativity" as natural partners. Dreamworkers are here on the planet to share a secret with the world. Original creative expression is present within all of us. It exists in our soul, it is in every cell of our being. The soul/psyche is a part of ourselves dreamworkers are willing to communicate with as often as possible despite the fact that many of those communications are painful to receive. Dreams often comment on the darkness within our souls. Ah, we can't have Eternal Light without seeing first the Eternal Dark. To find the light, we have to be willing to peer into the dark and trust that there is Light in that Darkness. We are never disappointed. Dreamworkers often refer to the term, "synchronicity", a word coined by Jung (or reclaimed is probably more accurate which Jung would be the first to admit), an experience that simultaneously combines inner and outer reality. We are living in a mythic time and dreamworkers are very "keyed" into this myth, as dreamworkers have always been. What about creativity then? What does that have to do with dreams? Creativity is the vehicle that brings the unseen world into the seen world. It is our soul's journey manifested. Creative expression reflects the world back to itself and changes it. Let's review a few examples. Prophesy, music, sculpture, the engine, the telephone, etc, etc. The list is endless. Where has all that creativity brought us? It has brought us to the gateway of sharing our creativity with the world instantly in this medium. Creativity is the bringer of the light that we may all collectively stay in step as we move forward on our evolutionary journey. When we manifest a painting, poem, or story from our dreams, we bypass the ego which is an extraordinary feat in itself. The ego is always busy nattering about what other people will think, whether it's pretty, or interesting or good enough. When we demonstrate something we experienced in a dream we don't have to take credit for it or be embarrassed by it because, we can just say, "Oh, this is something I witnessed in a dream." I want to share a brief personal story that is at the heart of why I jumped at the opportunity to be Guest Editor for this issue. Fifteen years ago I lived in a wondrous city called San Francisco. Wondrous to me, moving from Toronto, Canada. Presently I am living in Kitchener which could very well be San Francisco's opposite if the truth be known. But that's another story. While living in San Francisco I attended M.A. courses at the California Institute of Integral Studies and weekly ran up that hill on Clay St. to the Jungian Institute to see Michael, my therapist. Our work together is still emerging, and always, as magical. At C.I.I.S. I enrolled in two of Angeles Arrien's classes. One was Creativity and the second one, a gift from C.I.I.S., was Transitions. When I began my course on Transitions, I had three months left in San Francisco. This course held special significance for me at that time. I knew I was soon leaving this city and time in my life, and synchronistic experiences were abounding as they are apt to do during times of transition. The day I began my course with Angeles I went to a Hunan Restaurant on the Haight for a quick lunch. I was feeling sad about leaving, having just been refreshed on why I was in San Francisco in the first place! I wondered if I were making the right decision to return to Canada at this time. After lunch I opened my fortune cookie which read, "You need a new environment, Try Canada." Since that's where I was heading, I assumed I was on the right track. I had a series of dreams that winter and spring that stunned me with their intensity. When Angeles Arrien asked students to do a project that would express a feeling of transition, I knew I would do the dream series but I didn't know what form it would take. I wandered around Salvation Army Thrift Stores regularly. Gradually, the form of this dream began to grow within me and I started buying the objects that were in the dreams. I picked up a Barbie Doll and cut her hair the way it was in a dream, I made her the outfit the dream character was wearing, and so it continued until it became a wall hanging on an opened black velvet skirt. The first time I had it all laid out, I stood back and looked at it. I was stunned. I was looking at the unseen world with my waking conscious eyes for the first time in my life! I was incredibly excited. I trotted around with it everywhere, sharing it with everyone in my life then. After my class presentation, several people approached me at break to say (nicely), "That was very dark, Kathleen." That's why I loved showing it to people. It wasn't pretty. It didn't even tell a nice story. It was shockingly powerful and I took no credit for it whatsoever. Over the past several years I have been facilitating dream study groups, lecturing on dreams, teaching six- and ten-week courses at Community Colleges, Community Agencies, senior citizens's residences, and independently. Whenever I have a group spanning a period of weeks I give them "the project". On the last day of class everyone presents their project to the others, and describing the dream the work of art was inspired by. Typically we never have enough time. People bring the most astounding works of art which I have ever been so honoured to see with my waking eye. And instead of anyone else analyzing them (as art critics and dream critics love to do) the dreamer/artist themselves do their own analysis with their presentation. What is that impulse that is expressed through creativity? I believe at the core it is our spirituality. It is a prayer, sung in a song so old we don't even venture to guess its age. It is dreaming dreams of wonder and painting them all over our cave walls. It is singing and dancing the expression of its message. Sometimes we get to hear it and understand it more clearly. But even when we didn't fully understand it, we knew that someday someone somewhere would, and we acted with faith. We still hear it in our dreams, our creativity and our prayers. We glimpse our soul and the unseen world through our dreams, and bring messages back to share in the manifested world... which itself began as a dream. I wish for everyone in the world to have this experience just once. It would transform them and us forever. Dreams and Creativity - articles The frist article by Linda Lane Magellon, "Sociability and the Creative Dream Journal" is a perfect balance of personal experiences and learning and really helpful advice to anyone journalling their dreams. Linda is absolutely right in saying that our dream journals are the perfect forum in which to explore the power of expressing our dreams creatively. As a wise person once said, "The most important book you will ever read about dreams is the one you write yourself." "An excerpt from Jean Campbell's book, _Dreams Beyond Dreaming_ will inspire you to write stories from your dreams. For those of you caught in the snare of a writer's block, or those of you wondering how to find original and fresh material, Jean has some great advice and stories to share." I am including here an article of my own on "Dreamy Writing" which looks at our spiritual voice at the core of creativity and also provides a multitude of plug-in points for anyone interested in dreams and dreaming. In this issue I strongly urge you to read Richard Wilkerson's article, "Dreams and Creativity in the Electric Theatre of Cyberspace". Typical of Richard, he succinctly captures the power of Creativity, Dreaming and massive, instantaneous global communications. Remember to print this article for your files, you'll enjoy it's prophetic message for years to come. Web Site Visits The following are web site recommendations from people who are creating works of art from their dreams. www.fyuocuk.com Click on "Publications" and go to Marie Kazalia's book of poems which she has written from her dreams. www.inspiritrixarts.com Kristena West has begun an online Shamanic Art Gallery which is as beautiful as it is magical. www.jps.net/opposite Jana Hutcheson has built a great site that pulls you into her world of creativity and dreaming. Jana believes that, "..creativity is a wonderful way to stay grounded while experiencing all that energy and gives it a structure and container. It becomes a boat and it is a way to survive a storm. It gives the energy a form to express itself." jbaylis@earthlink.net Janice Baylis has written a couple of books (in particular Sleep on It) which give a historical account of inventions which have been inspired by dreams. She also provides some practical guidelines for using your dreams as a resource for creative expression. Janice welcomes enquiries from interested readers. Recommended Reading in Dreams and Creativity Marie Kazalia provided me with a very helpful recommended reading list on Dreams and Creativity. The first book on the list has been recommended to me by several people - I think it's time to get a copy! Writer's Dreaming by Naomi Epel Dreams & Inward Journeys by Marjorie Ford Kerouac's Book of Dreams My Education a Book of Dreams by W.S. Burrough Stuff of Sleep & Dreams by Leon Edel I would also highly recommend The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron Kathleen Meadows, Ph.D. +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Dream Airing: News, Notes and Events +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Dream Editor Needed! Electric Dreams is seeking a dream editor. What's that? Someone who will take all the dreams and comments that come into our community over the month and format and organize them for our publication. This is volunteer, public service position. - Contact Richard Wilkerson, rcwilk@dreamgate.com and tell me why are interested and how many month/issues you can commit to helping out! Thanks, Richard /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Many thanks to Kat, our cover artist for Electric Dreams 6(9) September. Be sure to download a cover! http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-covers Visit the Art Gallery of Kat Eiswald http://home.pacbell.net/davekat ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////// Changing Woman Retreat- Rose Mountain, New Mexico Ione with Heloise Gold August 22-27,1999 SUMMER DREAM CELEBRATION: Kingston NY in Ione's Garden August 15 3-5 PM Followed by Freedom Celebration for Beverly 5-7 PM Pot Luck by Ione -Forthcoming September 1999 The Dream Sack is waiting for your dreams! http://www.deeplistening.org/ione ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Changing Woman Retreat- Rose Mountain, New Mexico Ione with Heloise Gold August 22-27,1999 SUMMER DREAM CELEBRATION: Kingston NY in Ione's Garden August 15 3-5 PM Followed by Freedom Celebration for Beverly 5-7 PM Pot Luck by Ione -Forthcoming September 1999 The Dream Sack is waiting for your dreams! http://www.deeplistening.org/ione ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// If you have Quicktime installed on a strong computer you can visit Epic Dewfall's Quicktime VR Moonlight Art Gallery. It is a virtual demontration of what my lucid dreams inspired paintings will look like framed and shown many years from now when I'm old and have a real world show. http://www.storm.ca/~lucid/qtvrtour.shtml I currently have 119 paintings but I am only showing 36 of them in this virtual display. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From Harry Bosma: With some pride I can announce you that the new version of the Alchera Suite has been released. The Alchera Suite 3 offers a lot of flexibility to structure your journal entries to your own needs. It also adds a page for daytime entries. Printing options have been improved and email capability has been integrated. If you want to take a closer look at the new features, I suggest you visit the Mythwell.com site. From its main page you can both visit the online Alchera Tour and go to the page showing screen pictures of new features: http://mythwell.com Alternatively you can also immediately download the demo, though you really should take a look at the website if you want to get an indication of features. The demo: http://mythwell.com/download/alch3_eval.exe To start downloading, (double)click on the above line, that should do the trick in modern email software. I suggest you download it to your desktop if possible. After the file has been fully downloaded you can install the Alchera Suite by (double)clicking on the downloaded file. As always, the demo is a limited version, especially in that it only accepts eight dreams. Thank you for your time. Have a good weekend! Harry Dream journaling software: http://mythwell.com ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Coming next month, the REAL story behind Electric Dreams and how we got the name! ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// forward from Stan Krippner: >One very useful book, often overlooked, is Scott Hughes' INNER LIGHT: YOUR >FANTASIES AND DREAMS, 1993. Sanbro Press, Box 3555, Littleton, CO 80161-3555. Yes, THAT Littleton! Note from RCW: Scott now has the FULL book online! Be sure to stop by http://IdeaPyramid.com/ =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= DREAM TREK By Linda Lane MagallĒn Sociability And The Creative Dream Journal =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= I've never, ever used one of those neat, bound, blank books as a dream journal. Never have, never would, and I'll tell you why. I'm a creative dreamer. And I'm a sociable dreamer. Have been since the beginning of my involvement in dream research. Sociable creativity is the prime influence on how I keep my dream journals. Here, in the outside of life, above the surface of existence, I share dreams and dream for, about and with fellow dreamers. We often send each another letters or e-mail and attachments...which can generate or translate into the traditional paper text. But we might also send drawings, postcards, photos and notecard affirmations; in fact, whatever greases the interactive dream wheel. Whether they come over the Internet or via snail mail, there's no way, Jos‚, all that can fit into a bound notebook. So I use binders to collect the papers and plastic sheet protectors to gather odds and ends. In the private underside of life, I write letters to my dreaming self and dream characters. I go into a lucid dream, introduce myself and start a dialogue. I listen to what my dream characters say and note the most intriguing or inspiring conversation in a special journal. I draw my dream characters and create poetry of their lives. I use even more binders. When the linking begins, I find repeating themes and places and dream characters. My fellow dreamers and I compare dream reports with an eye for similarities between one another's dream or waking life. We discover synchronicities and psychic events. We dream of one another's dream characters. The binders overflow into file folders. Once, I asked my dreaming self the incubation question, "What do you want to do?" No, me, you. It wasn't long until a nonlucid dream bubbled up from out of the depths of the sea of unconscious. The response was clearer than any other I'd received. My dreaming self stated that she wanted "to teach people how to dream big." Given the opportunity and support, she is quite adept at producing social, psychic and mutual dreams. My dreaming self is highly interested in that wide screen movie from the communal underground called The Big Dream. So I asked myself, how can I gift my dreams to my fellow dreamers in a way that they will most easily connect the dots of the Big DreamTime Picture? When a partner asks, "Have you ever had a dream like mine?" or "What were you dreaming about in mid May?" how could I easily place my hands on that information? Obviously, I needed a Table of Contents for my binders. Nothing so bogs down the reciprocal pace as having to thumb through years of journals without a clue to light your way to that dream you can't find. And nothing so defeats the interactive process as sharing a dream that was scratched in pencil at 3:00 in the morning in a journal whose thick binding won't let you Xerox it for love nor money. Clearly, I needed legible copy. Now, I'll admit that handwriting better matches my flow of consciousness and I'd rather record the dream curled up under the covers with a legal pad balanced on my knees. Large margins provide space for notes and doodles. I underline or highlight correlating elements in the dream. In some cases, I might return several months after the initial recording to connect my dream with a waking event. But even in the beginning, when I shared dreams with others, I used a typewriter. Thank goodness for word processors and e-mail. What may be just peachy for us as we ruminate in private, must be reevaluated when we move into communal waters. Whether we share and compare for scientific, artistic, practical or esoteric reasons, we need a type of dream journal that supports such efforts. It really doesn't take all that much to create such a journal. Right after you finish recording your dream, you know the main symbols and action. Fine. Simply bring your pen back up to the top of the page and write them down. Voila! You've got a TITLE. Then, turn your head and look at the calendar that you have tacked to your bedroom wall. Boom! You've got the DATE. That night, take your eyes off the TV commercial, grab your sheet of paper and place it in your binder (if need be, invest in a 3-hole punch). Then, once a month, during a dull TV new report, grab another sheet of paper, list the dates and titles, and place the list in the front of your binder. Pow! You've got a TABLE OF CONTENTS. Then, if you want, and only if you have the time, convert your nocturnal scribbling into computer format. (I have so many dreams recorded, it would take forever to type them up. In a case like mine, Cynthia Pearson Turich, of the *Dream Journalist* web site, suggests keeping just a Table of Contents database.) When it comes to dream journaling, my dreaming self and I invite you to think partnership, to think connection and to Dream Big. Creatively, of course. =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Dreams Beyond Dreaming by Jean Campbell =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= The following material is excerpted from Chapter Six: _Dreams and the Creative Self _ Thanks to Jean Campbell for permission to reprint. THE EXPERIENCES OF FAMOUS PEOPLE It is interesting and revealing to notice the number of well-known creative artists who have openly discussed their use of the dream state and other altered states of consciousness to enhance and explore their creative work. Probably the best known literary products of the dream state are Samuel Taylor Coleridge's famous poem, Kubla Kahn, written in 1798, and the ever popular Frankenstein, the story of the first animated synthetic man, written by Mary Shelly. Both grew directly from the dream state. Coleridge who, in somewhat desperate straits at the time, fell asleep in a chair over Purchas's Pilgrimage at the lines, "Here the Kahn Kubla commanded a palace to be built, and a stately garden thereunto; And thus ten miles of fertile ground were enclosed within a wall," straightway dreamed not only the scene, but the lines to the poem itself. As he recounts in an edition of the poem published in 1816, he awoke and began to write. Partway through the writing, a knock came at the door. It was a bill collector; and by the time this unfortunate reminder of Coleridge's plight had disappeared, frustratingly, so had the remainder of his poem. Mary Shelley, who in the company of her equally famous husband Percy Shelley, Lord Byron, and others had been reading aloud a collection of German ghost stories, became part of a plan, suggested by Lord Byron, that they all write ghost stories of their own. (Interestingly enough, none of the others in the group wrote stories which were particularly noteworthy, though Byron's unfinished attempt, published in 1819, is thought to be the source of inspiration for another thriller, Bram Stoker's Dracula). According to Mary Shelley's journal of April 1817, after listening to a long conversation between Byron and Shelley on the speculation that, "Perhaps a corpse would be reanimated," she retired to her bed well after midnight where, stimulated by the evening's conversation, she could not sleep. "My imagination, unbidden, possessed and guided me, gifting the successive images that arose in my mind with a vividness far beyond the usual bounds of reverie," and thereupon came the vision of Frankenstein. Guided by the idea that what frightened her would frighten other people, and encouraged by her husband to expand the tale from its original few pages, she finished the book by the end of the next year. Some of the best known authors of that genre of literature known as the children's story, those books which we read as children and live to read again as adults and read to our own children, have also been familiar friends with the dream world: C.S. Lewis, Lewis Carroll, Robert Louis Stevenson, J.R.R. Tolkien, to name just a few. Robert Louis Stevenson recounts in his "Chapter on Dreams" in the volume of essays Across the Plains that often he was aided in the dream state by what he calls "the Little People"or "Brownies." In time of need, Steven said, when he was stuck with a plot or didn't know how the story would come out, these "Little People" would help him out, often by telling him a story piecemeal in the dream state so that he himself would not know the outcome. After worrying for several days, Steven says, he once dreamed three scenes of Dr. Jekyll which became central to one of his most famous works, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. J.R.R. Tolkien, the eminently popular author of The Hobbit and a famous ring-cycle trilogy The Lord of the Rings, felt so strongly about the connections and the distinctions between the fairy tales he made so popular and dreams or work resulting from dreams, that he commented in his essay "On Fairy-Stories," published in The Tolkien Reader that "I would also exclude (as a fairy-story) any story that uses the machinery of Dream, the dreaming of actual human sleep, to explain the apparent occurrence of its marvels. At the least, even if the reported dream was in other respects in itself a fairy-story, I would condemn the whole as gravely defective: like a good picture in a disfiguring frame. It is true that Dream is not unconnected with Faerie. In dreams strange powers of the mind may be unlocked. In some of them a man may for a space wield the power Faerie, that power which even as it conceives the story, causes it to take living form and colour before the eyes. A real dream may indeed sometimes be a fairy-story of almost elvish ease and skill--while it is being dreamed. But if a waking writer tells you that a tale is only a thing imagined in his sleep, he cheats deliberately the primal desire at the heart of Faerie: the realization, independent of the conceiving mind, of imagined wonder." Tolkien goes on to say in the same essay that: "The tale itself may, of course, be so good that one cannot ignore the frame. Or it may be successful and amusing as a dream story. So are Lewis Carroll's "Alice" stories, with their dream-frame and dream-transitions. For this (and other reasons) they are not fairy-stories." It is far from the purpose of this book to make such esoteric distinctions as the one Tolkien draws between the fairy-story and the dream-story, but it must be seen that the dream state has earned sufficient recognition from a large number of artists that it cannot be denied its place either as an impetus or a result of artistic work. It is interesting to note that the author of another ring-cycle, and one with which Tolkien claims his little tale of Frodo and Bilbo Baggins has no connection, Richard Wagner, also dreamed. Wagner spoke often of the blissful dream state into which he fell while composing, and wrote in a letter to a friend that the opening to his Das Rheingold came to him while he lay half- asleep on a sofa in a hotel in Spezia. Tolkien's ring story, which came at the outbreak of World War II, depicts the triumph of valor and humility over the forces of darkness. Wagner's famous work was, in many ways, the clarion call for the German master race. Another famous German, Nobel Prize-winning author Herman Hesse, also recognized the importance of dreams throughout his long writing career. Demain, the most popular of his early works (which also bespoke the outbreak of World War II), carries a dreamlike quality throughout, and the author's pacifist and anti-Nazi sentiments are portrayed in the book's central figure, Sinclair. Probably one of the most important dream scenes in all of literature is portrayed in Hesse's novel Steppenwolf when, looking for his anima, Hermine, at the Masked Ball, Harry Haller enters into a somnambulistic world in which he sees the sign reading: "TONIGHT AT THE MAGIC THEATRE. FOR MAD MEN ONLY. PRICE OF ADMITTANCE YOUR MIND. NOT FOR EVERYBODY...." Hesse spent several months in therapy with Carl Jung, an event which not only dramatically altered the course of his writing career, but was forever to impress upon him the importance of the dream world and the world of metaphysics. Certainly, however, the world of dreams has not claimed only those artists with as strongly developed a sense of the mystical as Hesse, Stevenson and Tolkien. One of America's most down-to-earth and practical, as well as representatively popular authors, the beloved Mark Twain, also gave credence to the inspiration of dreams, and with good reason: he was often the dreamer of precognitive dreams. One of these came true in a tragic way, as told by Samuel Clemens to his official biographer, Albert Bigelow Paine. One night Clemens, who was then a junior pilot on the Mississippi River steamboat Pennsylvania, dreamed about his younger brother Henry, of whom he was very fond. In 1858 Sam had been able to secure for Henry a position as clerk on the Pennsylvania, and the two had great times together. On the night of the dream, the Pennsylvania tied up at St. Louis. Sam spent the night with his sister Pamela who lived in that city. Clemens reported that in the dream he found himself in the sitting room of his sister's house. Resting on two chairs was a metal coffin. Looking inside, Clemens found the body of his brother Henry with a bouquet of white flowers, a crimson rose in its center, lying on his chest. When Clemens awoke the next morning, the dream as is often the case, seemed so real that he believed it to be true. He thought he would go downstairs and take one last look at his brother's face, but then, changing his mind, went out for a walk. It was not until Twain reached the middle of the block that he realized he had been dreaming. He ran back to the house in a state of joy, told his sister about the dream and then seemingly forgot about it. In the meantime there was friction on the boat and Sam left his job to go aboard another steamer, the Lacey. Henry remained on the Pennsylvania as a clerk. Clemens remembered that the night before the Pennsylvania started up river, the first time they were apart, he gave his brother some advice about what to do in case of a river accident. Two days later, the Lacey touched in at the port of Greenville, Mississippi, only to hear from the wharf, "The Pennsylvania is blown up just below Memphis at Ship Island. One hundred and fifty lives lost!" Although it was hoped that Henry Clemens would recover from the burns he sustained in the fire, he died six days after the explosion in an improvised hospital in Memphis. Most of the victims of the disaster were laid out in plain pinewood coffins; but for Henry, whose handsome features had particularly attracted the attention of the Memphis ladies, a collection had been taken up to purchase a metal coffin. When Clemens walked into the room, everything was as it had been in his dream with the exception of one detail. As Sam Clemens stood looking at his brother's body, an elderly woman walked into the room carrying a bouquet of white flowers at the center of which was one crimson rose. She laid it on Henry's breast. TEACHING WRITING THROUGH DREAMS Fortunately for all of us, the creative process does not end with the very famous, but can be equally helpful to the struggling artist or the ordinary individual who wants to explore creativity, which is a gift to all of us. When I began teaching writing classes at a Virginia Beach high school in 1973, I had