E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Subscribe: electric-dreams-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Subscribe Online: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electric-dreams Unsubscribe: electric-dreams-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Volume #8 Issue #4 April 2001 ISSN# 1089 4284 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Download a Cover for this Issue! http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-covers Artist : Richard Wilkerson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= C O N T E N T S ++ Editor's Notes ++ Event: Mutual Dream Healing Circle: 21st of Every Month ++ Notes to the Editor/Dream Airing ++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange By Lucy Gillis ++ Column: The Dream Doctor By Charles McPhee, Ph.D. ++ Column: The DreamSpinner Column Working Dreams With The Power Of Computers By Bjo Ashwill ++ Column: Exploring Dreaming through the I Ching By Hilary Barrett, Clarity ++ Article: Interpreting Your Dreams... Can They Predict the Future? By Shari Gerson ++ Article: Sleep Creating By Eric Maisel ++ Article: Dreams, Postmodern Theory and the Improverse: Selections from Postmodern Dreaming By Richard Catlett Wilkerson G L O B A L * D R E A M I N G * N E W S - Peggy Coats NEWS * RESEARCH & REQUESTS * WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES * * DREAM CALENDAR for April & May 2001 * ASD News Update! D R E A M S S E C T I O N : This issue includes volume #119 - #137 D E A D L I N E : April 18, deadline for MAY submissions M.U.T.U.A.L D.R.E.A.M T.A.R.G.E.T We are re-focusing on the Mutual Dream Circle, which meets the 21st of each month. See details below. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Send Dreams and Comments on Dreams to: Richard Wilkerson Send Dreaming News and Calendar Events to: Peggy Coats Send Articles and Subscription concerns to: Richard Wilkerson: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Editor's Notes =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Welcome to the April issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams and dreaming online. If you are new to Electric Dreams, please see our January 2001 issue for an introduction and guide to dreaming online. http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-backissues ---------- Well, I promised to have the latest Computer and Dreams data out in this issue, but just couldn't squeeze it in. We have several authors that have been waiting patiently for their articles to be printed and the computer and dreams material is very long, so I will wait and put that in a separate issue. Eric Maisel, author of _Sleep Thinking_ joins us this month with thoughts and suggestions on problem solving during sleep. You may be surprised by all you can cultivate and improve during those sleepy hours. Please read his "Sleep Creating." Bjo Ashwill has been showing us how to use the computer's power to store, group, analyze and retrieve information from our dreams. This month she will be looking at a single dream. Usually, the power of DreamSpinner program is to work large sets of dreams and find patterns, or see the patterns change over time. But the DreamSpinner can be useful as an additional tool to working a single dream. Find out what a DreamSpinner Word frequency counts can tell you about a dream that other types of dreamwork don't find. Also, please note that Bjo is looking for nightmares that she can use in her research. See the DreamSpinner column for all this and more. Charles McPhee, author of Stop Sleeping Through Your Dreams and the director of the Dream Doctor website returns to comment on dreams. http://www.dreamdoctor.com The excerpt from Lucy Gillis's "Lucid Dream Exchange" includes a feature article written by "Adastra" who looks at the idea of taking dream drugs while lucid, as a symbolic way to express intent (to the dreaming mind) to experience an altered state of consciousness. Learn about turning-on to dreams by tuning into the Lucid Dream Exchange. Are your dreams always about just yourself, or might they also be predicting the future? Shari Gerson explores this question in "Interpreting Your Dreams... Can They Predict the Future?" Snakes have been interpreted as everything from your father's penis to god on high. Hilary Barrett uses the I Ching on a snake dream with interesting results. Before your next snake dream, be sure to read "Exploring Dreams through the I Ching" Eric Maisel, author of _sleep thinking_ is visiting with us with some new ideas for putting those sleepy hours to work on life big and small mysteries. If you ever wondered how this could be done, you will enjoy reading his article "Sleep Creating." I am going to be adding a series of essays from my latest opus-in-progress, Postmodern Dreaming. In this except from an essay on what dreamwork has to say about virtual reality, I explore what happens when our postindustrial society begins spinning so fast that speed itself becomes a value. Hang on to your hats, we are going to be moving so fast that we may have already gotten there before we start! Our news directory, Peggy Coats, from dreamtree.com, has gathered dreaming news from around the world, events, conferences, seminars..... be sure to read what is both online and offline has allowed us this month to include the ASD E-news in place of the usual Global Dreaming News. If you have news items about dreams and dreaming for Peggy, send them to her at pcoats@dreamtree.com Our Dreams this month come from all around the Net and have been organized by the software developed by Harry Bosma. Be sure to look through the dreams and see what on the mind and soul of dreamers in Cyberspace. If you would like a cover for your Electric Dreams, the cover is at http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-covers If you are not yet a member of the Association for the Study of Dreams, I would like to encourage you to join. Why? See the letter below in Dream Airing from David Gordon about the benefits you get and the important contribution to the Dream Movement your membership will make. Be sure to visit with us in live Chat on Wednesday March 28th at 7pm pacific time. The Dream Time Live guest will be Deirdre Barrett, Ph.D, The author of the new book Committee of Sleep and Editor in Chief of the ASD Dreaming journal. Send an e to chat@asdreams.org for details and stop by the chat room at: http://mirror.at/mindrec/ More on this below in the Dream Airing section. See you there! -Richard Wilkerson /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dream Airing: News, Notes and Events =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ///////////////////////////////////// Want to chat about dreams? So you have seen it all and done everything there is to do in dreamwork. For you, Electric Dreams offers the further reaches of dreamwork. On the outer edge, the community explores postmodern dreamwork, transhumanist dreamwork, mutual dreaming, lucid dreaming and psi dreaming. Imagine dreamwork at trans-warp drive speeds. Open a sub-space portal and teledream though. A good place to start here is with the dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com list. Stop by http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/dreamchatters for more information. //////////////////////////////////////////////////// I wanted to mention again this month that we are re-structuring the dream groups sponsored by Electric Dreams. We will still have the same great in-depth dream exploration, but we are adding some educational components to some and allowing for more personal group formation on others. Keep and eye out in early February for full scoop, we will send out information along the Electric Dreams channel as well as the DreamGate "History of Dreams" channel. If you are already a member of one of these groups, you will hear about the changes from your group moderators. ///////////////////////////////////////////////// The Association for the Study of Dreams DREAM TIME LIVE SCHEDULE: On March 28, 2001, 7 PM Pacific Time, our Dream Time Live guest will be Deirdre Barrett, Ph.D, Editor in Chief of the ASD journal Dreaming. and author of the new book, The Committee of Sleep: How Artists, Scientists, and Athletes Use Their Dreams for Creative Problem Solving. Deirdre Barrett, Ph.D. is an assistant professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School, Past President of ASD, and Editor-in-Chief of Dreaming: The Journal of the Association for the Study of Dreams. She has served as Program Chair of two of ASD's annual conferences. Deirdre uses dreams in her own self-exploration, in work with psychotherapy clients, and in psychology research. She has taught courses on dreams at American universities and lectured about them in Russia, Kuwait, Israel, England and Holland. Deirdre lives and has her clinical practice in Cambridge, Massachusetts.. For more information about Deirdre Barrett, Ph.D. and her books, stop by her ASD member's page: http://www.geocities.com/asdreams_2000/members/deirdre_barrett.htm ________ WEDNESDAY March 28, 7 PM Pacific Time 03:00:00 Thursday March 29 2001 in GMT or Universal Time What time is that for me? That will be GMT or Universal Time = 03:00:00 Thursday March 29 2001 in GMT 19:00:00 Wed MARCH 28, 2001 in California is 03:00:00 Thu March 29, 2001 in GMT or Universal Time 04:00:00 Thu March 29, 2001 in Europe/Oslo 04:00:00 Thu March 29, 2001 in Europe/Amsterdam 00:00:00 Thu March 29, 2001 in America/Buenos_Aires 05:00:00 Thu March 29, 2001 in Africa/Johannesburg 11:00:00 Thu March 29, 2001 in Asia/Hong_Kong Day-light Savings starts! 15:00:00 Thu March 29, 2001 in Australia/Melbourne ======================================================== WHERE? This chat will take place in the Dreaming_and_Chatting chat room. You can connect from the Web or IRC **** WEB CONNECTION: http://mirror.at/mindrec/ ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Are you having dreams about computers? I have expanded the Computer Dreams survey to include not just digital dreams, but also dreams about robots, cyborgs, androids and other beings and scenarios that look at the human-machine interface. Be sure to drop off your computer dreams and fill out the survey at: http://www.dreamgate.com/computers/ ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ---------- //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// A letter from David Gordon, Ph.D. Membership Chair of The Association for the Study of Dreams: Dear Dreamer, Here's a short quiz: What do the following people have in common? Isabelle Allende, Albert Einstein, Paul McCartney, George Frederick Handel, Richard Wagner, Robert Louis Stevenson, Charlotte and Emily Bronte, Renes Descartes, Orson Welles, Ingmar Bergman, Elias Howe, James Watt, Billy Joel, D.H. Lawrence, Dmitri Mendelev, and Jack Nicklaus. These are just a few of the scientists, musicians, artists, writers, inventors and athletes who have said their work was deeply enriched and often, completely inspired by their dreams! Dreams are one of the primary sources of human creativity and problem solving. Indeed, virtually all cultures throughout time have honored the wisdom and guidance available from dreams. Yet, in our own society, few of us realize the numerous discoveries, inventions and works of art that are dream-inspired and which have shaped our culture. That's why the Association for the Study of Dreams (ASD) is unique: We study dreams... and not just the dreams of famous people. We know that dreams can be a profound source of problem solving, guidance, as well as healing in the daily lives of each and every one of us. On a personal note, I am writing to let you know the real treasure I have found learning from this richly diverse group of teachers, anthropologists, counselors, researchers, clergy and artists, not to mention the many simply interested in dreams for their own personal study and spiritual nourishment. I attended my first ASD conference fifteen years ago on a lackluster whim: " Sounds interesting. Guess I'll go. Why not?" Now fifteen years later, I want you to know the immense impact that learning the language of my dreams and becoming part of an international dream community has had on my life. I know when you choose to join ASD, you will find as I have that your life is enormously enriched by the people you meet and the understanding you gain about dreams. So, whether your interest is personal or professional, a vast array of experts from different disciplines, countries and cultures will offer you an abundant choice of workshops and programs. Here are some recent offerings: · Find out how dreams can help you at critical turning points in your life. · Learn how as parents we can help our children benefit from their dreams and overcome nightmares. · Hear why brain researchers no longer view dreams as random and meaningless. · Discover the role dreams play in literature and philosophy and how they stimulate the artistic