no real idea of developing my own techniques for teaching writing. What I did know was that I enjoyed teaching writing more than anything else, because it seemed to me to be one of the few places in which the public school system made allowance for natural creativity. What happened the day I walked into the first high school writing class was a surprise even to me. I gave the assignment which I had intended as a loosening-up technique, something geared to teach the fact that true creativity comes from within: "Write a dream," I said, "a dream you've had recently, or one you remember from your childhood. Write an interpretation of the dream and then write a short story from it." It was as if I'd said the magic word. When I said the word dream, a dozen bored faces came alive. "You know how to interpret dreams?" one girl said. "What does it mean when you sleepwalk?" another asked. "What does it mean when you dream you were someplace and your friend dreams he was the same place and you both remember it?" The class began an adventure into the exploration of the unconscious mind that intrigued one group of students after another for the three years I taught in Virginia public schools and continues, for some of them, even now. It produced that year the second-place award-winning short story in the state student writing competition, and two years later, both the first-place short story and first and third place poems in the same contest. What happened? It is my belief that something in the magic of the class unleashed the creativity of some extraordinary and even very ordinary students. It started, naturally, from my own interest in writing. No subject, I believe, can be taught effectively by someone who performs the act of teaching as rote exercise, without enjoyment of the subject itself. And I had loved writing from the time I could first hold a pencil. Yet an interest in writing was certainly not the only thing that sparked the first class or the classes after it. I had been teaching writing off and on since the first teaching job I took the year after I graduated from college. Quite probably my maturing understanding of people and their individual problems played a part, since I was more willing to help students learn to let the words flow freely from their minds to the paper without having to judge them. Yet there was something else. Drawn almost unwillingly from that first class session into subject areas that I knew from past experience could "get me in trouble" in the ordinary teaching world, I began very cautiously to explore the depths of a knowledge for which these young people did not even have a vocabulary, but which they surely possessed. I moved very cautiously at first, already concerned with the disapproving look I had received from the vice-principal when I told her I was involved with an organization which studied psychics, yet feeling pushed by the questions my students began bringing me daily about their dreams. They even began bringing their friends around between classes for lessons in how to interpret their dream symbols. I pushed caution aside and devoted one class exclusively to understanding how to interpret dream symbology, pointing out to them how writers down through the ages have drawn on the same universal symbols to develop allegory and fiction which has struck chords deep in our souls. The dream teaching spilled over into my regular English classes at the request of students there, making the teaching of fiction and poetry more of a challenge and less of a chore. One day early in the fall, one of the writing class students, a pale, shy girl named Christie who was living through the breakup of her parents' marriage, came into the classroom early as I was hurrying to correct some papers. "God spoke to me for the third time last night, she said confidentially as she walked up to my desk. Trying not to look too surprised, I asked in the same manner, "Oh, what happened?" She proceeded to report a dream in which she found herself atop a large cross. "On the first day, there was nothing," she said, nothing, just gray. On the second day there was a huge storm, thunder and lightning and huge waves. On the third day, the sun came out and God spoke to me. He said, 'You have done good."' From her hushed tones it was obvious to see that she had had what one might call a mystical experience. Life had been tough for this girl. From what was apparently a strong Christian upbringing she had lived through having her mother walk away, the remarriage of her father to a woman whose morals she could not condone, and having to care for a fairly large group of younger brothers and sisters, step-brothers, and step-sisters. I hesitated to ask her what God had said to her the other two times He talked to her, but said, "Why don't you write about it?" as the rest of the class was coming in. She wrote a poem of great beauty and maturity which I wish to this day I had kept since she dropped out of school soon after that and I lost contact with her. Christie was not the only one whose writing seemed to grow as the members of this class were allowed to explore their thoughts and abilities. In an earlier chapter, I told the story of Susan, the cheerleader whose grandmother had died. In the five years since her grandmother's death, the experience had obviously run like an undercurrent in this girl's life, unheeded by her parents or any of the others around her. It was to her grandmother that Susan often took her concerns under the guise of dreams, yet obviously the question nagged at her as to whether this was a "sane" thing to do. When her question about whether any of the others ever dreamed about anyone who had died was received by her peers not with scorn but with sympathy and interest, she obviously took comfort from it. Asked to write a story about her experiences, she produced a rather magical little children's tale about a little girl whose grandmother kept an eye on her even though death had separated them. Once again, here was a young person who made rather ordinary grades, who did not come to class with any particular writing ability, but had taken it because it was not a science class and fit into her busy senior schedule. The amount of creativity in the story was attested to by the warm response it received from other students. Some of the stories they wrote had an obvious science fiction quality as they began to explore their own experiences with time. The boy who asked, "What does it mean when you and your friend both dream you are at the same place at the same time and you both remember it?" had had a personal experience with non-linear time which led him to explore the subject even further. After some of the class members had experienced lucid dreaming (which they accomplished with a rapidity even I found alarming after knowing adults who had spent months with no success) one of the girls announced to the class a problem which has puzzled philosophers for centuries. "If David is at home and I call him," she said, "he exists, but sometimes if David is at home and I don't call him, he doesn't exist." Egged on by this outrageous statement, the class (including David) gave her argument after argument while I listened with growing amusement. Finally, in what appeared to be anger, she got up, walked out and slammed the door behind her. I always tried to give my class as much freedom as possible without disrupting anything in the rest of the school, so I let her go, thinking it would be good to have a cooling-off period. We went on with a discussion of other matters until almost the end of the period. Attention shifted and everyone, including myself, forgot about this girl and her exit. About one minute before the bell rang for class change, the door opened again. We all looked up from our discussion. There stood our recalcitrant class member with a mischievous grin on her face. Dramatically she paused in the doorway. "See, I didn't exist, did I?" she announced to a round of laughter and applause. If a tree falls in the forest without anyone to see or hear it, has it really fallen? What teacher has not been delighted when a student comes up with a fresh-faced discovery unaware that textbooks have discussed it for years. The question of time was not so easily dismissed, however, by a few of this group. One boy, Steve, had dreamed repeatedly as a child about lying in the bottom of a boat watching the bank go by on either side. Though he lived near the water all his life, he had no conscious recall of an experience to match this one until he was much older. In the first "write a dream" experience, I encouraged him to explore this dream, extending the travel in his imagination until the boat reached its destination. By the time he finished this exploration, I was confronted by a student who insisted that the child in the boat was not Steve as he knew himself today, but another boy, Joshua, who lived in frontier America and was escaping from the Indians. Was there, he asked me, really such a thing as reincarnation? How can we argue with someone's experience? I find that I can argue all I want that something did not happen or that the facts were really different, but people's perceptions seldom change. I told him what I knew about reincarnation and led him to some books on the subject, feeling that at any moment I might get expelled for teaching inflammatory subjects. (Even though, while teaching my American Literature classes, I found it very hard to teach Transcendentalism without approaching the question of reincarnation, which was already known to some.) The adventure for Steve did not end there. A serious student of any subject which interested him, he began to ask questions about symbolism, about yoga, about meditation. One day he came to class asking whether anyone ever heard voices. Asleep in his room for an after-school nap, he said, he heard the telephone ring and had tried to answer it but no one was there. This event recurred. Then going back to sleep, he heard someone calling his name. He thought it was his younger brother, but going downstairs, he discovered that he had been alone in the house and that his little brother, who was just coming in the door from school, had not called him. Not long after this incident, he came to me before class and said in an urgent tone, "I really have to talk to you." I invited him to stay after class a few minutes since I had a free period. The story which unfolded would have made anyone a little nervous. On a class field trip that weekend, Steve said, he had been riding on a bus crowded with other students and, since he hadn't had much sleep, he decided to try to meditate and clear his mind. Almost immediately, he said, he found himself swimming in the ocean (in fact he was a strong swimmer and this was an oceanography field trip) talking, or being talked to, by a porpoise who called himself Thonar. The porpoise explained why, as an intelligence, porpoises had left the land and many other things. "If I told this to anybody," steve said (telling it to me), "they'd think I was nuts!" Well, I am sorry to say he was probably right. His experiences of extraordinary phenomena had by that time so transcended the experiences of his contemporaries that had he explained them even to a school counselor, he might have been carefully examined an persuaded to drop his delusions. However, he did not seem to be attempting to use his experience to compensate for any other lack in his live so I agreed to keep what he told me confidential. In the meantime, he went on to write a prize-winning short story incorporating some of what he had learned in his dreams. I must add that, in the case of some of the other students who came to me, I was not so confident of their ability to handle their dreams without help. As a teacher, I could only go so far in taking time to help individuals understand their problems, and when one of the girls in writing class brought a friend who had been consistently dreaming vampire dreams, both where he was pursued by vampires and where he himself became a vampire, I recommended that he contact one of the best counselors I knew for an intensive examination of his attitude toward himself and others. When school was almost over that year, some of the students began to say that they didn't want the class to end, and asked me to go on teaching them over the summer. I laughed at the compliment, thinking it was a piece of nostalgic madness that sometimes gets into students at the end of a school year. And finally, to humor them, agreed that if they would appear at my house at a particular day and time, I'd teach a summer writing class. I expected they would forget about it when school was over. Instead, ten students showed up at the appointed time. Others sent word that they were sorry they couldn't make it, but summer jobs were keeping them away. Feeling surprised and honored, I began then seriously to think about developing techniques for teaching writing which extended beyond the methods by which I myself had been taught. I was not too surprised when I returned to school the next fall to find another group of writing students as interesting and as interested as the first. The thing that did surprise me was when those students, and again the students from the year following, began to become friends with one another and to form a chain of friendship which extended far beyond graduation and even into the present, and that each year, with new additions, the group would ask for the class to go on into the summers. It is my opinion that there was no magic used here, no special charisma or anything of the sort. These people came to know each other and respect each other through the language of dream--perhaps the deepest, most honest language we have. And they liked it, found it meeting a need unmet elsewhere in their world, and wanted it to continue. At present these former students are college students, young business people, housewives, working mothers, and a variety of other things which cover the occupational field. The thing which they have in common, and which binds them to one another, is their continuing interest in dreams and creativity. One last amusing incident, and one whose creativity cannot be denied, is that of Joe Fredd. Joe Fredd was the creation of one of the students as the result of the first dream assignment, obviously an alter ego. In the assignment, which asked the students to allow their characters to interact, Joe Fredd interacted with the characters of many of the students in the class - an alternately awkward and suave ladies' man. As the class went on, Joe Fredd took on a life of his own. Through his mischievous creators, he obtained a library card, signed hall passes, took exams, and traveled to other classes. he became known to half the senior class (and puzzled one or two of their teachers who received papers or exams from this invisible student). Today, several years later, Joe Fredd still exists and occasionally, via letter or word-of- mouth I hear of his exploits. He entered the army, traveled to foreign lands. I hope he never dies. Jean Campbell is the host of the ASD Bulletin Board and you can visit with her online every day at http://www.asdreams.org/subidxdiscussionsbboard.htm or E-mail JCCampb@aol.com =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Dreamy Writing by Kathleen Meadows, Ph.D. =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= This article is an exploration of the relationship between dreamwork and creative expression, with a focus on writing as the medium. The struggle is with my temptation to be evangelical about this subject because I believe so strongly in the dreaming mind's ability to inspire, guide and enliven written art. Robert Louis Stevenson counts among the many writers who have written stories directly inspired from their dream material. A good place to begin is attempting to answer the question, "What are dreams?" Dreams are images, typically presented in story form about our emotions, if we are sighted in our waking lives. If we are blind, they will be less visual, and more sensation, but hold the same fascination and tell us about ourselves in the same way that they do for us sighted folks. Dreams are always about something we don't know consciously and they are always about ourselves. Our dreaming mind takes several waking life experiences and feeling reactions, and condenses them to one image. This is one of the reasons why they must be decoded to be understood. Dreams are fresh material, unfettered by social expectation and convention. They are a gift from nature, original, complex, unaffected, real, and unencumbered with artifice. They are emotionally intense, and honest which is why using them for story inspiration will give your writing that special ring of truth, infused with passion. Dreams come naturally to us as well-constructed stories. They have a beginning, a middle and a conclusion. This is why we often ask dream explorers to discuss the "theme," or "plot" of their dreams and give them a "title." Identifying and naming these aspects of the dream can help tremendously in translating its message. Furthermore, dreams follow a series. Part I might appear to us tonight and Part II might not appear for a week, or a year or even a decade but inevitably there will be a follow-up. We know a dream is a part of a series when similar characters, plots and settings appear again. Dreams demonstrate for us both sides of an issue. Some believe dreams are helpful for problem-solving which is true, but not in a way you might imagine. They don't suggest, "You should . . . ," rather they suggest, "This might happen if you choose this, and this might happen if you do that." You must decode this information and decide consciously for yourself (the bane and glory of free will!) which path you will ultimately take. That is another reason why they are so fresh. They don't condemn, moralize, or pontificate! They simply present you with the story. The other story of your life. Writers are routinely admonished to write what they know which has always struck me as wise advice. The dreaming mind will offer you more experiences, more travel, and more exotic adventures than you are ever likely to have in your waking life. In our waking lives we only have so much energy, resources and choices available to us at any given time but in our dreaming mind these are unlimited. There is a process which is referred to as "incubation" which is simply asking your dream self for a dream on a specific topic. Before going to sleep put a recording device by your bedside and ask for a dream about something that's bothering you or for an experience you would like to have. You might have to ask three or four evenings in a row, but I guarantee you will have the dream you need by the end of a week. In my experience most writers are introverts by nature. (It's difficult for extroverts to write extensively because they are energized by being around other people. Time alone for an extrovert can be a depressing experience.) Developing depth in your characters however can be a challenge if you have limited your access to a variety of people. Your dreams will provide you with an amazing array of characters to further develop in your stories. The characters in our dreams are typically complex, unpredictable and unique. They certainly are a contrast to stereotypes which can be a temptation when you have developed an interesting and complex plot. Characterization development is a powerful strength in an aspiring writer's work. Dream material is universal. Your dream will be as helpful for you as it is to me. Our problems, worries and aspirations are not so very different. When you write from a dream, you will be appealing to a vast audience which is not only relevant for now but for many years to come. Your writing will possess collective appeal, contain universal messages, yet be unique and timeless. Your stories will be rich, deep and expressive. And most importantly it will be written by someone who is unafraid to know themselves. As we honour dream material in our waking lives, we become more whole human beings. We learn to accept those parts of ourselves that we may regard as unsavory, or very grand. We open ourselves to a rich and uncontrollable universe within ourselves that is the generator of not only our greatest and lowest thoughts, but profoundly our most creative. We learn to walk the path of the initiated, the brave and the receptive. Dream exploration takes us to a realm of the individuated. We begin to understand our calling, our purpose and we burn with the desire to bring our passion into the world. It is one of the paths to enlightenment. It is within you and available every night for you to explore. You don't have to go to a special place to find it, you don't need a guru to teach you the way, and no book on the subject will be as valuable as the one you write yourself. Your own dream journal. To begin I suggest you begin by writing down your dreams. Title them, identify the theme and the plot, describe the characters and pay attention to the action and reactions of your characters. For a really beneficial exploration, invite a group of kindred spirits to bring their dreams to a dream group meeting every couple of weeks. Share your dreams, explore them together, and encourage each other to write about your dream experiences. It will change your life in ways you can barely imagine. Kathleen Meadows, Ph.D. Biography Kathleen lives in Kitchener, Ontario Canada with her life partner. She trains and supervises in a Mentorship Program for the Boards of Education. Kathleen is a feminist, and strong believer in community economic development through her involvement in Barterworks. She is the co-author of the DreamQuest cards with Gloria Nye, and a private therapist working with artists who draw from their dreams to deepen their self-awareness and develop their creative expression. Kathleen and Gloria have just completed another piece of work which is a dream symbol dictionary, and quite different in content and structure from most of the dictionaries presently available on the market. She can be reached at jane@golden.net, or dream-quest.com. =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Dreams and Creativity in the Electric Theater of Cyberspace. Richard Wilkerson =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Rising from a DreamTime before time began, dreams have provided an underlying matrix of creative inspiration to individuals and cultures for hundreds of thousands of years. These nocturnal inspirations have been revived in the modern dream movement. The new techniques and practices have led to an outpouring of dream inspired drawing, painting,, sculpture, collage, poetry, stories, myths, tales, theater, drama and other presentations. As soon as culture went online in the late 20th Century, it began presenting these dream inspired forms on the global digital theater. The Global Digital Dream Theater A new paradigm, a new consciousness, is needed to understand & create the world about to open in the 21st Century. Archetypal psychologist Stephen Aizenstat recently noted that all our attempts to create a rational world based on even the simplest notions cooperation and ecology have failed. What we may need to turn things around. Instead of imposing our values on the World, we may need to listen to what the World itself is saying, what the World itself wants. He suggested at the 1999 Association for the Study of Dreams Conference in Santa Cruz that Dream Movement may be in just the right position to teach people how to listen. People who attend to dreams know how to create something new and unexpected from a power that lies beyond the individual ego and the individual will. In pushing interpretation to its limit [imposing one expression upon a content] creative dreamers have also learned to not- interpret [allow oneself to become the content of the dream's expression]. This dance of creative cooperation allows a play to unfold that is often unexpected and novel, dramatic and significant to more than just the single dreamer. As this dance moves onto a global stage, new kinds of theater emerge and the classical boundaries of stage, theater, gallery, art museum, journal, book, person, village, community and place change. We now have place without location. Anywhere is everywhere. Distance collapses, and horizons merge. Dreams speak, write, dance and form part of the new digital matrix. Dream Inspired Art Galleries Dream inspired artists have taken to the Internet creating traditional galleries with pictures on the wall, and interactive pictures that talk about themselves and allow chat with the artist. Dreams and dreamer artists like feedback and engaging others. E- mail responses can be imbedded directly into an art piece, so that viewers who wish to write to the artists can do so immediately. Others have set up message boards that allow the viewer to post a public message or join an ongoing written discussion of the art. The Granny Gallery, a project by Nancy Richter Brzeski, includes several works that focus on the evolving relationship between dream, artist and family members. The evolution of Brzeski's work can be seen in a brief glance on her index page, or in more depth in larger graphic reproductions. The viewing public enter into something between a catalog and a gallery. Brzeski includes a dream about her Hungarian grandmother, Dora Graubart, who inspired the many "Granny" pieces. Also included are biographies and notes about the art work & the creation process. A feeling of ancient rootedness occurs, offering a sense of deep insight into how the creative process emerges and grows from our dreams. [http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/granny/] Alissa Goldring's Dream, Life, Art Gallery uses a revelation- across-time approach. With each new month a new gallery room focusing on a specific piece is opened. Each art piece is connected to a specific dream or dream series, as well as a life lesson. Each month a new article and graphic appear. Does the dream art illustrates the text, or is the text part of the graphicness of the presentation? Like a meditation on life itself, one can sit at this site, gain decades of perspective and at the same time achieve a quiet mind. [http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/goldring] Epic Dewfall travels at night in his lucid dreams and searches for pictures on the dream walls. With some concentration he will remember a few of these upon awakening and then reproduces them on paper. The pictures then get scanned (digitally copied) and put in his online gallery. The background gallery itself is clearly an art piece as well. The World Wide Web gives Dewfall ability to work more closely with the staging environment and to change the set more often with less expense than a traditional gallery. Dewfall also happens to be a poet as well as graphic artist, and the text is mixed in as hypertext, meaning that a viewer may jump to a page with an entire poem. Dewfall's pictures and poems bring about an intuition that what is material shimmers in the foreground of a larger story, one that can be accessed best during a dream. [http://www.storm.ca/~lucid/] The Dream Wave Theatre (not the same as Slow Wave) mixes text and graphics in a unique way to explore mythological archetypal mysteries of dreams. There is no attempt to categorically exhaust the possibilities, but rather a deep respect for those dreamy things that neither text nor graphics can circumscribe, but only celebrate in wonder. In a traditional gallery this is usually done by having a labyrinth of rooms. On the Web this is accomplished by turning graphics into buttons that, once selected, reveal a whole new area. On Dream Wave these new areas are meant to lead one more deeply into a particular theme. [http://www.dreamwv.com/uworld/theatre/index.html] A creative approach taken by Jesse Reklaw has been to illustrate contributors' dreams in comic form and then add them to one of the galleries. The Slow Wave gallery includes weekly additions, a short dream strip each week plus weeks past. The Concave Up Gallery is more involved and connected with the offline publication of the dream comic Concave Up. With this approach, Reklaw has developed an interactive cyber-site that both feeds the Net and draws sustenance as well. [http://www.nonDairy.com/slow/wave.cgi] Linton and Becky Hutchinson's DreamLynx is one of the original feedback dream sites. They also accept dreams and distribute them to various