and creative process. · Chat with Tibetan monks about the Yoga of dreaming and explore the fascinating functions dreams play in many indigenous and shamanic cultures. · Join a dreamsharing group and discover new techniques for working with your dreams Each year I look forward with excitement to these meetings, always knowing that I will be welcomed into what feels as much like a warm extended family as an international organization whose mission is to explore the leading edge of consciousness about the nature of dreams. However, the embrace of community and like-minded friends is only one of the special benefits of joining ASD. As an ASD member, you'll receive our: · Quarterly magazine DreamTime · Quarterly multi-disciplinary professional journal Dreaming For cyberspace dreamers, you can check us out at our very cool web site http://www.asdreams.org/ where you'll have the opportunity to: · Create your own Personal Member Web Page · Log on to bulletin boards · Join E-Study groups on dream-related studies you find most intriguing · Receive ASD E- News at your email doorstep every month · Hear about regional conferences and speak monthly with dream experts via our DreamTime Live Internet Chats . Finally, don't forget about our now world famous Dream Ball that caps off every annual conference- a fabulous dream-inspired costume party! So having shared with you some of the unique and wonderful benefits I have personally enjoyed as a member of ASD, I am inviting you to join us now. Take advantage of this extraordinary educational opportunity and be a part of the festivities at our upcoming 18th International conference: 2001: A Dream Odyssey in Santa Cruz, CA from July 10-15, 2001. You can also learn more about us and sign up at our web site ~ http://www.asdreams.org/2001 ~. Until then... May your dreams guide you swiftly and well along your path. David Gordon, Ph.D. Membership Chair Association for the Study of Dreams /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Mutual Dream Healing Circle =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mutual Dream Healing Circle: Dreamshare members ( a moderated, egalitarian on-line group for exploring the life and meanings of the dream-world) have initiated a dream-healing concentration, to be held in the consciousness of participants on the night of the 21st. of each month. Before going to sleep at night, please hold the thought, prayer, or concentration in your consciousness of bringing healing energy to those who have so requested. you may use whatever practices are important or helpful to you in effecting this healing state. there will be a list of names or circumstances of those who have specifically requested to be included in our thoughts and prayers. please observe the general decorum of distance healing work in many traditions and do not add anyone to the list without his or her express approval...you may wish to hold in your consciousness someone else you know who is in need of healing energy and send them that energy, but please do respect everyone's rights to self-determination and privacy. my feeling is that someone who has asked you for thoughts and prayers can be included here as well. feel free to contact Judith, c/o if you would like to be included in the list or for more information. On awakening, you may wish to pay special attention to recalling your dreams and, if you wish, you may submit them to< Dreamshare-owner@yahoogroups.com> for inclusion on our list. anyway, that's about it for now. take care, Judith =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= AN EXCERPT FROM THE LUCID DREAM EXCHANGE By Lucy Gillis =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The feature article this month is written by "Adastra" who looks at the idea of taking dream drugs while lucid, as a symbolic way to express intent (to the dreaming mind) to experience an altered state of consciousness. ************************************ DREAM TRIPS: DREAM DRUGS AS METAPHOR By Adrasta (xtrope@direct.ca) If someone takes a psychoactive drug while physically awake, it changes her brain chemistry and so alters her state of consciousness. Taking a drug in a dream is a very different proposition, however - in that realm a drug would actually be a metaphor for an intention to change your consciousness in a particular way, and as such I believe it could be an interesting and useful technique for lucid dreamers. Ann Faraday discusses this in her book DREAM POWER: "I had several high dreams during and after the period of my [legal] drug research, and the one I remember most vividly still remains somewhat of a mystery to me. In this dream, I found myself on a desert island with some friends when a storm blew up. As we stood and watched the lightning flash across the sky and the waves beating against the rocks, I thought, "I wish I had some acid now." My wish immediately became reality, and I reached a "high" in the dream. For a timeless moment, I danced, flashed, and roared with the storm and seemed to merge with the "being" at the centre of it. On regaining normal consciousness in the dream, I turned to my friends and said, "You need acid to see the devil in the storm," and they nodded their comprehension. I woke up feeling exhilarated and joyful beyond belief, a feeling which remained with me for several days. Here again is evidence that the "high" state can be produced without drugs - in this case it was a mental image of LSD which succeeded in bringing about the ecstatic dream experience." In contrast to Charles Tart's article on "high dreams" in ALTERED STATES OF CONSCIOUSNESS, Faraday suggests that it may be possible to experience such a state in a dream without having experienced it first in waking life. Most of Tart's data comes from subjects who had participated in LSD research and subsequently had similar experiences in dreams. Faraday, however, experienced her first high dream long before her research with psychedelics. One fascinating aspect of this phenomenon mentioned by Tart is that some of the subjects experienced a continuation of the altered state for a few minutes after they woke up. Terence McKenna, who has done extensive research with psilocybin and DMT, mentioned in an interview that he has experienced "full-blown DMT experiences" after taking the substance in a dream, and that this experience sometimes persisted for a few moments after waking. It would be interesting to speculate on whether taking a drug in a dream is literally altering your brain chemistry, or even if naturally occurring psychedelics in the brain could be involved in the normal dreaming process. After all, it is known that a small amount of a psychedelic taken before going to sleep - an amount too small to produce a noticeable effect if taken while awake - will extend the period of REM dreaming. The Lucidity Institute Lucid Dreaming FAQ states, "Drugs in the LSD family, including psilocybin and tryptamines actually stimulate REM sleep (in doses small enough to allow sleep), leading to longer REM periods." They add, "we do not recommend the use of drugs without proper guidance nor do we urge the breaking of laws," an important qualification with which I fully agree. Regardless of the possible role of endogenous psychedelics in "normal" brain chemistry and daily altered states such as dreaming, it may be worthwhile to experiment with "dream drugs" as a metaphor for intended alterations of consciousness. Obviously, if one has experienced the effect of a particular drug while awake - be it LSD, alcohol, ecstasy, marijuana or whatever - it would be possible to compare the states produced in the dream and those produced while awake. However, even if one has never experienced a drug in waking life, knowing what the effects of the drug are said to be may be sufficient to produce a useful altered state in the dream environment. A.S. Kay, in the article "Psychedelics and Lucid Dreaming: Doorways in the Mind," mentions a dreamer's experience of taking MDMA [ecstasy] in a dream, then notes, "The dreamer had...not yet taken MDMA in waking life. Shortly after this dream he did try it and found the experience to be very similar." Kay points out the rich array of possibilities open to someone who chooses this line of experimentation: "A particularly "psychedelic" way of programming your choice is to decide which dream drug to take in a lucid state. If you take dream-MDMA you will have a heart-level bonding experience, which can be used to clear negative patterns with parents, lovers or friends, or to enhance awareness of the perfection of your self, and every other person. If you take dream-LSD you can more easily tune into the unconscious realms and the spiritual channels, etc. You might even try creating your own brand of psychedelic, with attributes of your fancy. If you are really daring, take a totally unknown drug, and let it take you where it will. Everything you learn will mirror your mind! You will reach totally new and uncharted lands, which are yet somehow familar! Speculative and science fiction stories also offer good ideas for compounding your dream drug...time warpers would be drugs that dilate or contract time, or allow time travel to past and future lives. Or take a stripper drug that peels away layer after layer of whatever you see/feel to reveal its deeper essence - then dream a mirror and fall into your core! Or design a transference drug that allows you to be fully in another's mind, or in an alien consciousness. Of course there are all manner of telepathy-enhancing drugs you could conjure, as well as dream tripmates to play with. The list is an endless as your fantasy world, and as deep as your calling." No matter how you feel about using psychedelic or other drugs while physically awake, you may find them worthwhile to experiment with in dreams. In dreamland you don't have to worry about breaking the law, nor about the possible purity or even identity of black market drugs. You need not worry about the safety of your physical body. And in the fluid state of dreams, you may be able to go much deeper into a state than you would during an analogous experience initiated in consensus reality. As John Lilly aptly noted, "In the province of the mind, there are no limits." ______________ Faraday, Ann. "Dream Power" New York, Berkley 1980. Kay, A.S. "Psychedelics and Lucid Dreaming: Doorways in the Mind." Psychedelic Monographs and Essays, Issue 3: Dec. 1987. [I believe this essay is available in the book Psychedelics: The most exciting new materials on psychedelic drugs, ed. by Thomas Lyttle. It should also be available from your local library as an Inter-Library Loan.] Tart, Charles, "The 'High' Dream: A New State of Consciousness," Altered States of Consciousness. New York, Harpercollins 1990. The Lucidity Institute Lucid Dreaming FAQ is available at http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamingFAQ2.html ********************************************************** The Lucid Dream Exchange is a quarterly issue featuring lucid dreams and lucid dream related articles, poetry, and book reviews submitted by readers. For further information contact Lucy Gillis at lucy_gillis@hotmail.com *********************************************************** =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Dream Doctor Charles McPhee, Ph.D. http://www.dreamdoctor.