artists for illustration. Those Illustrations are then put on the Web with the dreams. The dreamer remains anonymous, when they wish to, and the dream may also be put on a message board/bulletin board for others to comment. Joint projects between DreamLynx and Electric Dreams have expanded the simple post-and- comment into dream groups much like the ones researched by John Herbert. The dreamer may, during the course of the group, produce more art which can then be returned again to start the process over. [http://licensure.com/.dream/] Dream galleries will be expanding and becoming more popular as people realize the low development and maintenance cost, the potential audience and the exciting new possibilities in multimedia presentations. And of course, these galleries are on Web sites that host a wide variety of dream sharing information, education, contacts and links to other sites. [http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources Select "Online" and "Dream Art"] The Digital Oracle One morning I woke up and had the following dream: "I was with a dying friend. I was sitting by his bedside and he told me a dream [in the dream]. He said "I was in a room like a museum, except you could play with the art. I found some masks in there and realized I had donated them many years ago. I tried a few on and was concerned about how they might fit. " I asked my friend in the dream what he wanted to do with the dream. He said "I want to dance the dream." This notion of dancing the dream struck a deep cord in me and I began a several year journey exploring dreams and their connection with drama. This eventually led me to Greece, where I visited the dream temples of Apollo. So much dreamwork is Apollonian, seeing from a distance. Even the techniques of dream incubation, of dreaming the proper dream to get in to see the oracle, were around seeing and vision. I found that part of the year, Apollo's dancing brother Dionysos was the ruler of the temple. At Delphi, we traced this switich back into the distant past. Apparently, before the Greeks were at Delphi (and before Apollo slew the dragon to take the temple as his own) there was an earlier culture. In this culture they had an oracle who lived high in the mountains of Parnasos, above Apollo's temple at Delphi. With the help of locals in the area we found the cave in these hills where the oracle was said to have been taken from. She was imprisoned at Delphi, surrounded by priests who interpreted her visions. The Greeks also gave names to the other deities found in her cave, which included among them one called Pan. Interestingly, Pan is said to have taught Apollo dream interpretation. The cave seemed to be the stronghold of a Dionysian like cult, with maenads that roamed the hills in groups and centered around the oracular grotto [korikian cave, Corician in Latin]. Apparently, dreams were first danced. Some of these became myths. But the Greeks separated the dance and turned it into a theater, splitting audience and participant. The mythic dream dances could then be controlled, but eventually lost all their juice and power. This is always a struggle in dreamwork as well. I found that my own dreamwork began to take on more drama, more enactment and less abstract interpretation. But it wasn't until the next year and I went online that the real theater for dreams I was looking for began to emerge. For more on Delphi and Dreams, see my Songs of the Oracle site at http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/oracle Start your own digital dream theater One of the aspects of shifting from the abstract interpretation of dreams to more theatrical interpretations is the loosening of the demand for the dream to be what I want it to be. That is, it no longer has to represent what I want it to. The dream-as- presentation takes on a life of its own. This is no where so true as the Internet. Dream images hyperlink to worlds without end. Dream texts are returned from the cybersphere with notes. Dream poetry floats in Cyberspace and inspires and provokes thought and action. Dream pictures shift through the electrosphere and mix, one moment a gallery, the next a cover for an e-zine, the next a downloaded poster for a protest march on the other side of the world. Soon you will be able to type in your dream and get a quick movie in return. The first movies will be awful, but funny and amuse us. Later they will be profound and amaze us. The flow of the dream will no longer be crushed by the morning sun. Some places to get started: Build a web site and post your dream with a drawing or photograph. If you don't like building sites, ask a dream web site owner to post your dream and picture. You will be amazed how many are willing to do this. Send a dream into the Cybersphere. Post it on alt.philosophy or alt.dreams or alt.dreams.lucid Share your dream as a valid piece of literature to an online e- zine or literary magazine. Join the ASD DreamArts ezine and submit a dream inspired art piece. Take a trip to Kinkos or your local copy center. Learn how to scan your art onto a disk in jpg or gif format so you can upload them into Cyberspace. Find a magazine or e-zine online that doesn't have cover art. Offer them a graphic. Get familiar with a graphics program. Some are free! Download Paint Shop Pro from www.tucows.com and illustrate your dream! Take a dream graphic and "hotspot" it related sites. Different parts of the picture will send the traveler to different parts of the world, or perhaps another graphic that more deeply expresses that part of the dream. Build a dream dungeon online! Take a picture of a dream inspired piece of dream sculpture. Take pictures from many sides and build a web site that allows the visitor to explore all the sides. Perhaps some of the side lead to journal entries about the dream as well. Start a dream series, post a dream a week and allow others to connect their own dreams. Record your dream and add ambient background. Turn this recording into a .wav file <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S September 1999 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats, pcoats@dreamtree.com. Visit Global Dreaming News online at http://www.dreamtree.com/News/global.htm. This Month's Features: NEWS - RESEARCH & REQUESTS - WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES - DREAM CALENDAR for February-March 1999 - ASD UPDATE for FALL 1999 _ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< N E W S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< >>> "You Are a Psychic in Your Dreams" Evening lecture with Robert Moss, Friday, September 10, from 7-9 pm, in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. In your dreams, you are a gifted psychic. You dream future events before they happen. You can use your glimpses of the possible future to make better choices and create a better future. Dreaming, you meet spirit guides and journey beyond the body and spacetime. Learn how to develop your natural ability to be your own psychic counselor and bring life-supporting messages through for yourself and others -- in your dreams! For information and reservations, call The Learning Annex: (416) 964-0011. >>> Dreamwork in Santa Cruz Twin Lakes College of the Healing Arts is offering an in-depth training in dreamwork for people who want a professional practice in dreamwork, professionals who want to integrate dreamwork into another practice of the healing or educational arts, and for those who just want to learn more about how to work with their own dreams. Training is oriented towards Jungian based dreamwork, while integrating other cultural and theoretical perspectives. Students will learn a process of working with dreams called Dream Interviewing, a powerful contemporary approach to entering into the rich messages of the dreamscape. Classes will include lectures, experiential dreamwork, group discussions and supervised practice. A Dream Studies Certificate will be awarded upon the successful completion of this program. Begins Sept. 24, 1999, Fridays 9:00 am - 12:00 pm. For more information, contact: Dreamwork Training Program, Twin Lakes College of the Healing Arts, 1210 Brommer St., Santa Cruz, CA 95062, (831) 476-2152 >>> Dream Workshop with Jean Raffa The Jung Society of Atlanta will host author Dr. Jean Raffa at its fall retreat, Friday through Sunday, October l5-l7. Dr. Raffa, author of "Dream Theatres of the Soul" will conduct a workshop titled "Dreamwork" at the Simpsonwood Conference Center in Norcross Georgia. Non-members are welcome. For more information, call (404) 634-6350, or contact the web site http://www.jungindex.net/society/raffa.html. >>> "Dreaming True: How to Dream the Future and Create Better Futures" A one-day workshop with Robert Moss, Saturday, Sept. 18, 1999, in Saratoga, NY and Saturday, Sept. 25, 1999, in Chicago, Illinois. We are all psychic in our dreams. In dreams, when our left-brain inhibitions are down, our natural intuitive radar comes richly alive and we track forward through time, scouting out challenges and opportunities that lie in the future. The futures we perceive in dreams are possible futures; by learning to recognize and work with our precognitive dream messages, we can change the future for the better, for the benefit of ourselves and others. In this high-energy workshop, we'll learn how to dream the old-fashioned way the shaman's way and how to bring the energy and insight of dreams into everyday life. You'll be able to work in depth with your own experiences and to seek guidance on personal issues. Learn how your dreams can help you stay well by showing you how to take care of body and soul and follow the natural path of your energy. Learn to embark on conscious dream journeys to step outside time, contact sources of insight and healing, and become the active co-creator of your future. If you can dream it, you can do it. Learn how to create your dream house, your dream romance, your dream job and then make it come true! For more information on the New York workshop, call Stillpoint: (518) 587-4967. For more information on the Chicago workshop, contact Transitions Learning Center (800) 979-READ or (312) 951-7323; fax (312) 951-5595. >>> New Version of Alchera Journalling Software The final release of the Alchera Suite 3.0 is here. Take a tour. For an impression if what is new features, take a look at the screenshots page. http://mythwell.com/ >>>Dream Group for Artists and Writers Conflicts between doing creative work and making a living, fear and inertia around the business part of art, and creative blocks are just a few of the issues that artists and writers are often faced with. Dreams are a powerful resource for gaining insight, shifting perspectives, moving through limiting belief systems and igniting the creative spark. Learn how to tap into the wisdom of your dreams, in a supportive dream group facilitated by Gina Pearlin. For more information and registration, call Gina at (831) 427-2957, or email gpearlin@cruzio.com >>> Dream Work Class Online By Kristina West Dreamwork is the language of the Soul. Every night we are given personal soul gifts- which if listened to-will give direct guidance, offer creative solutions to our life questions and open the doors of opportunity. Develop the skills and learn the tools necessary to begin the adventure of dreaming. Class covers basic dream tools; incubating, recall, journaling, and interpretation. Includes advanced skills of conscious, lucid and shamanic dreaming, and much more. On- line classes are also available--for more information please e-mail to: onlinedreams@inspiritrixarts.com Sept. 16-Dec. 15 Ongoing group- 3 month commitment Thursday Evenings 6:00-9:00pm Cost: $ 135 per month Deposit: $50 http://www.inspiritrixarts.com/dw.html >>>> Shamanic Dreaming Workshop, Circle and Potluck Dinner On Saturday, October 16, from 1-5 pm, this experiential workshop will feature: * a class on Shamanic Dreaming, * shamanic journeying to meet your Dream Spirit Guides; and * a dream sharing circle utilizing shamanic dream interpretation methods in addition to standard psychological techniques. Other topics covered will include Healing Dreams, Shamanic Initiation Dreams, Psychic Dreams, Awakening in Both Worlds (a.k.a. "Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream"), and Dreams and Creativity. Participants will also learn over 30 methods for improving dream recall, how to handle spiritual attack in a dream, and how to deepen your relationship with your dream spiritual guides. Live drumming and ritual are integral parts of this powerful dream circle. Only $30-60 sliding scale. Takes place in Emeryville, CA Limited to 15 dreamers, so call to preregister and save your spot. Call Taylor Kingsley at (510) 653-7293. Followed by a community potluck dinner (optional), 5 p.m. til ?. Our goal is to cocreate an ongoing community of dreamers who honor the sacredness of dreams and support one another in personal and global healing via dreaming. This is the first of many monthly Shamanic Dream Circles, some of which will include all-night community dream circles so we may benefit from the synergistic effect of group dreaming and begin the day Sunday morning with a shamanic dream circle as many indigenous peoples do worldwide. Blessings to you. >>> The History of Dreams with Richard Wilkerson http://www.accesslearning.com/courses/psychology3.html This delightful six weeks class gives you both e-mail essays on the history of dreams and dreaming, as well as interactive labs and online dream groups to teach you ways of exploring and understanding your dreams. From Robert Van de Castle, author of OUR DREAMING MIND, "...It is a GREAT course!" From Roberta Ossana, editor of The Dream Network journal "Extraordinary and thorough coverage of dreaming from Day One and Multiple Perspectives. Truly!" Course includes dream groups on line plus: 1. Introduction and Basic Recall Skills: The Peer-Relations Approach 2. Ancient Dreams: Messages from the Gods 3. Sigmund Freud: The Dreamwork of the Unconscious 4. Carl Gustav Jung: Mythic Dreams and Wholeness 5. Other Pre- 1960's Dream Theories 6. Frederick (Fritz) Perls : Gestalt Dream Techniques. 7. Mindell and Gendlin: The DreamBody 8. From Couch to Culture: Grassroots & Modern Dreamwork Movements 9. Non-Interpretive Dreamwork: Lucid, Mutual, Paranormal & Pro-active Dreaming. 