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "Online Lover" Dear Dream Doctor - I am a 45-year-old, married, black female professional. I have been having an online "affair," if you will call it that, for 3 years with a white man. My husband, who is also a professional, travels a lot with his job. I have met my online lover, and although we have shared embraces, we have not shared a bed. This dream begins with me on my bed and my husband in the sitting room that is off our bedroom. There is a curtain there, so I cannot actually see him but I hear him as he moves about. He is watching TV. My lover enters my bedroom wearing just a long tee shirt and crawls onto the bed with me. I am not surprised to see him; it is as if he does this often. He snuggles up behind me and is very amorous. I am watching the crack in the curtain. I suggest that we go to another room. We go the bathroom that is just beyond my laundry room. There is a cot set up for him. He apparently stays here often. But the washer has been moved into the bathroom and I am concerned that my husband will come into this room to tend to the washer. So I am emptying the washer and taking clothes from the toilet(?) that appear to be clean. I am trying frantically to stay ahead of my husband in thought. I hear him come into the laundry room and he is doing something with the dryer. My lover is starting to say something and I am signaling him not to talk but he continues to whisper. My husband is close enough that I could touch him if there were no wall and I am almost crazed that I can't seem to make my lover understand that he should not talk AT ALL. He finally makes me understand that he has left his belt out in the house somewhere. He thinks maybe my bedroom, and he is not sure where his pants are. My head is about spin off as I try to imagine where he might have left his things and if I can get to them before my husband sees them - as they are not the same body types and do not share a sense of style. Help me understand this dream please. -Confused, Age 45, Married, Female, North Carolina, USA Hi Confused- Is this dream really so hard to understand? Affairs, while they may be exciting, are hard work! There is so much lying, pretending, and covering up to do! It can be exhausting-just trying to keep your story straight! Your dream uses a familiar metaphor to show the proximity, mentally, of your spouse. Even when you are in bed with your lover, your husband never is far from your thoughts. In the opening scene he is located in another room, just behind a "curtain." Then, when you move with your lover to a bathroom for privacy, your husband's presence still is felt. He comes in to tend to the dryer in the next room, and you are about to "lose your mind"-for fear of being discovered. Houses in dreams are common symbols for the self, and it appears that your affair has created a house divided. A curtain hangs between your bedroom and sitting room (a curtain of silence, that hangs between your private and public lives?), while your lover's cot in the bathroom suggests that he too occupies a compartmentalized arrangement in your mind. Bathrooms in dreams are locations where private acts and behaviors, that we frequently feel ashamed of, are performed. Accordingly, the location of your lover's cot in the bathroom suggests he is an activity that is private, and that you are not especially proud of. In the same light, your attempts to pull laundry (clean) from the toilet bowl may symbolize your efforts to "wash" and "keep clean" guilty feelings you hold about your affair. Finally, the belt in your dream is a reminder that, no matter how hard you work to conceal your footsteps, affairs always cause us to look twice in the mirror (or in the bedroom), to see if any traces of our clandestine activities are exposed. Your dream is confusing because you wonder if it is precognitive. (Will this nightmare happen in real life?) If the stress of maintaining a secret from your husband is growing to be a burden, why don't you take this dream as a sign that it's time to seize control of your future yourself? In other words, it may be time to tell your online friend-to "log off." The thrill isn't worth it, and your partner deserves better. Once this odyssey is over, you will be able to sit back and enjoy all the things you don't have to worry about. Then you will truly understand the wisdom of the old saying: "You can't buy peace of mind." Charles McPhee, Ph.D. http://www.dreamdoctor.com Hi Dreamers! The Dream Doctor Radio show is live on the air in central and southern California! Visit http://www.dreamdoctor.com/radio/bulletsdontfit.ram to learn what guns (without bullets) mean in dreams! *********************************************************** =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The DreamSpinner Column Working Dreams With The Power Of Computers 9th Column: Working Single Dreams With DreamSpinner By Bjo Ashwill http://www.spinner-soft.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Hi, Electric Dreamers. I am Bjo Ashwill and am writing a monthly column on my experiences of creating a computer software program that does very detailed analysis of dream narratives. You are welcome to visit my web site and check out DreamSpinner, the software program I will be describing. http://www.spinner-soft.com. The site was recently revised and is full of exciting interactive things you can do. Check us out! In this column I shall describe, over time, how to use the computer's power to store, group, analyze and retrieve information from our dreams. DreamSpinner's greatest power is working with long "over time" dream series, although it can work with individual dreams as well. How do metaphor patterns change over time? That is the question that began my journey toward creating DreamSpinner. This month I am looking at a single dream. Usually, the power of DreamSpinner is to work large sets of dreams and find patterns, or see the patterns change over time. I wanted to explore just how useful DreamSpinner can be as an additional tool to working a single dream. What can DreamSpinner Word frequency counts tell you about a dream that other types of dreamwork don't find. I, like many of you, have different methods I use to work a dream. My favorite is group dreamwork, either online or in a real time group. What I love best about this form of work is the additional objective minds working on my dream. Others will see things I am in denial about, or didn't notice. They will make connections I couldn't have made because I lacked the information they have. Looking at a dream with DreamSpinner is similar to that. Another objective view is shown me. I would never substitute my other forms of dreamwork and rely solely on DreamSpinner. It is simply one of many tools that can enhance our understanding of a dream. So, here is a dream to look at. After the dream is a list of categories in the descending order of frequency found in the dream. The most frequently used categories indicates the stronger patterns found in the dream. 1/15/2000 Loving Solitude I am in a store where candles and pretty glass things are sold. I am maybe 30 something and good looking. Healthy. I am wearing cutoffs and a short top. I have decided to live my life as a wanderer without possessions. To travel light. I have a small light guitar to carry strapped on my back, like a minstrel. I look at the neck of the guitar and notice the large wide neck. I try and will it more narrow so my hands can manage it. I go outside. It is the beach. I lie down on my tummy in the sand. Enjoying the lovely day. A good looking man comes over and sits with me and we talk about writing. I decide to show him how I do it. So he and two children walk toward my new house which is built in a secluded part of the beach far away from other people. As we walk, the beach trail/road is covered with vegetation and we keep walking through it. Then the sandy road is visible again. Now we are in a car, sort of 1950's sedan. I drive. We arrive at the house and I pull up in front of the double garage to the left of the large spacious log house. Dark rich woods. We get out and I go into the garage where all the animals I help heal up are there. Lots of baby pigs pink and cute, and black and white spotted are there, in hay nests in a row. A baby chick is there. I pet it. The children love being with the animals. The black and white one limps badly from his old wounds I healed him up from. So they have residue problems from their health problems. They are happy and free of pain here with me/. I take the man and the children around to the front of the house the porch is long and wide, a wonderful place to sit and think. I go into the living room where the room is filled with furniture wonderful old fashioned overstuffed couches 3 of them and round oak tables dining tables like grandma V's stuff. 3 or 4 of them. Now I go into another room light and airy and show the man about my writing and music. Characteristics ...Direction ......Toward .........Toward Direction .........Toward Object ......From A Source ......Front ...Time ......Age Older ......Present ...Appearance ......Physically Attractive ......Light ...Size ......Size Larger(6) ......Size Smaller(3) ...Color ......Black ......White Multi-colored ......Red ...Density ......Density Negative(3) ......Density Positive(3) Character's Extra Information ...Character's Numbers ......Animal Numbers (4) ......Group(3) ......Individual(3) ...Character's Age ......Adult(3) ......Baby(3) ......Child(3) ...Character's Sex ......Indefinite(3) ......Male General(3) ...Animals Domestic/Wild ......Domestic Movement ...Journey ......Under Own Power (10) ......With Assistance(3) ......Unknown(2) ......Transporting(1) ...Communication ......Expressive Communication ......Written ......Artistic Communication ......Verbal Motion ...At Rest ...Removing Transformation ...Change Appearance ...Creation ...Make Bigger Flow ...Flow Open ...Regulators ...Things That Flow Objects ...Architecture ......Rooms .........Garage .........Bedroom .........Living Room .........Porches .........Unknown room ...Implements ......Household .........Furniture ............Table ............Chair ......Musical Instruments .........Guitar ...Materials ...Clothing ...Vehicles Character's Identity ...Dreamer ...Animals ...Stranger Object Relationships ...Connection ...Placement ...Contain ...Cover/Conceal ...Separation ...Attachment ...Blending ...Loss Body ...Body Process ......Healthy .........Heal .........Health .........Healthy .........Live .........Pain ......Non-Healthy ...Sensory ......Visual ......Auditory ...Anatomy ......Internal Anatomy ......Extremities Mind ...Mental ......Thinking ......Abstract Ideas ...Emotional ......State of Mind Positive Evaluation ...Evaluation Positive(9) ...Difficult Situations(2) Evaluation Negative(1) Nature ...Plant Life ...Terrain ...Water ...Earth and Its Mineral Elements Location ...Setting ......Unfamiliar ......Indoor ......Outdoor ...Regions ......Beach ...Street ......Roads Between Places ......BackWays Social Interaction ...Friendliness ......Helping Others ......Expression of Friendliness ......Socially Acceptable Physical Contact Achievement ...Success ...Attempt Social Interaction Direction ...Dreamer Toward Others ...Mutual Social Activities ...Musical Activities Change of Possession ...Possession ...Exchange Goods Chance ...Misfortune, Injury or Illness Nuances ...Lucid The first thing I noticed is the importance of descriptive terms in this dream. Ordinarily, the category "Characteristics" is not the first to show up in the list. Movement is often the first. Under the category "characteristics" the first sub category is "Direction". There is a lot of movement toward things and places. As a metaphor, this feels very positive. Proactive. Another strong characteristic is "attractive" and "Light". Again a sense of the positive. I am interested to see that no known or family members are in the dream, in fact, The Dreamer is the strongest character, then Animals and then strangers. The interactions are strongly friendly. Even though there are difficult situations and injury or illness, the strong features of the dream are on healing and health. Success is a strong element as well. I am interested that the first sub category of the "Object Relationships" category is "Connection". This is a category where we might not notice how objects are in relationship to one another as we read the dream. This is a helpful category for me to check for additional information. If we are all parts of our dreams, then the spatial relationships between objects have meaning to us as well. I am also interested in the "Streets" category under the category "Location." "Roads between places" and "Backways" are intriguing metaphors to look at in this dream. See what you can find in DreamSpinner's list that you didn't notice in the dream when you read it. While I have your attention, hopefully, I would like to request any nightmare dreams you would be willing to share that I could use in a research project I am involved in. I will be doing a presentation on "Counting The Things That Go Bump In The Night" for the ASD conference in July of this year. I am using the Barbara Sanders long dream series. I would like to gather other people's nightmares and dreams as a comparison. In addition, I am creating a base line database for DreamSpinner to measure dreams against. If you are willing, there are two ways you can get the dreams to me. 1. You can go to my Website http://www.spinner-soft.com and enter a dream. I would also need you to fill out the optional registration form and the Informed Consent form giving me permission to use your dreams. I will not use any personal identifying information about the dreamer. The dreams will be anonymous. If fact most of the dreams will be presented as patterns and percentages. Perhaps a few snippets from dreams may be used as examples. It would help if you changed the names of known characters and places so you can protect the privacy of anyone in your dreams. 2. Send your dream to me directly with my email dreambjo@hotmail.com. I will then send the registration form and the Informed Consent form. I thank you and hope you will want to participate in this experience. Come on up to my website:www.spinner-soft.com and leave some nightmare dreams. Or any kind of dreams you wish. Leave a comment on others dreams. List the metaphors in your dream and comment on how that metaphor seems to mean to you. Check out what others think that same metaphor means to you. It's yet another dream group online. See you next month. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Exploring Dreams through the I Ching Hilary Barrett, Clarity =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dream Title: Snake to Man, Artemis Browndeer Dream: I was trying to rid my house of a poisonous snake that just kept coming back, even after I threw it out of the house. Eventually, I looked closely at the snake, particularly the head area, and the snake morphed into a sharp-featured man, and we began hugging and embracing. Comments by Dreamer: Snake symbolizes evil, does it not? I was embracing evil? Snakes symbolise all kinds of things! In the Judaeo-Christian tradition they are evil, true, but in other traditions they represent change, wisdom and eternity. But more important that all that, imho, is the role played by the snake in your personal dream. This snake is something dangerous you keep trying to get out of your life (your house), but without success. And yet when you look at it closely in the dream, it becomes something you want to be united with. So what is going on? The I Ching describes your dream with Hexagram 36, Brightness Hidden. This hexagram shows the sun hidden under the earth - appropriately enough for a dream. The light that is hidden represents clear awareness and perception, and also something shining and true. So there are two meanings here: that awareness is hidden, and we are in the realms of the unconscious, and that something bright is going unseen and unappreciated. In fact, 'hidden' can also mean 'banished' or 'injured': there is a story associated with this hexagram of a prince who refused on principle to serve the new ruler and was imprisoned for it. Unrecognised and misjudged, he nonetheless kept his own light shining. 'Brightness hidden. Hard struggle and persistence are rewarded.' I think that this is also the story of the snake in your dream. You banished it - 'brightness hidden is denounced and forbidden' but it persisted. What you still reject in waking life can survive in your dreams, just as the prince survived in prison. Now you're awake and reflecting on the dream, you have in effect banished the snake yet again because you associate it with evil. In the dream, though, you looked at it closely and changed your mind. The contrasting hexagram to Brightness Hidden is Progress - a time when the sun shines on you, and you seize every new opportunity. But there is an encouraging side to this: Brightness Hidden also *follows* from Progress: 'making progress necessarily creates the opportunity for injury.' So the fact that you're having this dream, being brought face to face with something you have tried to banish from your life, is in itself a sign that you're moving on. Hidden within this hexagram, and within your dream, is the possibility of release. (Hexagram 40, Release, is the Nuclear Hexagram of 36.) This is like prising tight knots apart, or the relief you feel after a thunderstorm. It also lets you make decisions quite simply by releasing your sense of purpose: 'With no place to go, coming back brings good fortune. With a direction to go, set out at daybreak, good fortune.' Hexagram 40 is also about forgiveness: freedom from the 'net' of guilt. I think these possibilities began to emerge in the dream when you looked at the snake instead of throwing it out straight away, recognised it as a man, and embraced him. The darkness of a dream - when the brightness of consciousness is hidden - has the potential to bring release and understanding. Maybe this is because it's the precise opposite, in the I Ching, of Arguing, when you fight for what you need and protest openly against injustice. So the snake represents something that you are trying to banish from your life. Of course, only you can decide what this is, but here is one direction that you might like to explore... In the Christian tradition, the snake is evil precisely because it brings knowledge about sexuality, and tempts Eve to disobedience. The snake becomes a man, and you embrace. And I see that you are called Artemis - is this a name you chose for yourself? Artemis was the virgin goddess, who rejected sexuality altogether: when a man saw her bathing, she turned him into a deer, hunted him down and killed him. Perhaps this could be a place to start... *********************************************************** The I Ching is the ancient Chinese oracle of change. For a hundred generations, it has been answering people's questions, from dream interpretation to career decisions, across the whole spectrum of human experience. I have been learning from the I Ching for many years, and founded Clarity, a dedicated I Ching consultation service, to make the oracle's help readily and simply available to all who need it. Hilary Barrett. Please send comments or questions to support@onlineClarity.co.uk www.onlineClarity.co.uk *********************************************************** =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Sleep Creating Eric Maisel Author of , Sleep Thinking: The Revolutionary Program That Helps You Solve Problems, Reduce Stress, and Increase Creativity While You Sleep =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The song came to Paul McCartney in his sleep. Jasper Johns' flag paintings came to him in a dream. The opening notes to a song woke Keith Richards up in the middle of the night. He got up and tape-recorded the beginning to The ending to Isabelle Allende's novel came to her in a dream. Sue Grafton explained, "I reach a point in many of my books where I have a problem I can't solve, so as I go to sleep I give myself the suggestion that a solution will come. When I wake up the solution will be there." After writing seven hundred pages of and not knowing where the novel was going, Stephen King had the conclusion come to him in his sleep. It will not surprise you to learn that your brain works while you sleep, that it dreams, thinks and creates. You've already had the experience of creating your novel, painting or song while you slept, of finding the right word, the right plot twist, the right image while you were in the land of nod. The idea of sleep creating is not new to you or news to you. However, what may surprise you is that you can cultivate and improve your natural ability to sleep create. Not only will you solve creative problems more easily but you will enter into a routine that dramatically increases both the quality and quantity of your creative efforts. You double or triple the hours you currently create when you sleep create. In , my latest book, I outline an eighteen-step program for fashioning this new routine. If you follow the steps of the Sleep Thinking Program, within a week you will find yourself more productive and more creative. You may not think that something as simple as learning to sleep create could make a giant difference in your creative life. But you would be wrong. What you are doing by following the apparently simple steps of the Sleep Thinking Program is moving your creative efforts to the top of your internal to-do list, catapulting them over the other matters that clutter our mind. This is a profound change guaranteed to increase your output and deepen your art. What did you think about when you went to bed last night? If you are like most people, you stewed about the day's events, replayed an unpleasant conversation from work, or began dreading what tomorrow would bring. Maybe you lay there, restive and unable to sleep, listening to your lover snore. But there are far better things to do with that time than stew and worry. The very best thing is to ready yourself for a night's worth of creating. As soon as you crawl into bed, start thinking about your current creative project. Give your brain a real invitation to think. If you do, your brain will take sleep as its opportunity to make all the necessary connections. You'll drift off and sleep like a baby. When you wake up, head straight to your current creative project, so as to make the best use of your night efforts. Just wondering (and not worrying) about your current project as you drift off to sleep is the best way to enlist your brain. But you may feel blocked or you may not be working on a project right now. In that case, the following are some good sleeping thinking questions to get you started. Choose any one of them of them as a portal into sleep creating. 1. What do I want to create? 2. What is my deepest creative project? 3. What is waiting to be born? 4. What piece do I want to return to? 5. What new project do I want to launch? The following are two brief examples of how the Sleep Thinking Program can help with your creative life. Joyce, a second generation Chinese-American, had gotten her undergraduate degree in economics and an MBA after that. For twenty-five years she'd worked in corporate America in increasingly demanding jobs, while at the same time marrying and bringing two children into the world. But when her aunt was diagnosed with colon cancer in her early seventies and her mother was diagnosed with the same cancer shortly thereafter, something in Joyce snapped. It no longer made sense to her to just push herself, her husband, and her children as if nothing mattered but achievement. But she didn't know what else she should do. She began sleep thinking on the question, "What would a more meaningful life look like?" One morning she awoke and knew that she had to make a documentary film about the women of her mother's generation, the Chinese women in their eighties and nineties who had grown up in China and about whom she knew next to nothing. She knew that her pursuit of the American Dream had something to do with her feelings about these women, what they stood for and what they demanded of their children, and that she had to come to terms with her feelings while these women were still alive. To honor her realization, Joyce began a journey into filmmaking, oral history, and the hidden recesses of her own psyche that culminated in a film that she never knew she had it in her to create. Loretta was a young woman who hated making mistakes. She had grown up with critical parents who made her feel worthless whenever she displeased them, which, since nothing could ever be done to their liking, was all the time. If she played a piano piece decently at recital they could only comment on the way she had slouched, how shy she had seemed, or on how much better they had expected her to play, considering all the lessons she had taken. Loretta could do nothing right. The upshot of their meanness was to ruin her ability to freely make mistakes. She still made mistakes, since we all do, but she hated them and tried to hide them from herself and from everyone else. But she couldn't really hide them and ended up chastising herself and saying things like "Only a champion idiot like me could make these many mistakes." Finally she realized that she had to change her attitude, since her fear of mistakes was ruining her ability to write papers in her graduate psychology program. Because she felt that each paper had to be perfect, she couldn't start them. Then, at the last minute, she would grind something out, but what she turned out was never as good what she might have written if she had felt free to write multiple drafts. Desperate, she began to sleep think, choosing the following statement as her nighttime prompt: "I am so scared of mistakes." About the third or fourth night she had a dream about mud. It wasn't just any mud. It was the kind of mud you make when you mix too many pigments together. It was painter's mud. What she saw in the dream was a happy child obliviously mixing too many colors together, making a face at the mud she produced, and blithely starting over. The child in the dream just didn't care that she had wasted some paint. It simply wasn't a tragedy or an issue at all. No word like "mistake," "failure." "stupid," "wasteful," or "incompetent" even crossed the little girl's mind. She had simply made some mud and now needed to discard it. Loretta made the pledge to herself that she would learn to become like the girl and woman she might have been if she hadn't received so much disabling criticism. Her mantra became "mud means nothing." I hope you will try out the Sleep Thinking Program to help with your creative life. D. H. Lawrence explained that "sleep seems to hammer out for me the logical conclusions of my vague days." Art Spiegelman described how he handled problems while writing : "If I go to sleep laying out the day's problem to myself and let those be my last conscious thoughts, I'll more or less consistently wake up with a solution." When you get in the habit of sleep creating, your creative efforts will reach new heights. • • • Eric Maisel is the author of , , , , and many other books for creators. His latest book is . It is available at Maisel's two web sites, http://www.sleepthinking.com and http://ericmaisel.com or wherever books are sold. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Interpreting Your Dreams... Can They Predict the Future? By Shari Gerson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= You dream that it's a bright, sunny day and you're walking into a building that you've never seen before. Inside, you meet a friend who gives you a present. What do you think it means? Well, if you're one of the millions of people who believe that dreams predict the future, a bright, sunny day means that success will be coming your way. If the building is tall, changes in your lifestyle are coming, while a small building says to watch out: problems are about to enter into your life. The friend? Well, running into a friend means a jump-start in your social life. Receiving a gift tells you to be careful about who or what you are trusting in right now. Dreaming is one of the most personal and intimate experiences that you can have, and each dream is as unique as the person having them. Researchers say that although many people cannot remember their dreams, every person dreams as many as five to 10 times each night, possibly more. So if you're one of the many who cannot recollect your dreams, you are not alone. Try keeping a pad and pencil, or tape recorder next to your bed for a week. See if you can jot your memories down right after waking from your sleep. Our dreams are key in figuring out what is going on in our lives and how to deal with or fix the problems that may be happening around us. Or quite possibly, they are bringing you insights into your future! Interpreting dreams has fascinated the human race for centuries. Some cultures consulted shrines and oracles to tap into the meaning of their dreams. Others visited medicine men or soothsayers to find out their dreams' meanings. Are they merely reflections of what we go through each day, mirroring our thoughts, emotions, and anxieties? Or are they predictions of what is coming? Most of us have heard vivid stories over the years of people who have had prophetic dreams, about loved ones, friends, strangers, or world events, which have come true down to the last detail. While many may be hoaxes, you can't deny that there are many people out there who have had real premonitions of the future. It is both scary and fascinating. Who wouldn't love to be able to see into tomorrow and know what is coming and how to avoid danger? What are your dreams telling you? Will you come into an unexpected fortune? Will you meet a stranger and fall madly in love? Or will you be coming down with an illness? Here are some of the most common things we dream of, and what they are supposed to mean or predict about your future: Death: Dreaming of death can mean a few things. It can mean the beginning of a new chapter in your life, with the old falling away, and perhaps you are anxious about it. Or, If you talk to someone who is dead, it means that good news is coming. But if it happens to be the ghost of one of your parents, this says that you are exposed to danger and to be careful in forming partnerships with strangers. Someone dying means that a birth will take place, or there is a need to take a look at your life and slow it down some. You may be doing too much and it is time to let some things go or you will become resentful. Falling is a symbol of fear and you need to loosen up and relax. You're afraid of failure and you need to start enjoying your life more. You may be too cut off from people and you need affection and support. Fear: Feeling fear in a dream means that you will be able to figure out your problems and find what it takes to overcome them. It is a sign that your worries will soon be over. Fire: This says that a time of rebirth and renewal is near, but to be careful of some form of rejection that is coming. Be strong and try to deal with it maturely. If you dream that you set fire to something, you must learn to control your temper. It will cause problems for you if you don't. Going up stairs means that success is on the way, while going down stairs warns that you are too controversial and you need to tone it down. You are upsetting other people and will do yourself harm. Men: Happiness and good health is what is predicted when meeting a good-looking man. But emotional upset is coming if you meet an ugly one. Money: Finding some money says that you have been unhappy about something, but not to worry so much. Happiness is on the way. Nighttime means that delays are coming. If the night is star-filled, you are about to make an interesting discovery. Rain: If you are caught in a heavy rainstorm, you are about to come into some money. If you are just out and about in the rain, a relationship you are in will end soon. Screams: This one is opposite than what you think! If you are screaming in an angry way, what has been on your mind causing you worry will turn out okay. But if someone else is screaming, bad news is coming. Women: Dreaming of women means that insincerity is around you and to watch out. Seeing men and women together tells of feeling more secure and confident about things to come. Weapons mean that you need to postpone some decisions for a while, you may be making them too hastily. If you buy a weapon, be careful. You are being deceived and need to wake up to what is really happening around you. Whatever you have been dreaming about, one thing is for certain: Pay attention to your dreams. Not only are they telling you what is most on your mind, and issues that need confronting, but they may also be a way to take a peek into your future. Either way, know that your dreams are the key to unlocking the door to you life and can help you toward obtaining a better tomorrow. ******** =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dreams, postmodern theory and the Improverse: Selections from Postmodern Dreaming Richard Catlett Wilkerson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Note: I plan to publish here a variety of essays taken from a longer work in progress, Postmodern Dreaming. In this section, I look at the new values of postindustrial societies and how dreamwork can improve our chances of having a meaningful life in the midst of a world spinning so fast that speed itself becomes a celebrated value. "Virtualization is hominization." Pierre Levy The frontier of Cyberspace is the accelerated edge of much larger project that has been going on for sometime, the virtualization of culture. This means we spend less time in concrete reality and more time in constructed reality. Everywhere there is connection to the Net there is a rapid movement into this new world causing a paradigcybermatic shift. It is now clear we can capitalize this space, but it is not as clear how we can live in it. Cyberspace changes and mutates faster than our normal cultural means for understanding it. Old notions of identity, presence, national alliance and concrete reality dissolve in multiple cyber-identities, remote yet intimate interactions and virtual alliances. It is almost like we have learned how to collectively dream together. If this analogy of dream-space and virtual-space is useful, an investigation of work and play with dreams will also be useful in developing a productive virtual-work. Dreamwork is a loose collection of practices used by both clinical and non-clinical groups interested in exploring dreams. Some people become dreamworkers through recording and keeping a journal. Other dreamworkers use dreams for complex therapeutic and spiritual reasons. Some dreamworkers only "work" while they are in the dream state itself, such as with lucid dream practices where they are aware they are dreaming during the dream, and in imaginal, shamanic journeys during sleep. Others allow the dream imagery to lead them into personal and social transformations. In 1994 a dream sharing community formed online called Electric Dreams. The initial formation of Electric Dreams explored different ways the Internet could be used for dreamwork and dream sharing. The members were unhappy with the superficial conversations taking place on the open bulletin board format of the Usenet Newsgroup, alt.dreams, and began exploring alternatives. Since the Electric Dreams community developed during the rapid period of growth of the Internet in the 1990s, the struggles and conflicts of the community reflect many of the cultural concerns about becoming virtual, such as identity, alliance, nationalism, globalization, confidentiality and quality of life online. The similarities between dreamspace and Cyberspace are many. Neither exists in any particular space, but in virtual space mediated by special protocols, rules that allow for the unfolding of experiential immersion. While the protocols of dream-space unfold subjective immersion for the sleeping dreamer and the protocols of Cyberspace are more objective (or at least, have collective conventions), both create inhabitable worlds in which we feel, sense, suffer and interact. Dream space and virtual space both produce a complex environment populated by others whose existence and status are always in question and flux. Particular dreams may disappear upon awakening, and websites come and go and seem to disappear when we log off, but planes of consistency build enduring nomadic relations and themes across individual spaces. Those interested in dream-ecology and those interested in cyber-ecology are both concerned about how we live and interact in these mutant worlds and what it means. Another group interested in the issue of mutant worlds and our place it them is postmodern cultural theory. Postmodern thought shares with dreams and Cyberspace a playful irreverence with the powers that be, a deadly serious questioning of the regimes that pressure us and an interest in the strange twists in the logic and fabric of time and space. Postmodern theorists have produced a large body of literature addressing issues of living in Cyberspace, such as virtual presence, the reorganization of subjective identities and simulated reality. Unlike dreamwork and dream sharing, which generally focus on individuals and small groups, postmodern cultural theory has a social and political focus, providing concepts that allow the insights of personal dreamwork to be carried over into a collective dreamwork of life in Cyberspace, a virtual-work. S.P.E.E.D "The loss of Material Space leads to the government of nothing but time... The violence of speed has become both the location and the law, the world's destiny and its destination." Paul Virilio In the concrete material world there are limits on speed and dramatic limits on the speed of large objects. Still, cultures push to go faster. Part of this is the need expressed in military competition in tactics and strategies, part the need of capital competition in market economy and production. In the information society, information needs to move faster and faster, and its users do as well. Life itself becomes faster and faster. How fast can it go? Economic and nationalistic concerns will impose their own limits, but the speed needs of living in Cyberspace are not yet clear. What is clear is that speed has become a need. For the organic being, speed needs to be fast enough to re-create what are called real-time interactions. But this fantasy limit of real-time is based on old models of interaction. Basically they rely on the demands of an organic self for action and reaction to match his/her selection speed, perception speed, and apperception speed. Slight variances from this interactive speed and we become impatient at one end, nauseous at the other. Postmodern theorist Paul Virilio feels that the speed will increase to a point where we can no longer keep up and remain as we are. As we move towards light speed, space collapses. We will have to abandon our subjective identities and mutate into a new consciousness. In this scenario, technology will continue to take up residence in our bodies, externalizing our senses. Our sight, hearing and touch and even memory will all be metabolically turned inside out, giving birth to a speedy virtual being. In this scenario, the need for speed will be the basic code of culture. In a virtual world, space does not have to be conquered, it has already surrendered. The struggle will instead be for time. The discovery of Cyberspace is not like the discovery of America by Europeans who saw a vast expanse of space to colonize. Cyberspace only exists as it is created. It is not pre-made. The value of cyber-territory is only as valuable as its relations with its neighbors. If one has a website with a trillion pages, but unknown to others, it's as good as non-existent. As culture reaches terminal speed, the meaning and value of all other activities will be stripped and reoriented towards speed. Whether this spectacle of velocity ends in ruins or a new relationship with time depends on our own ability to develop a relationship with speed. During the global media frenzy surrounding the death of Princess Diana, a woman deeply affected by the event told me "I just can get any space to find my own feelings. I can't stop watching the TV and the