10. Dream Science and Dreamwork: Friends or Foes? 11. Dream Anthropology: How Culture Influences Dreamwork 12. Dreaming In Cyberspace: New Trends in Dream Sharing on the Internet. For the extended Syllabus: http://www.accesslearning.com/courses/dreams/dreamhx_intro.html Class Cost: $29.99 (US) All Major Credit Cards Accepted Registration Online http://www.accesslearning.com/courses/psychology3.html Questions? You can e-mail Richard Wilkerson at rcwilk@dreamgate.com >>> ASD Bulletin Board Announcement As of Monday, August 23, 1999, the ASD Bulletin Board will change format to UltraBoard, allowing several new features like sorting and researching specific threads. Don't be fooled by the changes though. We're still the same, old friendly folks. http://www.asdreams.org Select Discussions, Then follow Bulletin Board. You may have noticed, if you've visited the Board lately, that there's been an upsurge of interesting conversations relating to dreams and other states of consciousness. I'd like to take this opportunity to say thanks to those of you who make the Board such and interesting place, and invite anyone receiving this announcement who hasn't visited for a while, to drop on by. ASD Membership: What would this be without a plug? If you're not a member of ASD, and you like what you see on the ASD website, you might like to become a member. Information about membership is online at the site (asdreams.org). Some of the benefits of membership include the quarterly newsletter *Dream Time* and the ASD Journal, *Dreaming*, both filled with interesting articles, art and information about dream work. Conference: If the online community is a way to meet people, world over, who share an interest in dreams, the annual ASD Membership Conference is a way to encounter the faces behind the screen names (as well as to hear well-known dream experts and attend dynamic workshops). The next conference asd2000 will take place July 4-8 In Washington D.C. You can register now, online. Please, if you have any trouble with the new UltraBoard, let us know. You can post a note on the board or send an email directly to Richard Wilkerson, Webmaster at or to Jean Campbell, Board Host, <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< R E S E A R C H & R E Q U E S T S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>Universal Dreams Survey A look at the dream themes and motifs that all people and cultures have in common. Here's your chance to contribute something valuable to the study of dreams, and learn what your own dreams mean at the same time. Visit the website for a complete description: http://www.patriciagarfield.com/idx_udreams.htm <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< W E B S I T E & O N L I N E U P D A T E S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< Do you know of interesting new websites you'd like to share with others? Or do you have updates to existing pages? Help spread the word by using the Electric Dreams DREAM-LINK page www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/online97.htm. This is really a public projects board and requires that everyone keep up his or her own link URLs and information. Make a point to send changes to the links page to us. >>>New Lucid Dreaming Website http://members.aol.com/aarenka/lucidintro.html Run Erin J. Wamsley , this site contains background and information on lucid dreaming, some of her own personal research, a program for the induction of lucid dreams compiling various techniques, links, documents, and an active message board. >>>The Dream Flow Adds New Members The Dream Flow is an Electric Dreams project to create a circulation of dreams through cooperative sharing between mail lists (listservs, majordomos, eLists). Dreams submitted to Electric Dreams Dream Temple http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple are send to all the lists on the dream-flow. Comments are welcome and can be discussed in private on the individual mail lists, or send back to Electric Dreams at the Dream Temple for publication in Electric Dreams. The Dream Flow would like to welcome several new members this month from the www.onelist.com mail lists group, including dream-flow@lists.best.com DreamingWorld@onelist.com dreamsandvisions@onelist.com dreamz@onelist.com dreamstream@topical.com DreamsRus@onelist.com You can find out more about these dream group eLists by visiting www.onelist.com. To connect *your* list to the dream flow, simple send a note to Richard Wilkerson, at rcwilk@dreamgate.com >>>> The Dreams and Visions Mailing List This is an Internet community dedicated to the sharing and joint exploring of dreams, dream interpretation and dream messages. From Dreams and Visions "If you've ever had a dream that has puzzled or troubled you, you might be suprised to find that the keys to unlocking that dream's meaning may have been yours all along! This list exists to provide a compassionate and thoughtful forum for the examination of all dreams, lucid or sleep state." Join by directly subscription at http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/dreamsandvisions or the HomePage: http://members.xoom.com/WVGargoyle/dreamsvisions.htm >>> Lucidity Institute FTP Site While you may be aware of the vast resources, bulletin boards and research that is available on the Lucidity web site www.lucidity.com, you may not be aware of all the articles available for quick download at the FTP site: ftp://ftp.lucidity.com/ These quick text files include : Nova Dreamer information, the lastest FAQ, the earliest research and more. >>> Ban de lars Bandelars http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Bistro/5250/ Dreams and poetry of young Dutch artist Bandelars. MOVED Sarah Strachen, creator of the Whale Dream Art Gallery has moved: http://www.sitdogsit.com/ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< D R E A M C A L E N D A R September 1999 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< Sept 10-12 in Humboldt, CA Workshop with Jeremy Taylor at Humboldt Unitarian Church. Contact Tracy: 707.839.8689 for more information. Sept 10 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada "You Are a Psychic in Your Dreams" , lecture by Robert Moss. 7:00- 9:00 pm. For information and reservations, call The Learning Annex: (416) 964-0011. Sept 12 in Berkeley, CA "Birds, Creatures with Wings" dream and art workshop led by Ellie Fidler. RSVP (510) 649-1971. Sept 17-19 in Boone, NC Workshop with Jeremy Taylor. Contact: celtway@boone.net or call Kathy Taylor at 415.454.2793 for more information. Sept 17 in Pacifica, CA Concert and Art Exhibit of The Opposites, dream-inspired art and music by Jana Hutcheson. BLACK FOREST CAF, 7 p.m. 220 Paloma Avenue, Pacifica, California 650-355-2730 www.jps.net/opposite Sept 18 in Saratoga, NY "Dreaming True: How to Dream the Future and Create Better Futures", one-day workshop with Robert Moss. For more information, call Stillpoint: (518) 587-4967 Sept 26 in Chicago, IL "Becoming a Dream Shaman" , one-day workshop with Robert Moss. Contact: Transitions Learning Center: (800) 979-READ or (312) 951- 7323; fax (312) 951-5595. **************************************************************** Association for the Study of Dreams: August Update http://www.asdreams.org **************************************************************** For more information, see the ASD "What's New?" page at: http://www.asdreams.org/subidxshownew.htm =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Dreaming 2000 ASD's seventeenth international conference, Dreaming 2000, will take place in Washington, D.C., in July. Make plans now! http://www.asdreams.org/asd-17/index.htm =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Become a Member ASD members contribute to the dream movement as well as research in dreams and education in dreaming. Member benefits also include discounts on regional and international conferences, a quarterly magazine _Dream_Time_, and a peer-reviewed journal _Dreaming_. 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Or, if you are an ASD member, you may place requests for subjects, dreams and other material. http://www.asdreams.org/subidxprojectsresearch.htm =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ _Dreaming_ Articles Available Online Two articles from _Dreaming_ recently have been posted for online access. "Why Study Dreams? A Religious Studies Perspective," by Wendy Doniger and Kelly Bulkeley. 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For the full month's listing, see http://www.mail-archive.com/dream-flow%40lists.best.com/ The Electric Dreams DREAM SECTION includes dreams and comments from the DREAM FLOW, a project to circulate dreams in cyberspace. Many mail lists participate, including dream-flow@lists.best.com DreamingWorld@onelist.com dreamsandvisions@onelist.com dreamz@onelist.com dreamstream@topical.com DreamsRus@onelist.com The Dream Sack : http://www.deeplistening.org/ione If you would like to send in single dreams for the flow, you can leave them at http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple If you have a mail list or would like to contribute dreams and comments on a regular basis, you can subscribe to the dream-flow by sending an E-mail to: TO: dream-flow-request@lists.best.com In the body of the E-mail put only subscribe your-email please substitute your real email address with "your-email" You may get a note back to verify the subscription. Simply hit the return or reply key, change REJECT to ACCEPT in the subject field and send the note back. --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n143.2 --------------- From: Heratheta 4 drms-peace had alin to the right of the place if you had avoided becoming"very' peace had lain to the right of the house if you had avoided becoming "apparently" peace had lain to the right of the area if you had avoided becoming "dreary" peace had lain to the right of the house if you had avoided becoming"similar" spiritual tour drm-peace had lain to the right of the experience if you had avoided becoming"very" more at www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/ --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n143.2 --------------- Dream Title Mr. Witchcraft Mr. Witchcraft by Pelops Date of Dream 8/20 Dream A clown is in the basement of my house. (In reality I never saw this house before in ever lived in one remotely like it.) He is dressed like a banker from the 1930s: jacket, pants with suspenders, button-down shirt. He is middle-aged, his hair is thinning at the top. The only thing that makes him a clown is the white face make-up and red-painted eyes, nose, and mouth. This is not a jolly clown, but rather a staid, no-nonsense middle-aged man who dresses like Babbitt. I come down to the basement and see the clown doing what looks to be light fix-it work in the basement. I say to him, "What are you doing Mr. Witchcraft?" And he replies, "Just holding these power lines." And then he shows me two live, exposed electrical wires he is holding in his hands. Then I notice that the clown, Mr. Witchcraft, had let water from the sink run over the basement floor so that there was an inch of water covering it, and that Mr. Witchcraft was going to throw the wires into the water. This would not only have started a fire, but would have electrocuted us both as we were standing in the water. I knew then that Mr. Witchcraft was crazy. I ran out of the water and up the stairs. Mr. Witchcraft throws the wires into the water which lights the basement stairs on fire. I am at the top of the stairs, pounding on the basement door which will not open. I don't know how I got out of that but I did and for the rest of the dream Mr. Witchcraft, who had become an unstoppable killing machine from right out of a slasher movie, chased me. Comments by Dreamer Scared the hell out of me Permission to Comment yes_share_comments --------------- END dream-flow.v001.n143 --------------- -------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n142 -------------- Dream Title 4 dreams - LEG1999 Date of Dream Aug. 17, 21, and 22 - time unknown Dream #1. (August 17) I was in a very oppressive place. It was ugly, muddy and dank. I was being held captive and was to be killed. In the beginning of the dream, I was laying under a cot in a small room. I knew that guards were walking around outside to prevent me from escaping, although I couldn't see them. The guards reminded me of Nazis and were dangerous. I managed to slip out of the room and building that I was in through a crack in the wall behind the cot. Then, I was COMPLETELY buried in mud under the floor of a building, hiding to prevent being detected by the guard above me. A person snuck into the muddy area where I was hiding and helped me slide out to escape. This person led me to a small wooded area. We began running, carefully, to get far away from the guards, who we knew would follow when they found I was gone. As I went through the woods, I came upon people hiding. They were frightened and cold and their clothing was dirty and torn. I stopped to try to help them, even though I knew it placed me in great danger of being captured. The next thing I knew, I was back in captivity and the entire thing started all over again. (I am not Jewish nor have I ever been in danger of being killed -- that I know of.) #2. (Aug. 21) I was in a house which was apparently a psychiatric setting. I know I was being held there. I had been placed there but I didn't know why. I wasn't frightened, but I didn't want to be there just the same. I wondered around and saw many people on different floors. The house was very large with many levels. I would climb the large staircases from floor to floor and find something dfferent on each. I remember walking up and down the staircases freely and often, when coming down, would be met by an individual who worked there, like a "caretaker for people". On one floor, there was a train track where fairly "sophisticated" people sitting in an area that clean and "fancy". The train approached and some got on. I ddn't know where the train went. On another floor, I met people who seemed to be in dire circumstances. Poor, clothing worn or torn and afraid to do anything for fear of retribution from the