latest tidbits and stories." Cassidy continues, " I see other people suffering around the world, but can't make time for myself to suffer, I have to see the next event on TV." On the Internet, alternative modes of sharing grief are emerging. One of these modes is dream sharing. Dream sharing refers to the same practices as dreamwork, but with a focus on the transactions in relationship. It often includes the exploration of meaning and value as in dreamwork, but emphasizes the actual sharing of the dream as the primary activity. People having dreams of Princess Diana exchanged these across the Net like gifts exchanged between family members at a wake. Dream: Diana Not Quite Dead by M. (970909) "I was very close to Diana and was helping wash blood off of her (into a large bath); I remember watching it swirl clockwise around and down the plug-hole while at the same time we were talking in detail about the irreversibility of what had happened, and the reality of the here and now; she found it hard to accept that she could not yet leave the place where we were, or that she was in fact dead; she was not overly distressed, more like puzzled, tired, and regretful but the main focus of the dream was on her healing (of soul and body) and on my offer (not in words, but simply as something that happened) to take on myself her woundedness. There was no particular point at which this happened, but suddenly I began to feel physically badly hurt, weak, and aching, as if I were recovering from a recent and devastatingly major operation. I looked down the front of my body, which was badly bruised from the upper chest area, and a huge, healing scar was running down my body. The scar was like a long clean scalpel cut - a thin line that was already closed up. I felt a kind of joy and wonderment at this, partly, I think, because (in a relieved fashion) I'd taken on the woundedness in a kind of recovery mode, without having endured the preliminary shock and horror of its cause. I recall that this process - helping Diana wash herself free of blood, talking through what was now real, and feeling wounded - was enacted over and again in different ways several times, until there was an acceptance by her of death, after which I was free to leave her in peace. I can't describe the kind of closeness this all involved; it wasn't what you'd call friendship, or sisterliness, or motherliness; it was (for want of better words) an indefinable sense of oneness, sorrow, patience, and compassion." M. reported that like many others, she had been drawn deeply and with powerful emotion into the tragedy of Diana's death. On the night she had the dream, she felt an overwhelming desire to be of some help to Diana. Unlike M.'s waking self, her dream self created an interactive environment in which she could spend time with Diana's death, time with her desire to be of some help. Poetics has a term called "impleaching" which mean poetically interweaving. As the poet Hölderlin says, "poetically man dwells." In this dwelling, this lingering and winding back and forth across the surfaces and textures of an image, meaning and value begin to emerge. Psychotherapist Sylvia Perera has referred to this process as "interlacing" and uses the image of complex interweaving of Celtic illuminated manuscripts. More currently, there has been a revival of the practice of labyrinth walking. Here individuals locate mazes on the floors of cathedrals, in courtyards and in gardens and mindfully walk though them. The point is not to speed through them to the end, but to create time and space for alterity, alternative experiences and universes, a similar process when we walk though a forest with a quiet mind. Psychotherapist Carl Jung once asked a Native American why they performed the sun ritual. He learned that without the ritual, the sun would not rise again and time would end. This is the responsibility of freedom through virtualization. We can use it to create or destroy time. Making time may not involve a complex ritual, but it does require something like a ritual. When Jesus came across a man working in the field on a sacred day, he simply said "If you know what you are doing, fine, but if not, you are really in trouble." In this sense, the dream sharing online becomes a digital sacrament that creates time and space. Recalling the dream creates time and space in waking life. Sharing the dream creates time and space for a whole group. The particular interpretive system is not so important as the ability of the system to keep the dream present long enough to create a rupture in normal time. In Aboriginal Dream Time, there is the notion of time outside of time. That is, it doesn't directly partake in the everyday swirl of media and commercial signs, but rather is aligned to a symbolic order outside of time, a sacred time. Here the project of speed is exposed as game whose terminal limits seek a field of digital ice without friction, a false freedom that pretends to connect everything to everything else and ends in leaving nothing but the icy surface of empty death. Although dreamwork is not the only way to create time and space, it does provide a useful set practices which address how to take control of the throttle and create time/space in a world moving at the speed of light. The irony that speed and media both created and killed the princess, and created and killed public suffering, is not a lesson we should miss. The vivisection by the mediascape can be mitigated by a digital dream time. - RCW *********************************************************** =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S April 2001 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats, pcoats@dreamtree.com. Visit Global Dreaming News online at http://www.dreamtree.com/ This Month's Features: NEWS Ø Dream Hotline Ø Mutual Healing Dream Circle Ø Register for ASD Dream Conference RESEARCH & REQUESTS > Ferret Dreams WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES Ø The Dream Clinic Ø Dreamland Must Be Here Ø Sleep Paralysis Web Ring DREAM CALENDAR for April 2001 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< N E W S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< >>> Dream Hotline The Thirteenth Annual National Dream Hotline(r) takes place Friday, April 27 through Sunday, April 29. From 6 pm CT Friday through midnight Sunday, people may call the School of Metaphysics around the clock to have dreams interpreted or to ask questions about dreams. The National phone number is 417-345-8411 and there are 15 regional numbers for this service also. The School of Metaphysics is a not-for-profit educational and service organization which has been researching and teaching dream interpretation for self awareness since 1973. The school's website is www.som.org and the dream website is www.dreamschool.org. >>> Mutual Dream Healing Circle Dreamshare members ( a moderated, egalitarian on-line group for exploring the life and meanings of the dream-world) have initiated a dream-healing concentration, to be held in the consciousness of participants on the night of the 21st of each month. Before going to sleep at night, please hold the thought, prayer, or concentration in your consciousness of bringing healing energy to those who have so requested. you may use whatever practices are important or helpful to you in effecting this healing state. there will be a list of names or circumstances of those who have specifically requested to be included in our thoughts and prayers. please observe the general decorum of distance healing work in many traditions and do not add anyone to the list without his or her express approval...you may wish to hold in your consciousness someone else you know who is in need of healing energy and send them that energy, but please do respect everyone's rights to self-determination and privacy. my feeling is that someone who has asked you for thoughts and prayers can be included here as well. feel free to contact Judith, c/o dreamshare-owner@yahoogroups.com if you would like to be included in the list or for more information. >>> Register Now for the Dream Conference The Association for the Study of Dreams conference will be held at UC Santa Cruz July 10-15, 2001. It is shaping up to be an exciting conference and everyone is encouraged to attend. If you would like to make a presentation at the conference be aware that this year's deadline for submissions is November 15. Information on how to submit is below. They already have Jean Shineda Bolen as a key note and will have Strephon Williams, Jeremy Taylor, Gayle Delaney, Kelly Bulkeley and many many other presenters! The conference should be great. Information and web links are listed below. There is also a toll free number to request information on the conference. 1 866 Dream12. REGISTER FOR THE JULY 10-15 2001 ASD CONFERENCE EARLY AND HELP ASD! Go to www.asdreams.org/2001 and register by credit card or download the registration form and send it by mail. Take part in an extensive Continuing Education or C.E. program (30+ CE Credits), revel in a great dream art show, and take advantage of extensive special offerings in all areas of dream work and dream studies. Special themes for this year's conference will include nightmares and transformation, dream and sleep disorders, dreams and the arts and film, regional dreamwork, and/ spirituality and dreaming plus much more! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< R E S E A R C H & R E Q U E S T S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< >>> Ferret Dreams I'm searching for ferret dreams. After finding a little ferret in the park, I discovered ferrets were showing up in my dreams all the time. My own ferret was even flying in a dream! Someone else with ferrets mentioned to me how her daughter told her that whenever she visited and played with the ferrets, she went home and dreamt of ferrets. I began to wonder if ferrets weren't little dreamweavers...weaving their way into our dreams.... Thus, please send any ferret dreams you may care to share. Also, please tell me if you have a ferret living in your home, or if you recently saw a ferret before having the dream. And what did the dream mean to you? Send to Sunday at sundayatdusk@webtv.net <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< W E B S I T E & O N L I N E U P D A T E S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>> Dreamland Must Be Here - New Lucid Dream Site http://www.dreamland.mustbehere.com This site was made to help people to enjoy dreams and lucid dreams, and features lots of information about dreams, lucid dreams, dreaming techniques, history of dreams, dream interpretations, dream symbols and scenery, how to control dreams, Freud and his dreams, dreams from old civilizations, yoga dreams, blind dreams, dreams and drugs, parapsychology of dreams, visitor's dreams, nightmares, how the brain produce dreams, dreams of kids, music and books on dreams, dream dictionary, dream links and more . >>>The Dream Clinic www.thedreamclinic.com Ancient Teachings for Everyday Life Would You Like To...have a greater self-awareness? Find a practical way of understanding what is happening in your life? Be able to use simple non-invasive healing methods for yourself and your family? This website offers you practical skills to achieve these goals through Dream Analysis, Astrology, and Vibrational Healing with Joan Hanger. Joan is an author, a freelance journalist, and a radio and television personality. She has established 'the dreamclinic' in Sydney, Australia. >>>Sleep Paralysis Web Ring http://nav.webring.yahoo.com/hub?ring=AdSP&list Does Recurrent Isolated Sleep Paralysis Involve More than Cognitive Neurosciences? Have you ever found yourself lying fully conscious or in a dream like state, unable to move or cry out, but able to see and hear ... or somehow sense the presence of unknown beings? This is awareness during sleep paralysis (otherwise known as "ASP"). The experience of awareness during sleep paralysis may be terrifying beyond belief. Some ASP experiencers fear they are suffocating or dying, due to the sensation of a crushing weight on them, usually in the chest region. Those who sense the presence of bedroom 'visitors' may fear that their paralysis is a prelude to sexual assualt or abduction by these intruders. Is an ASP episode a danger or an opportunity? Despite these fears, some individuals ASP. Why? Find out more through this web ring. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< D R E A M C A L E N D A R April 2001 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< April 1-30 Ongoing Dream Groups by telephone (from anywhere). Dr Ron Masa and Billie Ortiz practice their (JeremyTaylor-friendly) dreamwork. 1) TeleDream Group: A profound, intimate, affordable seminar every Mon eve 8-10 pm (EST). 2) Free intro teleclass each Thurs (3-4 pm EST). email: lamosca@earthlink.net or visit: www.UniversityofYourself.com. April 6-7 in Sunnyvale, CA Friday lecture (7:30-10) and Saturday experiential workshop (10-5pm) with Jeremy Taylor at Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Sunnyvale. Contact Nancy at 408/749-1594 or EWINGN@aol.com, to register or get more information. April 14 in Kensington, CA Saturday workshop with Jeremy Taylor at First Unitarian Church of Berkeley, One Lawson Rd, Kensington. Contact Martha at 510.528.3417. April 20-22 in Kellowna, B.C. Weekend workshop with Jeremy Taylor. Contact Marilyn at mraymond@ouc.bc.ca or call Kathy at 415.454.2793 Apr 21 in Saratoga, NY The Healing Power of the Dream Animals, retreat with Robert Moss. 10am-5pm. Tuition: $70. Please contact Stillpoint (518) 587-4967, stillpt423@aol.com April 27-29 in Dallas, TX Weekend workshop with Jeremy Taylor. Contact Kay Strickland at 214.352.9841 or visit the website at www.jeremytaylor.com. Apr 28-29, in Sisters, OR Ondinnonk: Honoring the Secret Wishes of the Soul. In the Huron language, ondinnonk means "a secret desire of the soul as expressed in a dream". A weekend workshop with Robert Moss. For more information, contact Kathy Nagel (541) 549-8922, knagel@bendcable.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ New Series begins with dream-flow@egroup.com Digest #1 09/29/2000 This issue includes volume #119 - volume #137 Hello and welcome to the DREAM SECTION of Electric Dreams. This section is edited by Richard Wilkerson and the DreamEditor, a software creation of Harry Bosma, author of the Dream interpretation and journaling software "Alchera". (homepage: http://mythwell.com) Please note that we print these dreams as they come to us and that means we do not correct the spelling. Some dreamworkers find these spelling mistakes a great window on the dream and dreamer. The Electric Dreams DREAM SECTION includes dreams and comments from the DREAM FLOW, a project to circulate dreams in Cyberspace. Many mail lists participate, including dream-flow@lists.best.com dreamstream@topical.com DreamsRus@onelist.com The Dream Sack http//www.deeplistening.org/ione Usenet groups (too many to name, search DREAM) If you would like to send in single dreams for the flow, you can leave them at http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple If you have a mail list or would like to contribute dreams and comments on a regular basis, you can subscribe to the dream-flow by sending an E-mail to TO: dream-flow-subscribe@egroups.com You may get a note back to verify the subscription. Simply hit the return or reply key and send the note back. An Archive of dream-flow is available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/dream-flow@egroups.com/ Pre-November 2000: http://www.mail-archive.com/dream-flow@lists.best.com/ Pre-November 1998 http://www.mail-archive.com/ed-core@lists.best.com/ Pre-April 1990 Use Electric Dreams Backissues http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-backissues ------------------------- BEGIN --------------------------- _________________________________ [dream-flow] Digest Number 119 ____________________________________________________________ There are 9 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. "Animated Characters" From: Anonymous 2. Vivid and Mad From: Anonymous 3. (unknown) From: A.me 4. seperation- From: Anonymous 5. My crush From: Anonymous 6. My roommate's dream From: A.me 7. crying From: Anonymous 8. Boy in Dreams From: Anonymous 9. weird love From: Anonymous ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:23:03 -0800 From: Anonymous Subject: "Animated Characters" Dream Title "Animated Characters"- Lonewoof Date of Dream recurring Dream My friend doesn't have access to a computer and asked me to submit this for her. She has been having 3-d animated characters appear in her otherwise normal dreams lately and is wondering what it could mean. She said it is usually an animal. One is similar to Disney's Goofy. They aren't scary, but are very startling and will appear in the corner of a normal looking room or scene. Anyone ever had this happen or any ideas on the meaning? Comments by Dreamer My friend has been keeping a dream journal for years and is usually very good at interpreting them, but this one has her stumped. ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:53:37 -0800 From: Anonymous Subject: Vivid and Mad Dream Title Vivid and Mad Date of Dream January 25 Dream I dreamed that I walked into my bedroom and my husband was having sex with another woman. I stood watching in shock. My heart broke and I was enraged at the same time. He looked at me and smiled. He acted as if he was going nothing wrong and made no efford to stop or give an excuse for what he was going. I couldn't breath I was so overwhelmed. Never did know who the woman was. I wake up crying and angry. Comments by Dreamer This is the third time Ii have have the same dream. My husband thinks I'm feeling insecure. He doesn't give me reason to feel insecure so why do I keep repeatedly having this dream? Permission Comments I would like to have my dream published. I think feed back would help. ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:55:12 -0500 From: A.me Subject: (unknown) ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:31:20 -0800 From: Anonymous Subject: seperation- Dream Title seperation-ailehs Date of Dream 2/22/011:00 a.m. Dream Tuesday night my boyfriend supposed to call me when he got off work. Well, I waited by the phone and never got a phone call. When he couldn't call me when he get home he usually call me the next day. Wednesday and Thursday I haven't heard from him. Thursday night a friend called me and he wanted to be more than friends. I didn't give a direct answer because I knew I already had a boyfriend. When I went to sleep Thursday night, I had a dream about my boyfriend and I having a conversation over the phone. And I asked him why he haven't been calling me and he reply was that he didn't want to wake me. And I told him that I finally filed my taxes and I told him the amount I was getting back. And I remember jumping on the subject about my friend and I repeatly asked him is it okay that I talk to my friend? And he never did answer. Then I was suddenly awaken by a cry from my baby. P.S. Please help me find the reason for this dream. Comments by Dreamer I hoped nothing happen to my boyfriend because it is 8:47 a.m. Friday and I still haven't heard from him. ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:54:29 -0800 From: Anonymous Subject: My crush Dream Title My crush Date of Dream 2/18-2/23 Dream I'm 16 and I just started this school where I barely like anyone. Except for this guy Neil. I'm getting to be better friends with him, and I like him a lot. For the last few weeks, he has been in every dream of mine. Once or twice I think we kissed. I want to know if this means anything? Comments by Dreamer I've also been having other dreams of guys I know that like me that try and touch me sexually. ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:07:06 -0500 From: A.me Subject: My roommate's dream This morning, my room mate seemed very upset by a dream she had last night. I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on it's meaning to ease her mind a little. She dreamt that she was working at Spencer's in the local mall. She heard her coworkers saying that they thought the back room could be dangerous because anybody could get back there, harm an employee and no one up front would even know about it. Then she had to go to the back and pick up boxes for shipment. There was a noise from behind her and she saw a man by the bathroom in the back. She asked what he was doing in the back and he told her he was looking for the bathroom and she told him that they don't normally allow customers back there so he should make it quick and get out then she went back to lifting boxes. She felt a sharp pain in the left side of her back and she turned around and saw he had stabbed her. She tried to run out of the back room and she pushed the door open (which she noted was odd in the dream because she knew you had to pull it open). All her friends that worked there stood and stared at her, finally asking what was wrong. She pointed behind her to the man still standing there holding the knife in her back, grinning. One of her friends said "we need to get her to a hospital quick!" and the man laughed nd replied "oh there's no point, she's gonna die either way.". She pushed the knife out of her back and tried to run with her friend to get to the hospital. They ran through the rearranged mall and another friend of hers in another store somehow knew what was going on and called her to come hide in the back of her shop from the man who was chasing her. She looked back and then all her friends were standing behind the man that stabbed her, staring. Any thoughts on this one????? ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ There are 5 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. kaybird From: Anonymous 2. Other wives and Dawn in Sun City From: Anonymous 3. Whipping From:Naomi 4. hell From: Anonymous 5. Re: hell From: Heratheta ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:15:11 -0800 From: Anonymous Subject: kaybird Dream Title kaybird Date of Dream 02/24/02, 11:13 Dream I am only 16 and I keep having the same dream. My dreams have always seemed to have something to do with my life but I can't figure this one out. My dream is that I am in my house with my mom, dad, brother, and my mom's best friend. We seem to be stuck in the house and different groups of people keeping coming to our yard in vans, and like four-wheelers and little vechiles. They are stealing stuff in our yard. The police have caught a few of them. Anyway I only know one of these groups whom attend my school. Last night's dream went a little farther. I was afraid that they were going to break in the house. Dad, my brother, and I were upstairs in the bedroom watching these people while mom and her best friend were downstairs. Dad assured me that they would not get in. I have always felt protected around my dad. I think that they started to break in though and I have never seen my dad so scared. I am not sure what this means but I have had this dream for ! ! the past four weeks and it didn't really hit me that I was having it until I woke up this morning. So if you could help me figure it out I would be apprecitative. Thank you. Comments by Dreamer Permission to Comment yes_share_comments Permission Comments I just want to know what it means. ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:17:28 -0800 From: Anonymous Subject: Other wives and Dawn in Sun City Dream Title Other wives and Dawn in Sun City Date of Dream 02/23/01 Six thirty a.m. Dream Dreamed about my husband having 9 wives, two of them in the vacinity, one blond, young with two children, boy and girl. The other with long brown hair who was alone. Confrontation with blond wife with an attitude. Washing clothes of an adult daughter who appeared pleased. My husband hung his head in shame when he admitted he had nine wife's. Comments by Dreamer I was in control of the people in my dream somehow and had an angry and hopeless feeling. ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:23:03 -0700 From:Naomi Subject: Whipping Title: Whipping Date: February 23, 2001 Dream: Last night I drempt that I was being beaten by a man whose face I was unable to see. This man, at one point sounded like my father, but only one time, after that I had no idea who he was. He whipped me 75 times while I was tied face down to my bed. He repeatedly told me that I had been bad and that he had to take care of the bad people. I eventually died from all the beatings, I remember dying. In reality I have done nothing bad or could even constitute as bad. This morning I talked with my room mate who said that all throughout the night I had been crying and thrashing about while I was sleeping. I also sleep face down everynight. I have had this dream once or twice before. Does anyone have any ideas on what this may mean? Permission to share comments: affirmative...yes ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ There are 7 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. dreams and working nights and sleeping days From: Lisa 2. Re: Whipping From: Lisa 3. the tony danza dream From: Anonymous 4. Re: Re: Whipping From:Naomi 5. THE WHITE WOODS From: Anonymous 6. Cheating w/ ex-boyfriend! From: Anonymous 7. Re: Cheating w/ ex-boyfriend! From: jenner_n ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:27:45 -0000 From: Lisa Subject: dreams and working nights and sleeping days I work night shift and sleep during the day. I am wondering if anyone else out there that might work nights as well, if you have noticed a difference in the way you dream? It seems as though I dream less during the daytime than when I sleep at night on my nights off - that is when I sleep on my nights off. Curious, Lisa ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:53:52 -0000 From: Lisa Subject: Re: Whipping I am supposing that there is no actual history of abuse and that this might somehow relate to that. With that in mind, the fact that you cannot see this person's face might indicate that there is someone with whom you are involved with that is not showing their true identity (maybe even you). Or maybe it has something to do with a part of a relationship that you are not willing to look at. The fact that the man sounds like your father might represent some type of authority figure and maybe you are struggling with a situation, emotionally that involves someone in authority over you, such as a boss. Then maybe it is not necessarily an authority individual but someone you consider to have influence over you. Whatever the case, it sounds like you have a situation that is "beating" you emotionally and the fact that you die in the dream makes me think the real life situation you could be facing is calling out for an end, maybe it is too emotionally draining, or maybe you are ready for it to end - a relationship maybe? Also, think back to the times you have had this dream in the past. What was going on during those times; are there similarities? I don't know, but just my thoughts and ideas. Let me know what you think. Lisa --- In dream-flow@y...,Naomi@h...