people in charge. I remember speaking with someoneone there but do not recall the conversation. I then found myself on the ground floor. I wanted to get out. I knew that leaving was forbidden and that there were "watchers" everywhere to prevent me from leaving. I managed to go through an opening that lead me to a barn-like setting. There were animals, like bulls and other farm animals, in pens. Some of the bulls/cows were roaming free and began to act as if they were going to charge or fight each other. I spoke with a man, who was dressed like a farmer or cowboy, and then went into one of the pens to get away from the potential danger of the bull/cow fighting. The pen lead me to an outside area, but there was no way to leave the house through there. I then found myself in another place, a garden area, and near the large fence that surrounded the entire house. From this place, I was able to slip through an opening and I started down a road. I had to be careful as the "watchers" would see me walking away and come after me. I tried to hide myself in the dark and trees as I walked. I then came upon a run-down house along the road. I entered the house and found other people inside. The people seemed to be somewhat unkept, but not dangerous or in trouble. I wandered through different rooms of this house and in one room found children. It didn't seem to be a bad situation but there was a tenseness about the place and people. While I was outside of the house, someone saw people (like police or some other law enforcement-type) coming down the road. All the people in the house began to scatter to get away and not be caught. I was confused as to what was happening and don't recall what occurred after this. #3 (Aug. 22 -- first dream) I was in an area that was dreary and gloomy. I found myself entering a place that was underground or in a basement. Inside were little defenseless animals and other creatures. There were tiny newborn kittens all clustered together. I tried to help care for these little creatures and kittens. Later, I found myself outside in the dark and dreariness. It was raining and oppressive. I returned to the underground area/basement only to be told that all the creatures and kittens were dead. I held one of the dead little defenseless newborn kittens. I was told "they" had killed them (I don't know who "they" was.) I had the sense that the "they" who had killed all the creatures and kittens were dangerous. # 4. (Aug. 22 -- second dream) I was living in a house, similar to the former home of my grandparents that my husband and I bought when we were married. The kids were also in this dream and were back to being school age. Like the real home we lived in, the house sat on top of a hill where you could see the valley below for miles. I was outside and saw a tornado approaching. I told the kids and my husband who, in the dream, worked at a service station down the hill. I felt the tornado pass over us while I was in the house but there was no damage to the house. I then saw more and more tornadoes, each passing over and around the house. Eventually, I saw a large crack in the house wall and then another crack on the other side of the house. Each time a tornado approached, I sent word to my husband. On one occassion, I went to the service station where my husband worked and the other person there directed me to the back room. Back at the house, I went outside and saw a great many tornadoes forming in the distance, first as black clouds and then the funnels lowered from the clouds and approached over the fields and hills. I was counting them 1, 2, 3, ...37, 48, etc., and they were all coming toward the house at once. There was an overwhelming obsession for me to see these tornadoes approaching and then passing by and around me, the house and the kids. (My ex-husband divorced over 10 years ago and do not keep in contact. My kids are grown. I live alone and 2100 miles from my ex and children.) Comments by Dreamer I feel as if my mind is trying to tell me something or "sort things out". Most all of the dreams I remember are of me being held captive in some way and that I am trying to get away from something. Permission to Comment yes_share_comments Permission Comments Publication of the dreams and comments on these dreams is okay. --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n142.2 --------------- Dream Title Monster Freeze by DH-176 Date of Dream Aug 21, 1999, after midnight. Dream Since sophomore year I have had strange night experiences characterized by the awareness of a malevolent presence in the room with me, and then...the sudden freezing of my body and the inability to voice words or even yell for help. Last night this happened again, and there was a growling next to my face, as if a dog or something else was right next to me. I seemed to have banished it with a quick prayer but the presence only seemed to have retreated to a corner of the room, waiting. However, it left after a time and I went back to sleep. Comments by Dreamer Permission to Comment yes_share_comments --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n142.3 --------------- Dream Title The Spiritual tour Date of Dream 1997 Dream I had this dream a couple of years ago & it has haunted me ever since. I'll try to be brief. It was very REAL and I awoke with the sensation of having actually "experienced" my dream. There were many of us (people/spirits) being taken from place to place. At each "stop" we were shown something very important or enlightning. Somehow in the dream I knew I would not be allowed to "remember" these things, but somehow they would still benefit me on a level I could not fully understand. I found one "stop" particularly profound and asked one of our "guides"(anangel?), telepathically, if I could please remember just this one stop. In the morning I remembered that one place but not what we were shown there. I also remembered going to and from several other stops but not the actual places themselves. It haunts me. I have tried to paint the remembered "stop" twice with little success. Anyone else ever been on a spiritual tour of sorts?? Comments by Dreamer Permission to Comment yes_share_comments --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n142.4 --------------- From: "Jay" > Comments by Dreamer I feel as if my mind is trying to tell me > something or "sort things out". > > Most all of the dreams I remember are of me being held captive in > some way and that I am trying to get away from something. if these were my dreams, i would feel that there is a part of myself which is trying to escape from the dominant part of myself. part of me wants to change, but i'm not quite ready to yet. --------------- END dream-flow.v001.n142 --------------- -------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n141 -------------- --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n141.1 --------------- Dream Title Empty Future, Joshua Date of Dream 8-21-99, 6am Dream After 10 years of marrage, the dream shatters all I hold dear. We start at a public event. It's neither cold, nor hot, it's just there. There's no sound, except for my wife's voice and mine. People are looking at us, but really not paying close attention. Then, from out of the blue there appears a hugh desk, with my office supplies on it. From there it get's darker. Then when the light reappears, we're up in my work office. My wife of 10 years then said she was leaving. This sent me into a personal panic. I began running, from one building to another. Opening doors, going through and closing it behind me. While I was running, people would ask if something was wrong, but through the tears, I could not respond. I really never stopped running until the real phone rang, it was my office saying they had a problem. Comments by Dreamer This was the most real dream I've ever had and really just don't understand the reason other than that the studio was having a problem. --------------- END dream-flow.v001.n141 --------------- -------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n140 -------------- --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n140.1 --------------- From: Victoria Subject: candle circle dream Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:47:30 +1000 I got too busy with daily things this morning to write down my dream but its imagery has stayed with me for the day. Firstly I was trying to visit a former neighbour on whom I once had a crush. He wasn't home and his dog was dead. I walked away from the house and in his yard there was a circle of people in "white/cream choir robes" each with their left hand on the next person's shoulder and each holding a lit, white candle in a gold candlestick with a handle. I was watching them with interest, but couldn't quite hear what they were singing.. if they were quite ready to begin singing. --------------- END dream-flow.v001.n140 --------------- -------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n139 -------------- --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n139.1 --------------- Dream Title Stuck with Autum's car Date of Dream 8/15/99 3AM Dream I borrowed a married lady friend's car - an SUV, then she went to pick her dad up from then airport. Late that night, I drove down a dark, filthy street to the back of her house to return the car. Her garage has 3 cars too big to fit in it, a station wagon,van and another car, sticking out, and the garage door not closed. One of the cars is my cousin's van. I parked her car behind her dad's, outside the garage, locked the doors and went to my cousin's van. But it's wedged in with lumber and debris all around it. I go back to her car, but it's wedged in too behind her other car, with the back of her dad's car blocking it. I walk back and forth looking at both cars and see I can't get either of them out of the garage without waking somebody up - it's late. So I stop a lady in the street and ask how to get home. She points in the right direction, tells me to make a left at 60st and walks away. I walk down the block, and realize it's a long way home, so call a cab from my cell phone. I have hers and my cousin's car keys. Permission Comments All interpretations welcomed. =================================================== --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n139.2 --------------- Dream Title axe Date of Dream 18/8-5:00am Dream Me and my mum were driving in our diamond blue mercades when we turned in to a dead end street andthen these men popped out from behind these cars the three men started to axe our car and smashing the windows and the rest of the car. My mum drove futher up the dead end street and i told her to turn the car and drive away fast but the car couldnt drive fast then one of the men smashed the drivers side of the car and cut my mums tounge off with a smaller axe( the three men had all differnt size axes) and i had to help her drive to the hospital. Comments by Dreamer help me figure out what this dream means Permission to Comment yes_share_comments --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n139.3 --------------- From: Heratheta flight drm- peace had lain to the right of the building if you had avoided becoming familiar. visit drm-peace had lain to the right of the foot of your bed if you had avoided becoming like the figure reaper drm-peace had lain to the right of the street if you had avoided becoming abnormal more at www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/ --------------- END dream-flow.v001.n139 --------------- -------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n138 -------------- --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n138.1 --------------- Dream Title "Flight From Destiny" by BabyBlue38 Date of Dream 8/16/99 8Am Dream In my dream I find myself in a large building with many people, with no idea how I arrived until it was time for my escape. I see a familar *man and I know that I am in danger. This man tells me that I am destined to be apart of his plans. Suddenly I hear birds and people screaming. I see my *Father dying, when I try to help him, I see that he is a stranger. When I reach the parking lot, two people are there to help me, people who know me and I have no memory of, only that I sense they are good people. The two people help me find the *car I arrived in, it is old and has expired plates. I'm at a strange house, I think the two people are there with me when I phone my only sister Darlene to explain that I am stranded with no car, she sounds distant and I ask her if anyone is there with her. A moment later, Darlene is standing in the kitchen in front of me, but before she speaks, I tell her that her eyes are brown and not the true color. I know that there ! ! will be a *struggle and sense the two people with me will *help, my thoughts are that this time the battle may be too great.....I wake up. *Dejavu Comments by Dreamer *These things seemed to have been in another dream in another time. --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n138.2 --------------- Dream Title Visit Date of Dream 17/7/97 Dream I awoke to see a figure at the end of my bed with glasses who threw a black blanket over me then dissapeared slowly fading away. The figure reapeared and laughed whilst staring straight into my eyes, i could not move or shout. I now get reoccuring dreams of dark backgrounds with symbols in ancient writing in which i see up side down. Comments by Dreamer Any comment would be helpful as this dream is making me nervous anxious and edgy Permission to Comment yes_share_comments Permission Comments Any help is greatly apreciated --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n138.3 --------------- Dream Title 'the reaper chase' by the naked drummer Date of Dream last year Dream i remember being stood in a street and seeing this man dressed in a black tracksuit running abnormally fast in my direction and even though he was way away i was really scared. As he ran past people he knocked them over and smashed shop windows and stuff. so even though he could have been after anyone i felt he was after me. i started to run away off the street and was in a graveyard running as fast as possible and suddenly he was chasing me alone and gaining fast. i came to this wire fence of the gardens near my house where