> wrote: > Title: Whipping > Date: February 23, 2001 > Dream: Last night I drempt that I was being beaten by a man whose face > I was unable to see. This man, at one point sounded like my father, > but only one time, after that I had no idea who he was. He whipped me > 75 times while I was tied face down to my bed. He repeatedly told me > that I had been bad and that he had to take care of the bad people. I > eventually died from all the beatings, I remember dying. > > In reality I have done nothing bad or could even constitute as bad. > This morning I talked with my room mate who said that all throughout > the night I had been crying and thrashing about while I was sleeping. > I also sleep face down everynight. I have had this dream once or twice > before. > > Does anyone have any ideas on what this may mean? > Permission to share comments: affirmative...yes ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Ocean View From: Anonymous ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:13:25 -0800 From: Anonymous Subject: Ocean View Dream Title Ocean View by TnButterfly2001 Date of Dream 02-09-01 Dream I dreamed that I was going over water and all of a sudden I realized that I was flying over the water.I was scared at first because I could feel the breeze in my face and it took my breath for a minute and I could feel the wind in my hair and on my gown.Then I wasnt scared at all and looked down at the water and could see fish down in the water.Then it seemed like the fish were changing and I was telling someone(I dont know who)what they were.I saw a whale.A stingray.A sea turtle.A tarpin.And jelly fish.I could feel the sun on my face and then the dream was over and I woke up.THe whale was black and white.The turtle was green.The tarpin was a shiny grayish brown,And the stingray was gray.Anyone know what this might mean? ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ There are 7 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. hippiefeet From: Anonymous 2. NOSE BLEED From: Anonymous 3. Re: hippiefeet From: Heratheta 4. Re: NOSE BLEED From: Heratheta 5. NOOOOOOO!!! From: Anonymous 6. Fire and desire?! From: Anonymous 7. Re: hippiefeet From: stacey rainey Date of Dream > Dream Someone's mother--Kim's or > Jessica's--was visiting > the house and had two weddings to attend. She stood > at the foot of the > stairs and showed several people one of the cute > skimpy wedding outfits she > was planning to wear. I was unable to complete > sentences in this dream and > said, "I like that, it's better than all the > frou-frou stuff that people--" > and got no reaction so went upstairs to my room but > there she was behind me > in a different outfit. She wore a long skirt and > was spilling water > everywhere, she was a mess, and then she lifted her > skirt slightly and > said, "And then there's this--"--menstrual blood > dripping down her leg. I > had her sit down on an old pink sofa by the closet > and mirror; my sack was > on the couch and I said "Here, smoke some weed." > Which she did. > Comments by Dreamer Kim and jessica live at my > house. I have no idea > what the menstrual blood could mean! I'm a 23 > year-old chick. > > ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ There are 5 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Slow dancing with Mr. Invisible From: jenner_n 2. Re: hippiefeet From: jenner_n 3. Re: NOOOOOOO!!! From: jenner_n 4. (no subject) From: Aphrodite00003 5. Re: Re: hippiefeet From: "Hilary Barrett" peace had lain to the right of the mother if liked had been avoided ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:05:26 -0000 From: jenner_n Subject: Re: NOOOOOOO!!! people usually represent qualities, like Hulk Hogan would represent strong. actions are metaphors. Hope this helps --- In dream-flow@y..., "Wilkerson, Richard" wrote: > Dream Title NOOOOOOO!!! by anonymous > Date of Dream don't remember > Dream I had a dream about one of my celebrity crushes > dying of cancer. Then a few weeks later I dreamed that he fell off a boat > and drowned. Does this mean that he is going to die? This is making me > really upset!!! ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:17:00 EST From: Aphrodite00003 Subject: (no subject) i would like to unsubscribe from this group [This message contained attachments] ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:54:01 -0000 From: "Hilary Barrett" peace had lain to the right of the nose if weird had been avoided ??? ?? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: jenner_n@yahoo.com To: dream-flow@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: [dream-flow] Re: hippiefeet Please, please explain what this means! --- In dream-flow@y..., Heratheta@a... wrote: > peace had lain to the right of the mother if liked had been avoided Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dream-flow-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [This message contained attachments] ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ There are 2 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. 1 From: Mark Hadley From this I instantly deduce that Luke has won a big prize, part of which includes an expensive camera, and these envelopes will entitle him to free film processing. (So now I don't know whether Leo was trying to steal the prize, or surprise Luke with it. But as he'd gone by this point, I guess it doesn't really matter.) Another of the papers was a handwritten invoice detailing everything that Luke had won. It may have totalled £11,100 but I can't be sure 'cos of the way numbers etc. keep changing in dreams. Luke even commented that I'd read out the wrong amount when I gave it to him. The final dropped item was a wallet of developed photos which I seemed to remember taking myself, possibly in France or somewhere else abroad. I wasn't surprised to see them here, as samples of the sort of pictures it would be possible for Luke to take. I showed them to him -- he was still sitting on the mantelpiece -- and we were especially interested in a photo of a red-and-cream-coloured tram which had been derailed in some sort of accident and now seemed to be cutely sitting up and begging. The story was about to begin a flashback to the incident of the tram, when... * * * I woke up because two of my cats had crawled under the bedclothes with me and were fighting! Still at least it allowed me to write the dream down while it was still fresh in my mind. What's annoying is that I knew the dream *wasn't* real at the time. Luke even drew my attention to the fact the writing on the invoice had changed, failing the most basic reality test. But I *still* couldn't see that this meant it was a dream instead of a story. (If pressed, I'd probably have said that it changed because the author of this chapter couldn't make up his mind what it was supposed to say, so he kept editing the text -- when he stops, the invoice will settle down and stop changing.) (*sighs*) If only I knew how to make the simple step from this semi-lucidity into a full lucid dream... Pi. -- "Imagine being given a large purple cloud that hops around my dreams." -- MegaHal -- SHADoWS http://www.shadws.co.uk * Sherlock Holmes And Doctor Who Site * ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. (no subject) From: Aphrodite00003 ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:31:21 EST From: Aphrodite00003 Subject: (no subject) Alright I guess I won't unsubscribe. Thanks Lauren [This message contained attachments] ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ There are 10 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. jenn's use of avoiding dreams From: Heratheta 2. lost at the mall From: Anonymous 3. Peggy Sue From: Anonymous 4. Vampire Lover From: Anonymous 5. Premenstrual blood From: Anonymous 6. black tree From: Anonymous 7. Dream Lover From: Anonymous 8. question From: Aphrodite00003 9. Re: question From:Naomi 10. visit from a friend that committed suicide From: Anonymous ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:09:53 EST From: Heratheta Subject: jenn's use of avoiding dreams recently i received an e-mail regarding the avoidance of a dreams characteristic defined in the dream by the dreamer per say the adjective describing the central part of the dream which i believe should also be avoided geographically either to the right or left ( dna favors right although i wonder about left handed people still a little ao i include the left with vertical included as a 3 dimensional option since it can also be right or left). i write this to dramflow because when i received the above e-mail the seattle earthquake had disrupted a sooner and more direct reply. best wishes a. ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:30:56 -0800 From: Anonymous Subject: lost at the mall Dream Title lost at the mall Date of Dream 03-01-01 Dream i dreamt of being lost at a mall with a friend and hearing gospel music playing in background ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:29:29 -0800 From: Anonymous Subject: Peggy Sue Dream Title Peggy Sue Date of Dream off and on nightly after midnight Dream I am having dreams about different family and friends, but they are so bad that I wake up in such a down/blue mood. Sometimes I can't remember all about the dreams, just bits and pieces, but enough to know who was there. I was just wondering what they mean... ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:32:06 -0800 From: Anonymous Subject: Vampire Lover Dream Title Vampire Lover by Ryoko Date of Dream 3-03-01 Dream I was walking home for my job as being a barmaid.I was walking in a dark forest, and I got attacked by wolves. Before they could start attacking. I was saved by a mysterious stranger. I blacked out. The next thing I know, I am in a very fancy master bedroom. I was clad in a white lace night gown. A man who looked like my boyfriend appeared. He had told me how I was nearly attacked and that he had saved me. He then begin to smile strangley at me. I felt as though I was falling into a trance. Then he bit into my neck. Then I woke up. Comments by Dreamer It was frightening and romantic at the same time. ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:29:53 -0800 From: Anonymous Subject: Premenstrual blood Dream Title Premenstrual blood by Ice Queen Date of Dream 03/03/01 Dream I was on a small island with some friends, i know that they were there,but i did not see them, but i did have contact with one of them, but i do not remember who they were. My uncle's wife was there whom i hate with every once of my being. Anyway i got my period and was shocked because it came again so soon. and i was really bleeding, no pain, just a lot of blood. But we were going to swim or something, and i really didn't want to use a pad, but i didn't have a tampon, so i asked my hated aunt, and she gave me this futuristic looking tampon, that was gel instead of cotton, and i didn't know how to work it, so i pused out the gel , then i talked to a friend, then went to the supermarket to get what i usually use. Somewhere in the dream, my aunt or somebody gave me a tampon that was twice the size of a normal tampon, but i got it exchanged for a standard sized one. ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:30:17 -0800 From: Anonymous Subject: black tree Dream Title black tree llama Date of Dream Thursday, March 1, 2001 3 AM Dream I was driving a car in a terrible rainstorm, in the dark, with all my children in the car. Suddenly, I saw a very large black tree which had fallen across the road. It looked like there was enough room for us to drive underneath and continue on, but I felt it would fall any minute, so I pressed hard on the gas to get though quickly. I knew I was taking a gamble, but felt there was no other