there is a gap at the bottom and i dived for the hole as i knew it i got home i'd be safe. but i caught my jacket in the wire fence, turned round and he had a hold of me and as i looked him in the face i saw he had no facial features. then i woke up. the next day i was badly ill and shaking. Comments by Dreamer It sounds really cliche and all the event in it: black tracksuit/chase/graveyard/man with no face all added up to the grim reaper, but more modern and youthful since he was in a tracksuit and was a fast runner. At the time it really freaked me out and it made me act strangely for ages afterwards. i think maybe stress was a factor since it was near exams. but does that explain the presence of death? i heard that death represents change in dreams and i was changing friends at the time, could that be it too? Permission to Comment yes_share_comments Permission Comments i don't mind who knows, i just want the dream interpreted by whoever can help as it's been annoying me for a while now. --------------- END dream-flow.v001.n138 --------------- -------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n137 -------------- --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n137.1 --------------- From: Heratheta table cloth dream-peace had lain to the right of the table if you had avoided becoming "never been used" survey drm-peace had lain to the right of the survey if you had avoided becoming "like" more at www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/ --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n137.2 --------------- Subject: looking for examples of famous dreams Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:59:56 -0700 Dream Dear Dreamers - I am looking for examples of famous dreams. For example - Billy Joel has dreamed of many of his songs before he pens them. I have found many propheic dreams relating to death - i.e.e Amraham Lincolns dream, but am seeking positive examples of dreams by famous people. Can you help? Send replies to the editor of Electric Dreams, Richard Wilkerson at rcwilk@dreamgate.com --------------- END dream-flow.v001.n137 --------------- -------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n136 -------------- --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n136.1 --------------- Dream Title CONFRONTATION/DENISE0708 Date of Dream 8-9-99@400AM Dream HI I AM ENGAGED AND HAD A DREAM OF MY FUTURE? DINING ROOM WITH MY NEVER USED CHINA LAID OUT BY A WOMAN NAMED KATHARINE (STRANGER) WHO WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH MY FIANCE AND THERE WAS A RED ROSE ON BOTH PLATES. I THREW UP THE TABLECLOTH AND EVERYTHING FELL ON THE FLOOR..END OF DREAM Comments by Dreamer Permission to Comment yes_share_comments --------------- END dream-flow.v001.n136 -------------- -------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n135 -------------- -------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n135.1 --------------- From: Heratheta house drm-peace had lain to the right of the house if you had avoided becoming 'big' more at www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/ --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n135.2 --------------- From: IONE RE: Counting from 1 to 100 [see dream-flow.v001.n133 " Counting from 1 to 100"] Yes, it sounds like a good dream joke- but at the same time feels like you're getting more and more aware- and that your techniques are working. Also interesting are the purification themes of bathing. I love the concept of the queue of bathers- as if they themselves were your counting- and a love the "morning gown"- it makes me think somehow of the cloak of sleep and dreams - upon removal the dream warrior awakens - ( in the dream?) Keep up the good work. Ione >--------------- END dream-flow.v001.n132 --------------- --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n135.3 --------------- Dream Title Finding my Studio by Donna Date of Dream reaccuring Dream I have this reaccuring dream - at times it is frantic. I am in a large building - almost like a museum - but abandoned (like where you would find a studio for an artist). I can't find my spot. Either it's been taken - someone is there already, or someone is nearby that I don't want to see ever. I keep searching, the dream is all about searching, cubby holes getting to that spot whichever way I can - it is like a movie - I crawl through things to try to get to the magical room that is mine & I never get there. I have been having this dream for over a year at least - and it is the one dream I remember most. Comments by Dreamer I am a painter by gift from God - I have three small children 4,3,2yrs old and haven't "regularly" in years. Permission to Comment yes_share_comments --------------- END dream-flow.v001.n135 --------------- -------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n134 -------------- --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n134.2 --------------- Dream Title The Third Floor - Leelu Date of Dream Aug 2 1999 - 5am Dream I cannot count the number of times I have had this same dream. I am in a big old house. It is on a point of land, on the water. I cannot see the outside of the house in detail. I always start in the hallway inside the front door. There is a winding staircase in cream and dark polished wood. The livingroom area is sunken and you have to go down 3 steps to it. On the main level I always discover 3 bathrooms no one else knows about. All done in different colours, yellow, green and blue. The yellow and green bathrooms are in dis-repair. The second floor is open and appears to sleep many people. In my dream there is a door inside the closet with stairs that lead to an upper floor. Once there I am always overwhelmed by it's beauty. The walls are either green or blue silk with heavy velvet draperies adorning the openings of the bedrooms. The drapes are always open inviting me in. The first bedroom at first appears quite bright but when you enter you have to ! ! turn an old hurricane lamp on to see in it. It then appears quite dingy and old and smells musty. I don't feel comfortable here and leave quikly. I only have ever glanced into the other 2 bedrooms which are quite beautiful with hanging chandaliers and expensive furniture and bedding. There are lots of chandeliers on the ceilings in the hallway. Each time I seem to be explaining the place to someone and then I pry off a piece of square plaster off the wall, some type of plaque, and inside there is money...tons of it...confederate money! How do I know it's confederate? I have no idea since I am Canadian! At this point, everything is beginning to be covered by a green mist, which gets so dense that I can hardly make out the money in my hand or identify the people I am with. A man's outline is visible. He is tall, thin and walking towards me. This is how it ends each time. Comments by Dreamer I would really like to know what this dream means. Each time I have it, I always tell my husband. He doesn't have any answers but isn't concerned. When I have the dream, I know this house...I've been here before..but not in this life I can be sure. Permission to Comment yes_share_comments Permission Comments Please write me back if you can. Many thanks --------------- END dream-flow.v001.n134 --------------- -------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n133 -------------- --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n133.2 --------------- From: Heratheta wave drm-peace had lain to the right of the air if you had avoided becoming extreme finding dream_peace had lain to the right of the building if you had avoided becoming "almost" more at www.dreamgaie.com./dream/dubetz/ --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n133.3 --------------- From: Heratheta 1 to 100 drm-peace had lain to the right of the bath if you had avoided becoming "until' more at www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/ --------------- END dream-flow.v001.n133 --------------- Dream Title Counting from 1 to 100 Counting from 1 to 100 Counting from 1 to 100 Counting from 1 to 100 Date of Dream August 2.1999 Dream Tonight a dreamed that I am counting from 1 to 100. I am doing this until I am going to a bath. In every step I count 1,2 100. And in the end I appeared to the bath. There is a queue of people waiting to come in. There I see my old friend that I haven't seen from about 15 years. I undress my morning gown which looks like soldiers dress. My friend, that I saw in a queue of people says to me to bring the morning gown with me and not leave it here but I don't want to take it with me. Comments by Dreamer The thing that makes to me the strongest impression is the counting. It is because I know that it is one technique which I know from the book of Stephen LaBerge 'Exploring The World of Lucid Dreaming'. That is a technique to get into a lucid dream, but in my dream I count and don't aware that am dreaming. In another dream I dreamed that I read books of awaring dreaming but at the same time I DON'T AWARE that I am dreaming. What is this a joke of my unconsciousness? Permission to Comment yes_share_comments --------------- END dream-flow.v001.n132 --------------- -------------- BEGIN dream-flow.v001.n131 -------------- --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n131.1 --------------- Dream Title Waverunning Date of Dream Long time ago Dream In most of my dreams that involve me flying or falling, I feel emotions of fear and panic. However, in one memorable dream I was flying in the air on a waverunner, and the experience was extremely enjoyabel rather than frightening. Although I was falling at an incredible rate, I felt a sense of exhiliration, and was free to cartwheel and spin as I pleased. At one point I remember flying towards a tree, and a friend of mine (who was also on a waverunner) began shouting to me to move out of the way. However, rather than flying around the tree, I flew INTO a hole in the tree and upwards out of another hole in the tree. I then sailed towards a lake and landed calmly. Comments by Dreamer Permission to Comment yes_share_comments --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n131.2 --------------- Dream Title Finding my Studio by Donna Kane Date of Dream reaccuring Dream I have this reaccuring dream - at times it is frantic. I am in a large building - almost like a museum - but abandoned (like where you would find a studio for an artist). I can't find my spot. Either it's been taken - someone is there already, or someone is nearby that I don't want to see ever. I keep searching, the dream is all about searching, cubby holes getting to that spot whichever way I can - it is like a movie - I crawl through things to try to get to the magical room that is mine & I never get there. I have been having this dream for over a year at least - and it is the one dream I remember most. Comments by Dreamer I am a painter by gift from God - I have three small children 4,3,2yrs old and haven't "regularly" painted in years. Permission to Comment yes_share_comments --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n131.3 --------------- Dream Title Sky of joy...Bremen Date of Dream # years ago Dream The dream begins. I find my self in a beautiful blue cobalt sky ( drifting ) I did not see my arms, legs ect. but I could feel my whole body. Then I remember this pure joy ( child like joy) start to flow through me. It was a feeling long forgotten till then. As the flow of feeling increased my arms drew inward. All of the sudden a surge of happiness flooded me to the point i could not contain it no longer... my arms drawn in completely....then i exploded arms down and back i shot through clouds into a warm bright light. then I awoke wishing to continue the dream i tried to fall back asleep ( sometimes it works for me) to no avail. Comments by Dreamer Permission to Comment yes_share_comments Permission Comments I permit you to post the above text --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n131.4 --------------- From: Heratheta@ spider drm-peace had lain to the right of the couch if you had avoided becoming giant, and of course you could smell the spider even though you were sleeping and could even hear it a little bit. car wreck drm-peace had lain to the right of the mountain if you had avoided becoming curvy i just returned from the donner pass between sanfrancisco and reno nevada. the number of problems on that road was much more than usual for the area and i'm convinced it is a jinxed area. more at www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/ --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n131.5 --------------- From: Heratheta@ matches drm-peace had lain to the right of the man if you had avoided trying fishy drm-peace had lain to the right of the bag if you had avoided becoming contained falling house drm-peace had lain to the right of the house if you had avoided becoming most. more at www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/ --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n131.6 --------------- From: Heratheta@ furniture drm-peace had lain to the right of the friend if you had avoided becoming "began" england drm-peace had lain to the right of london if you had avoided becoming "about" more at www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/ --------------- MESSAGE dream-flow.v001.n131.7 --------------- From: Heratheta@ betrothall drm-peace had lain to the right of the reunion if you had avoided introducing more at www.dreamgayte.com./dream/dubetz/ i found the number to the artists of the dream mural at northpoint and polk in sanfrancisco. they were very kind and invited me to meet with them however i got lost in the sanfrancisco night trying to find 2981 24th street. does anyone know this area of the city and or the kind of place this address is? --------------- END dream-flow.v001.n131 --------------- ** END DREAMS ** END DREAMS ** END DREAMS ** END DREAMS ** END DREAMS ** END DREAMS ** END DREAMS ** END DREAMS Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z ELECTRIC DREAMS ACCESS INFORMATION Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z=Z Subscriptions: The Electric Dreams E-zine (issn 1089 4284)is *free* and distributed via email about once a month. 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